[SOLVED] Building a new PC after long hiatus. Need advice.

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Hey there,

my first post here. I have been a longtime pc player but ever since 2015ish I switched to consoles due to lack of time. Now I'm trying to hop back in and try to build my 3rd ever PC from scratch. The q&a section has a very nice pre designed questionaire to copy-paste for these situations, so I shall use those.

Approximate Purchase Date: Ideally I'd like to finish my (online) ordering of PC parts this weekend.

Budget Range: Only talking about the pc itself, no monitor etc pp. I have a range for a budget gaming pc at around 400-600€
System Usage from Most to Least Important: PCs sole purpose is gaming and nothing else.

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: I have a very old 1 TB HDD to use. There is also a very old tower of mine from 2012, but it is near unusable.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: German Online Shops such as Mindfactory.de and Cyberport.de etc pp.

Location: Germany

Parts Preferences: No Intel parts please. Usually AMD CPU & GPU but this time Nvidia GPU can enter my house, too.

Overclocking:
Maybe, tendency is no though.

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: My current monitor is a brand new 4k, 60 hz, Freesync (40-60fps) Asus model. It was bought for my Xbox One X, so acts pretty much as a console monitor. Nontheless, I'd like to use it for my pc, too but of course native 4k with that budget is not possible. I thought I may get a strong enough GPU to (sometimes) play on 1440p @ 60FPS (capped) on said monitor. For that, my main focus is a strong GPU primarily.

Additional Comments: No bling bling pc, nothing fancy looking. No issues with loud sound either. It should just do the job in the most (cost)efficient way possible. Currently games I wanna play are somewhat older (Planetside 2 & Guild Wars 2, Warhammer 40k Eternal Crusade, Space Hulk Deathwing) later on I may switch to more "ressource demanding" games. Important note: if a game is released on the Xbox One X, I most probably will play it on said console instead of the pc. So that leaves me with the simple solution: I want to play pc gems, gems that have not been released on consoles, due to technical difficulties, or simply by choice. (Post Scriptum, Hell Let Loose, Rising Storm 2, Valorant etc)


Here some CPU/GPU combinations I searched up:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600x or AMD Ryzen 3 3100 ~100€
GPU: GTX 1660 Super 6gb or RTX 2060 OC 6gb or RX 5600XT 8gb ~200-320€
MB: Some cheap B550 or B450 boards ~50-70€
Ram: 2x8gb DDR4 3200 (I think from Black Viper 4) ~50-60€
Disc Drive: 240gb ssd plus my old 1tb hdd ~20€
Power: 400-450w be quiet ~40-50€

My general idea is to focus on my gpu first and buy a somewhat decent mid-to-high tier gpu by reducing the rest of the costs to a minimum. Later on I plan to upgrade CPU when budget is bigger.

No idea if this will work but hopefully you guys and gals can help me.

Thanks in advance!
 
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This should be good...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | €127.99 @ Mindfactory
Motherboard | MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard | €71.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory | Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory | €53.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage | Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €21.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card | Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB Phoenix OC Video Card | €232.90 @ Alternate
Case | SHARKOON VG5 ATX Mid Tower Case | €32.36 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply | Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | €69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | €610.04
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-20 16:46 CET+0100 |
 
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Hey there,

my first post here. I have been a longtime pc player but ever since 2015ish I switched to consoles due to lack of time. Now I'm trying to hop back in and try to build my 3rd ever PC from scratch. The q&a section has a very nice pre designed questionaire to copy-paste for these situations, so I shall use those.

Approximate Purchase Date: Ideally I'd like to finish my (online) ordering of PC parts this weekend.

Budget Range: Only talking about the pc itself, no monitor etc pp. I have a range for a budget gaming pc at around 400-600€
System Usage from Most to Least Important: PCs sole purpose is gaming and nothing else.

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: I have a very old 1 TB HDD to use. There is also a very old tower of mine from 2012, but it is near unusable.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: German Online Shops such as Mindfactory.de and Cyberport.de etc pp.

Location: Germany

Parts Preferences: No Intel parts please. Usually AMD CPU & GPU but this time Nvidia GPU can enter my house, too.

Overclocking:
Maybe, tendency is no though.

