Building a Barbarian

G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

I've been playing Diablo II as a SP for the past month, using a
Barbarian built by luck and by chance. I've been reading up on the
various builds and have got myself very confused. So far I have come
across references to the following builds:
Concentrate Barbarian
Frenzy Barbarian
Immortal King Barbarian
Now as a relative noob at this game what I want to do is to build a
character that will give me a good chance of playing through to all of
the levels.
So I gues my questions are:
1. It the barbarian a good choice of character for my requirements?
2. If the answer is no, what would be a good character for a noob?
3. If the answer is yes, that what build should I go for?
I find this game very absorbing, but very difficult to come to terms
with. Thanks.

-
Peter James
Remove AT to reply

P F James
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

Peter James wrote:
> I've been playing Diablo II as a SP for the past month, using a
> Barbarian built by luck and by chance. I've been reading up on the
> various builds and have got myself very confused. So far I have come
> across references to the following builds:
> Concentrate Barbarian
> Frenzy Barbarian

These two are simply named after the primary attacks they use, which in 1.10
are probably the only ones suited for such. Concentrate barbarians probably
are better for a relative beginner, since you can use a shield, and probably
will want to.

Frenzy barbs use Frenzy as the primary attack and cannot use a shield
because of the nature of the attack. Many of us, including me, thought for
a time that 1.10 had pretty much killed off using Frenzy, but this isn't the
case--it simply took a bit of a different playstyle than what we'd become
used to, and probably is better suited for somebody with quite a bit of barb
playing experience.

> Immortal King Barbarian

This is simply a barb who uses the Immortal King (IK) set. I find the use
of the term "build" somewhat laughable, since the only "build" really needed
is to make sure you can meet the requirements to wear the set. Once it's
equipped it puts a barb in about the closest thing to god mode there is in
this game without cheating, or using some of the even more overpowered
runeworded items available. Of course, this is for 1.10--before this, the
complete set wasn't even considered that desirable.

All builds will use Berserk and Leap Attack, although you probably won't
want or need more than a single point in each. Some also use Whirlwind as a
secondary attack, which up until 1.10 was used by many as a primary. 1.10
nerfed it a bit, but mostly added hordes of mana burners in NM and Hell
which makes using it sort of an iffy proposition most of the time. It's
still very good in selected instances though--and if you know you're going
to have some very good gear to grow into.

> Now as a relative noob at this game what I want to do is to build a
> character that will give me a good chance of playing through to all of
> the levels.
> So I gues my questions are:
> 1. It the barbarian a good choice of character for my requirements?

Welllll, just exactly what *are* your requirements? I don't see that you've
mentioned any in this post anywhere. :)

> 2. If the answer is no, what would be a good character for a noob?

A lot of people don't like the "in your face" playstyle. I do, and I think
a Concentrate barb's fine for a noob, but only if you don't mind the
relatively slow killing speed. That's probably the main reason a lot of
people don't like barbs. Only non-elemental druids kill slower, as a rule.

Lots of folks like to start out with sorcs--they kill fast and aren't as
equipment dependent as any of the melee types. Necs are a good choice if
you're a management type. :)

> 3. If the answer is yes, that what build should I go for?

A Concentrate barb is probably easiest for a beginner, but slow. In
addition to what I mentioned earlier, all barbs will want to max out the
Battle Orders skill, and at least one point in a few others like Taunt and
Howl. You'll also want to max a weapon skill but don't go for that one
early on. At least 7-8 points or so in Natural Resists are also a must.

Don't put points in energy at all. None.

Only put enough points in Dexterity to use your equipment, at least for a
long time. This is mostly true for Strength, too, but you can fudge a
little extra here from time to time.

Most of the "extra" points need to go into Vitality, at least until you get
your life in the 2800 range or so with maxed Battle Orders. Some like even
more than that, but I played several barbs to hardcore Guardian with about
that much and never had any real problems--at least none where a couple
hundred or so more life points give or take would have made much difference.
:)

> I find this game very absorbing, but very difficult to come to terms
> with. Thanks.
>

That's been true of most of us here to some extent at one time or another.
:)

Good luck and have fun!

--
chainbreaker
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 08:35:04 -0500, "chainbreaker" <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:


>snipped
>> I find this game very absorbing, but very difficult to come to terms
>> with. Thanks.
>>
>
>That's been true of most of us here to some extent at one time or another.
>:)
>
>Good luck and have fun!
Many thanks for the reply. Lots and lots to think about. I am very
grateful. Cheers!
-
Peter James
Remove AT to reply

P F James
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

"Peter James" <pfjamesAT@clara.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:afgpv0p4rjekgc4a42stjovc54h8t7irsr@4ax.com...
> I've been playing Diablo II as a SP for the past month, using a
> Barbarian built by luck and by chance. I've been reading up on the
> various builds and have got myself very confused. So far I have come
> across references to the following builds:
> Concentrate Barbarian
> Frenzy Barbarian
> Immortal King Barbarian
> Now as a relative noob at this game what I want to do is to build a
> character that will give me a good chance of playing through to all of
> the levels.
> So I gues my questions are:
> 1. It the barbarian a good choice of character for my requirements?
> 2. If the answer is no, what would be a good character for a noob?
> 3. If the answer is yes, that what build should I go for?
> I find this game very absorbing, but very difficult to come to terms
> with. Thanks.
>
> -
> Peter James
> Remove AT to reply
>
> P F James

