Question Building a new PC for 900 dollars max

[ilyam1]

Hey everyone,

i have posted this question but it was written bad.
i have an old PC which i would like to replace with a new one because i might need it for work and wanted to know what are my options. for now it works fine and runs the games at 1080x1920 well but sometimes i have blue screens.
my budget is around 900 dollars including the monitor if possible.
it's been a long time since i was looking at computer parts and that's why i need some help.
i won't have a problem with overclocking unless it's not needed,
the pc will be mainly for gaming and work of SQA .
i live in Israel and we have 2 retails that sell PC components .
ksp.co.il
ivoryy.co.il
i would like to reuse some parts if possible such as: cooling, PSU and the Case and the GPU in the begining until i can find a good card

Thank you for your help!!


my PC is:
i7 - 4790k Intel,
Mobo - Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5,
Cooling - Arctic freeze 13,
2 16gb ddr3 G.skill f3-1600c11-8gnt
GPU - MSI gtx 970 4gb,
PSU - super flower sf-650p14ex golden green hx 80plus gold (650 watt)
Case - Silverstone RVO3B-W Midi tower,
Monitor - LG 24GM77 B.AEU,

I also 2 SSD cards (one is the system) and one 1tb HDD and one 2tb HDD.

 

[Darkbreeze]

What country are you in?

 

[ilyam1]

in Israel.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Good luck with that. I already know how difficult and expensive it is to get anything even halfway decent, or at all, in your country. Have been down this road with a number of people in the past.

Do you have a specific online retailer you can order through that I might look at and at least TRY to help you select some parts that would be worthwhile? Or, are you limited to obtaining parts through local shops?

 

[Why_Me]

Good luck with that. I already know how difficult and expensive it is to get anything even halfway decent, or at all, in your country. Have been down this road with a number of people in the past.

Do you have a specific online retailer you can order through that I might look at and at least TRY to help you select some parts that would be worthwhile? Or, are you limited to obtaining parts through local shops?

From the OP:
ksp.co.il
ivoryy.co.il

 

[Darkbreeze]

From the OP:
ksp.co.il
ivoryy.co.il

Thanks. I guess I missed that. LOL.

 

[Darkbreeze]

CPU: https://ksp.co.il/web/item/230495

Motherboard: https://ksp.co.il/web/item/217964

Memory: https://ksp.co.il/web/item/177225

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.ivory.co.il/catalog.php?id=44495
Gigabyte B660M Gaming X DDR4 ₪680

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B660M-GAMING-X-DDR4-rev-1x#kf

https://www.ivory.co.il/catalog.php?id=45329
Intel Core i5-12400F ₪760

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://ksp.co.il/web/item/186690
Kingston FURY BEAST DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL16 ₪376

i5 12400 / 12400F gaming benchmarks.

 

[ilyam1]

thank you guys, i see that you recommend me 2 diffrent cpus.
i will check if i can go for the 13th generation and do you think that i can use my PSU, COOLING, CASE and GPU?
and also why shouldn't i go for AMD?

 

[pete_101]

thank you guys, i see that you recommend me 2 diffrent cpus.
i will check if i can go for the 13th generation and do you think that i can use my PSU, COOLING, CASE and GPU?
and also why shouldn't i go for AMD?

If you go AMD now, you're probably looking at the 5000 series which uses the AM4 socket....the new 7000 series uses AM5 and requires expensive DDR5 RAM. Because the 5000 series is the last to use the socket, you don't have any future upgrade options, except what's already out there. If you never intend to upgrade the CPU, then AMD is fine....my suggestion for a cheap gaming PC that can run the current generation GPUs is to use the R5 5600 or the 5600X if it's close in price. Pair it with a B550 motherboard and 2x8GB DDR4 3200 CL16 RAM. In the future you could upgrade the CPU for a used 5800X

 

[Darkbreeze]

If you go Intel you don't have any upgrade options either down the road aside from what's already available for the LGA 1700 socket because the next generation of Intel is going to once again, also, require a different socket and therefore a new motherboard.

And while the build outlined by Why_Me IS less expensive, there is a reason for that and that reason is that those parts are from the lower end of the spectrum for this platform. The parts I recommended are going to have longer legs (meaning, while there is no such thing as "future proof", they are going to take you further into the future than any of the 12th gen parts.) and if saving money is all you care about then the 12400/12400f is not a bad option, certainly miles better than what you have now, but if you want to get the absolute most out of the budget you set forth I think for your region that the 13600k with 3600mhz memory kit is worth the difference.

Normally I am seeing that recommendation for the 12400f made, especially by one particular person, with the reasoning that it's less expensive now and it offers you the ability to upgrade to something better later but it really makes no sense to me because if you simply buy something better now, which you can, you don't NEED to upgrade again later to something else from the same generation of architecture. Why buy parts twice for the same platform when there is no need to. Buy what will take you the furthest, now, and then don't look at upgrading again until either you absolutely have to or something REALLY interesting comes along that you WANT to upgrade to simply because you choose to.

And just for giggles, they really aren't even close in terms of overall performance. Especially on anything that's even halfway well optimized for threaded performance OR if you do a fair amount of multitasking while you game with mods, overlays, recording, streaming, browser tabs, Skype or whatever as it has approximately 95% better multithreaded performance. But even the single core performance is like 20% better on the 13600k than it is on the 12400 or 12400F.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4681vs5008/Intel-i5-12400F-vs-Intel-i5-13600K

Most of the gaming benchmarks I've looked at show the 13600k getting significantly higher FPS and overall value, like, 30% or more depending on the game or application.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-13600k/18.html

 

[sonofjesse]

Also be sure to sell your OLD PC parts, that extra money might help you increase your build by couple of dollars.