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: My current monitor is a brand new 4k, 60 hz, Freesync (40-60fps) Asus model. It was bought for my Xbox One X, so acts pretty much as a console monitor. Nontheless, I'd like to use it for my pc, too but of course native 4k with that budget is not possible. I thought I may get a strong enough GPU to (sometimes) play on 1440p @ 60FPS (capped) on said monitor. For that, my main focus is a strong GPU primarily.

Additional Comments: No bling-bling pc, nothing fancy looking. No issues with loud sound either. It should just do the job in the most (cost)efficient way possible. Currently games I wanna play are somewhat older (Planetside 2 & Guild Wars 2, Warhammer 40k Eternal Crusade, Space Hulk Deathwing) later on I may switch to more "ressource demanding" games. Important note: if a game is released on the Xbox One X, I most probably will play it on said console instead of the pc. So that leaves me with the simple solution: I want to play pc gems, gems that have not been released on consoles, due to technical difficulties, or simply by choice. (Post Scriptum, Hell Let Loose, Rising Storm 2, Valorant etc)


Here some CPU/GPU combinations I searched up:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600x or AMD Ryzen 3 3100 ~100€
GPU: GTX 1660 Super 6gb or RTX 2060 OC 6gb or RX 5600XT 8gb ~200-320€
MB: Some cheap B550 or B450 boards ~50-70€
Ram: 2x8gb DDR4 3200 (I think from Black Viper 4) ~50-60€
Disc Drive: 240gb ssd plus my old 1tb hdd ~20€
Power: 400-450w be quiet ~40-50€

My general idea is to focus on my gpu first and buy a somewhat decent mid-to-high tier gpu by reducing the rest of the costs to a minimum. Later on I plan to upgrade CPU when budget is bigger.

No idea if this will work but hopefully you guys and gals can help me.

Thanks in advance!
Hello,
Firstly, I appreciate this well-aligned post.

Now, Understanding your setup combination, you're heading in the right way. Starting with your CPU/MB, I would ask to go with an X570 or B55 series boards as this will allow you to eligible for the latest Ryzen 5000 processor with simple BIOS update. As for your processor, try to look for a cheap 6core 12thread chips which will help you to play well in many current & next-gen. AAA titles.

GPU -These video cards are meant for 1080p and 1440p gaming, but I can count 4K as playable.

Power supply - Invest more on a high-quality unit which will ensure stability and endurance.
 
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If you are just gaming, you should be fine with the 2600x. Its still plenty of cores and threads. 2700x might give you a bit more in certain games, but you have to expand the budget then.
I'm, probably against my own good, tentatively leaning towards the Ryzen 7 2700X. It is slightly more expensive, but manageable.
How does this one look:

Cpu: Ryzen 7 2700X
Gpu: GTX 1660 Super 6gb (not sure though. For 30 bucks more I can go with the 5600xt Sapphire Pulse)
Ram: (2x8GB) Patriot Viper 4 Blackout DIMM Kit DDR4-3200
MB(unsure): ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 AMD B450 So.AM4 or MSI B450 A Pro Max
@ben001 suggests a B55 MB. Anything special, ideally affordable under the 600€ budget?
Storage: 240gb Kingston 2.5" SSD
PSU: here I'd like to go with a be quiet model, maybe 400-450w be quiet system power 9 non modular.(?)
Case: Inter Tech B48 Midi Tower


Thx for any help in advance
 
I'm, probably against my own good, tentatively leaning towards the Ryzen 7 2700X. It is slightly more expensive, but manageable.
How does this one look:

Cpu: Ryzen 7 2700X
Gpu: GTX 1660 Super 6gb (not sure though. For 30 bucks more I can go with the 5600xt Sapphire Pulse)
Ram: (2x8GB) Patriot Viper 4 Blackout DIMM Kit DDR4-3200
MB(unsure): ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 AMD B450 So.AM4 or MSI B450 A Pro Max
@ben001 suggests a B55 MB. Anything special, ideally affordable under the 600€ budget?
Storage: 240gb Kingston 2.5" SSD
PSU: here I'd like to go with a be quiet model, maybe 400-450w be quiet system power 9 non modular.(?)
Case: Inter Tech B48 Midi Tower


Thx for any help in advance
CPU is fine if you can afford it.
GPU, either is fine.
RAM, not sure about your affinity towards that Viper, but if they are cheaper, then you can grab em.
MB, I would go with either one of the MSI MAX series boards or a B550 due to better features and upgrade path.
PSU, that beQuiet is a mediocre unit. Should not cheap out on PSU.
 
