[SOLVED] Building a new PC for first time for entry level gaming on budget

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I am building new PC for first time. Just need a little assurances if it will be good. I intend to play some decent games(GTA 5,Apex legends,Battlefield,COD etc.) and do little bit of browsing and other usual stuff. I am not buying a new monitor, hdd, keyboard and mouse as i will be using them from my previous pc. my budget is INR 35,000($500) and it would be better using amazon links as I live in India. The specs I am thinking of:
  • AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
  • Asus PRIME B450M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
  • Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
  • Western Digital Green 120 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
  • Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case OR Ant Esports ICE-511MT Mid Tower Case with 3 x 120mm Auto-RGB Front & 1 x120mm Fan
  • Corsair CX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Right now I am just really confused about which of the case to use for good performance and cooling and IF required any more fans in it. Another thing I have also been thinking about is that if I should use the stock CPU cooler or buy a new and better cooler.
The ssd I will be using for OS and the seagate 500gb 3.5" hdd from old pc for storage(will later think of upgrading). A year or so later I will be adding a gpu on it so I want the setup to be optimised for it with proper cooling and all for good performance.
 

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First, regarding the power supply, I would like to see a better one (say a Corsair TXM), but I realize the budget constraints are pretty tight. The CX 450 still covers you, but make SURE that it is the one that says CX 450 (2017).

As to trying to keep things in-budget - If you go with:
That total (₹14375) is VERY close to what a 3400g alone would be (₹13299).

Alternately, you can just get the 2400g, and get a video card later when you have more funds. The 3400g is significantly more expensive, but not enough performance gain to justify it.

This is the list of the parts you mentioned, on PCPartpicker, using only Amazon India as a vendor. The only difference is that the SSD is 240GB because the 120GB version wouldn't come up, so the 240GB Western Digital Green was the least expensive M2-2280 SSD I saw.

Still, it's over the ₹35,000 limit. You might be able to shave a bit off by going with less expensive RAM, but I didn't have time to check the QVL lists.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (₹9899.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B450M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (₹7288.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (₹13325.00 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Western Digital Green 240 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (₹2469.00 @ Amazon India)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (₹3995.00 @ Amazon India)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (₹3875.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹40851.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-29 22:20 IST+0530
 
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o god your gonna need a biger buget to do that
PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GNdrYH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($421.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($243.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($55.72 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($138.59 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($294.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($208.12 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1747.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-28 11:27 EST-0500
 

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I am building new PC for first time. Just need a little assurances if it will be good. I intend to play some decent games(GTA 5,Apex legends,Battlefield,COD etc.) and do little bit of browsing and other usual stuff. I am not buying a new monitor, hdd, keyboard and mouse as i will be using them from my previous pc. my budget is INR 35,000($500) and it would be better using amazon links as I live in India. The specs I am thinking of:
  • AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
  • Asus PRIME B450M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
  • Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
  • Western Digital Green 120 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
  • Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case OR Ant Esports ICE-511MT Mid Tower Case with 3 x 120mm Auto-RGB Front & 1 x120mm Fan
  • Corsair CX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Right now I am just really confused about which of the case to use for good performance and cooling and IF required any more fans in it. Another thing I have also been thinking about is that if I should use the stock CPU cooler or buy a new and better cooler.
The ssd I will be using for OS and the seagate 500gb 3.5" hdd from old pc for storage(will later think of upgrading). A year or so later I will be adding a gpu on it so I want the setup to be optimised for it with proper cooling and all for good performance.
The case can be any in your budget, and micro-atx to match your motherboard. It depends on budget and aesthetics. I recommend not using integrated graphics and getting a Ryzen 3 and a Graphics card such as a RX570 for the Ryzen 5 because integrated graphics is awful nowadays. If i were you the case I would go for is the Ant Esports. Simply for its looks and 2 extra fans.
 