To 1) Hard to say. What are your requirements ??
Besides being a noob?
Playing a melee char gets diffilcult in act5 NM
and in hell diff., if your equipment isn't
"state of the art".
So for a "relative noob" a sorc, necro, amazon or
a paladin might be easier.
Your barbarians are listed in order of difficulty.
Concentrate barb is safest, Frenzy tricky
and IK Barb needs twinked stuff.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

chainbreaker wrote:

> All builds will use Berserk and Leap Attack, although you probably won't
> want or need more than a single point in each. Some also use Whirlwind as a
> secondary attack, which up until 1.10 was used by many as a primary. 1.10
> nerfed it a bit, but mostly added hordes of mana burners in NM and Hell
> which makes using it sort of an iffy proposition most of the time. It's
> still very good in selected instances though--and if you know you're going
> to have some very good gear to grow into.

With an IK barb, WW is actually one of the better attacks. with max
WW,BO,Shout,MaceMast, I only die in SC of lag bursts, and mana burners
are doable with 1 pt wonders of Concentrate or Berserk.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

Franklin Bratcher wrote:
> chainbreaker wrote:
>
>> All builds will use Berserk and Leap Attack, although you probably
>> won't want or need more than a single point in each. Some also use
>> Whirlwind as a secondary attack, which up until 1.10 was used by
>> many as a primary. 1.10 nerfed it a bit, but mostly added hordes of
>> mana burners in NM and Hell which makes using it sort of an iffy
>> proposition most of the time. It's still very good in selected
>> instances though--and if you know you're going to have some very
>> good gear to grow into.
>
> With an IK barb, WW is actually one of the better attacks. with max
> WW,BO,Shout,MaceMast, I only die in SC of lag bursts, and mana burners
> are doable with 1 pt wonders of Concentrate or Berserk.


Well, as I thought I made clear, it doesn't really make a hill of beans
difference *what* you do with an IK barb, since there's not much out there
going to hurt him too badly except for maybe IM unless somebody's playing
him in a silly fashion.

And for anybody planning a whirlybarb in 1.10, it's a good idea to have his
endgame equipment already in place before he starts building, IMO. :)

--
chainbreaker

If you need to email, then chainbreaker (naturally) at comcast dot
net--that's "net" not "com"--should do it.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:07:12 GMT, "Ralf Baumhoefer"
<fcbayern_owp@yahoo.com> wrote:

>snipped
>To 1) Hard to say. What are your requirements ??
>Besides being a noob?
I suppose as a noob getting as far as possible into the game without
getting killed every five minutes.
>Playing a melee char gets diffilcult in act5 NM
>and in hell diff., if your equipment isn't
>"state of the art".
>So for a "relative noob" a sorc, necro, amazon or
>a paladin might be easier.
>Your barbarians are listed in order of difficulty.
>Concentrate barb is safest, Frenzy tricky
>and IK Barb needs twinked stuff.
Thanks.
-
Peter James
Remove AT to reply

P F James
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 07:33:34 -0500, chainbreaker wrote:

> Franklin Bratcher wrote:
>> chainbreaker wrote:
>>
>>> All builds will use Berserk and Leap Attack, although you probably
>>> won't want or need more than a single point in each. Some also use
>>> Whirlwind as a secondary attack, which up until 1.10 was used by
>>> many as a primary. 1.10 nerfed it a bit, but mostly added hordes of
>>> mana burners in NM and Hell which makes using it sort of an iffy
>>> proposition most of the time. It's still very good in selected
>>> instances though--and if you know you're going to have some very
>>> good gear to grow into.
>>
>> With an IK barb, WW is actually one of the better attacks. with max
>> WW,BO,Shout,MaceMast, I only die in SC of lag bursts, and mana burners
>> are doable with 1 pt wonders of Concentrate or Berserk.
>
>
> Well, as I thought I made clear, it doesn't really make a hill of beans
> difference *what* you do with an IK barb, since there's not much out there
> going to hurt him too badly except for maybe IM unless somebody's playing
> him in a silly fashion.
>

So you call my playing style silly :)
The only thing that ever hurt my concentrate IK barb was in wsk 3 where i
just charged in to a boss pack of Oblivion Knights as usually, my only
mistake was not notice the boss pack of extra fast Wraith's who ate all my
mana :(
He died as level 87 and got reborn and is now level 89 :)

--
Sonni
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: alt.games.diablo2 (More info?)

Sonni Skammelsen wrote:
>> Well, as I thought I made clear, it doesn't really make a hill of
>> beans difference *what* you do with an IK barb, since there's not
>> much out there going to hurt him too badly except for maybe IM
>> unless somebody's playing him in a silly fashion.
>>
>
> So you call my playing style silly :)

Uh, if the shoe fits? :)

> The only thing that ever hurt my concentrate IK barb was in wsk 3
> where i just charged in to a boss pack of Oblivion Knights as
> usually, my only mistake was not notice the boss pack of extra fast
> Wraith's who ate all my mana :(

Well, "silly" is definitely *one* term that comes to mind for doing
something like this. :)

> He died as level 87 and got reborn and is now level 89 :)

That indicates you learned *something*, at least. :D

--
chainbreaker

If you need to email, then chainbreaker (naturally) at comcast dot
net--that's "net" not "com"--should do it.
 

Similar threads


ASK THE COMMUNITY

TRENDING THREADS