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CPU is fine if you can afford it.
GPU, either is fine.
RAM, not sure about your affinity towards that Viper, but if they are cheaper, then you can grab em.
MB, I would go with either one of the MSI MAX series boards or a B550 due to better features and upgrade path.
PSU, that beQuiet is a mediocre unit. Should not cheap out on PSU.
Mate may I ask how an Intel alternative would look like? Currently over here in Germany there are interesting Intel sales. Take for instance the i3 10100F. It goes for around 70-80 bucks whereas the Ryzen 3s and 5s have increased in price due to higher demand.
How would a rig with an I3 10100F look like? This way, I would have a decent amount of money to focus my ressources on a much stronger GPU like the RTX 2060 and would upgrade my CPU lafer on.
 
Mate may I ask how an Intel alternative would look like? Currently over here in Germany there are interesting Intel sales. Take for instance the i3 10100F. It goes for around 70-80 bucks whereas the Ryzen 3s and 5s have increased in price due to higher demand.
How would a rig with an I3 10100F look like? This way, I would have a decent amount of money to focus my ressources on a much stronger GPU like the RTX 2060 and would upgrade my CPU lafer on.
There you go...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i3-10100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor | €93.48 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard | Gigabyte H410M H Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | €55.90 @ Alternate
Memory | Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory | €52.70 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage | Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €21.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card | €299.00 @ Alternate
Case | Antec NX100 ATX Mid Tower Case | €38.11 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply | Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | €69.90 @ Alternate
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | €630.09
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-24 17:08 CET+0100 |
 
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There you go...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i3-10100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor | €93.48 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard | Gigabyte H410M H Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | €55.90 @ Alternate
Memory | Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory | €52.70 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage | Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €21.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card | €299.00 @ Alternate
Case | Antec NX100 ATX Mid Tower Case | €38.11 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply | Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | €69.90 @ Alternate
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | €630.09
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-24 17:08 CET+0100 |
My man, you are fire 🔥
On a personal note, would you suggest i3 10100f for gaming vs Ryzen 3 3100?
 
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Wow, your intel is soooo helpful. It is insane. @Hellfire13 for president.

I think slowly but surely I'm heading towards finishing line. After watching all the benchmarks I'm leaning towards this following final build:

Ryzen 5 3500X -145€
Saphire Pulse 5600XT 6gb -290€
16gb ddr 4 ram 3200 (55-60€)
Gigabyte B550M Board (80€)
240gb ssd (25€)

550w PSU (needed)
PC case (needed)

Is there any way I can save some money on parts I'm unaware of maybe such as the case, psu or otherwise and push the overall price down to come closer to 650ish € or even lower?
 
Wow, your intel is soooo helpful. It is insane. @Hellfire13 for president.

I think slowly but surely I'm heading towards finishing line. After watching all the benchmarks I'm leaning towards this following final build:

Ryzen 5 3500X -145€
Saphire Pulse 5600XT 6gb -290€
16gb ddr 4 ram 3200 (55-60€)
Gigabyte B550M Board (80€)
240gb ssd (25€)

550w PSU (needed)
PC case (needed)

Is there any way I can save some money on parts I'm unaware of maybe such as the case, psu or otherwise and push the overall price down to come closer to 650ish € or even lower?
The 2060 is a much better card than the 5600XT.
 
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The 2060 is a much better card than the 5600XT.
It is out of stock on most shops including alternate.de. When they have it, it is usually 320-340€. The 5600xt Pulse is cheaper and has a very new bios version that boosts the fps to rtx 2060 levels.
The regular 5600xt is really worse then the rtx 2060, the Sapphire Pulse one aside. I shall look out for both.
Is there any way to save money when I want to stay with Ryzen 5 3500x+ 5600xt Pulse/RTX 2060 + B550M Board?
 

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