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o god your gonna need a biger buget to do that
PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GNdrYH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($421.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($243.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($55.72 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($138.59 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($294.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($208.12 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1747.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-28 11:27 EST-0500
Unfortunately this above is quite oddly put together.
  • 3700X is overkill.
  • Third party cooler not necessarily needed
  • X570 board not necessarily needed. Especially maybe not a WiFi one.
  • Single channel memory is poor and too small.
  • 970 EVO is overkill for gaming.
  • 750W PSU is about 300W more than a 1660 would need.
I'd sooner look at:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (₹9899.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (₹7099.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (₹7499.00 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (₹5890.00 @ Amazon India)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (₹2850.00 @ Amazon India)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (₹3800.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹37037.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-28 22:07 IST+0530


However, it won't run all games fantastic on the 2400G integrated. It will run them at lower settings, such as Far Cry for example, so you may want to up the budget if you want to play them effectively at higher settings at 1080p.
 

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yes but The pc I built works well
But is not needed, and also over $1000 more than the OPs budget.
Many of the parts are overkill or not optimal.

3700X will often perform the same as a 3600.
Single channel RAM, will pretty much always run worse than dual channel.
RM PSU whilst is excellent is far more than required same with the X570 board. They'll be no more beneficial than lower models.
Also 970 is overkill as 99% of users won't get any benefit from NVME speeds anyway.
 

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the X 570 is reqired for its one of the few that are compatible
No it isn't.

B450 and X470 is compatible with 3rd Gen, and X570 simply offers PCIe Gen 4. Which for nearly everyone as of current, is not needed.
X570 was just released for 3rd Gen, but is also the most expensive chipset to get for them.

X570 is absolutely not necessary for any Ryzen.
 

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o god your gonna need a biger buget to do that
PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GNdrYH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($421.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($243.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($55.72 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($138.59 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($294.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($208.12 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1747.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-28 11:27 EST-0500
Sorry but did you even read the post? His current list includes a 2400G and doesn’t have a discrete GPU, how would he be able to get a 3700X and an X570 board and a 1660?
 

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I intend to play some decent games(GTA 5,Apex legends,Battlefield,COD etc.)
Another thing I have also been thinking about is that if I should use the stock CPU cooler or buy a new and better cooler.
The vega graphics on the 2400G will definitely struggle in those games, maybe save up a little bit and try to find used GPU? Also you should be fine with the stock CPU cooler for now and save for a discrete GPU
 
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I think that 2400g with dual channel 3000mhz 16gb ram should be good enough to run some games at playble frame rates with medium or low settings as i am not really trying to play them at high settings and all. And also i think the integrated vega 11 graphics with the apu should be good enough and plus i am really on a tight budget right now so not trying to spend much as of now. There are some youtube videos in which several games were tested and the results were good/satisfactory
View: https://youtu.be/WXrC84HVEAU

View: https://youtu.be/oRddbrc0dFo

View: https://youtu.be/S-8dRjLLDv8

Again i would say that i am first time building pc so dont really know much but from the specs i think i can do just some casual or low medium gaming which i could later in future upgrade by adding in a good gpu
 

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@Garimay5829 - what is the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor? Does it have FreeSync by any chance?

@laptop-Tech I have to echo the sentiments of others - did you even read the OP's full post? Limited budget, and plans to buy a GPU sometime in the future. (EDIT: not to mention stating outright false information - the X570 is most certainly NOT "required" as you stated)

And: limiting purchases to Amazon India. Needless to say, your list is not only overkill, but, as mentioned, not well thought out in terms of matching parts overall (you're trying to go way overkill on CPU, SSD, and motherboard, yet resorted to SINGLE channel RAM), but your selections are also Canadian shops, which doesn't help the OP at all.
 
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@Garimay5829 - what is the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor? Does it have FreeSync by any chance?

@laptop-Tech I have to echo the sentiments of others - did you even read the OP's full post? Limited budget, and plans to buy a GPU sometime in the future.

And: limiting purchases to Amazon India. Needless to say, your list is not only overkill, but, as mentioned, not well thought out in terms of matching parts overall (you're trying to go way overkill on CPU, SSD, and motherboard, yet resorted to SINGLE channel RAM), but your selections are also Canadian shops, which doesn't help the OP at all.
The monitor I will be using is HP 22es 21.5-inch Display with 1920x1080 pixels resolution with refresh rate of 50 hz-60 hz and I dont think if it has FreeSync.
 
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Will it become any better if I switched to an intel build with discreet gpu for the same budget? This is the alternate intel build I am taking about:
Asus PRIME H310M-E
i3-9100F
GALAX GeForce GTX 1660 6GB 1-Click OC
Crucial 4GB 2400Mhz DDR4 1.2v CL17 UDIMM RAM (x2)
Antec BP450P Or the same as before Corsair CX 450 W

For the case, I was thinking more about cooler master q300L than ant esports 511mt for better cooling.
So I should I go with the amd build or this intel build for the same budget?
 

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If you're going to go with a discrete GPU, I would then suggest sticking with your original plan, but going with a Ryzen 5 1600 or a Ryzen 5 2600. They have 6 cores and 12 threads, vs the i3's 4-cores/4-threads.

BUT - it's hard to argue with the significantly lower price on the 9100f. I will admit though that I am surprised to see the 9100f as inexpensive as it is, and the 9100 (non-f) being almost double what the 9100-f costs.
 
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Unfortunately this above is quite oddly put together.
  • 3700X is overkill.
  • Third party cooler not necessarily needed
  • X570 board not necessarily needed. Especially maybe not a WiFi one.
  • Single channel memory is poor and too small.
  • 970 EVO is overkill for gaming.
  • 750W PSU is about 300W more than a 1660 would need.
I'd sooner look at:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (₹9899.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (₹7099.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (₹7499.00 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (₹5890.00 @ Amazon India)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (₹2850.00 @ Amazon India)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (₹3800.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹37037.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-28 22:07 IST+0530


However, it won't run all games fantastic on the 2400G integrated. It will run them at lower settings, such as Far Cry for example, so you may want to up the budget if you want to play them effectively at higher settings at 1080p.
The 970 evo is great for gaming and general performance for it will instantly boot the windows' os and the wifi board is nessasaety for 3077x
 
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If you're going to go with a discrete GPU, I would then suggest sticking with your original plan, but going with a Ryzen 5 1600 or a Ryzen 5 2600. They have 6 cores and 12 threads, vs the i3's 4-cores/4-threads.

BUT - it's hard to argue with the significantly lower price on the 9100f. I will admit though that I am surprised to see the 9100f as inexpensive as it is, and the 9100 (non-f) being almost double what the 9100-f costs.
To be honest I am really confused here if I should do a 2400g/3400g with integrated or some other cpu with discrete GPU which I suppose would be better than integrated . Now if were to go between 3400g and 2600 then it will be with a 3400g option which is roughly at same price range of that of a 2600 and it should give the integrated vega 11 graphics support at no extra cost with it rather than buying a ryzen 5 2600 with rx570 kind of graphics card which would be double or more than the cost of 3400g option. And then some time later I will add in a graphics card too with it. So i think 3400g should be better than 2600 right now. Now if I were to go with cpu + discreet gpu option then it should be at same budget than 3400g. So any thoughts on which one should I go with?
 

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First, regarding the power supply, I would like to see a better one (say a Corsair TXM), but I realize the budget constraints are pretty tight. The CX 450 still covers you, but make SURE that it is the one that says CX 450 (2017).

As to trying to keep things in-budget - If you go with:
That total (₹14375) is VERY close to what a 3400g alone would be (₹13299).

Alternately, you can just get the 2400g, and get a video card later when you have more funds. The 3400g is significantly more expensive, but not enough performance gain to justify it.

This is the list of the parts you mentioned, on PCPartpicker, using only Amazon India as a vendor. The only difference is that the SSD is 240GB because the 120GB version wouldn't come up, so the 240GB Western Digital Green was the least expensive M2-2280 SSD I saw.

Still, it's over the ₹35,000 limit. You might be able to shave a bit off by going with less expensive RAM, but I didn't have time to check the QVL lists.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (₹9899.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B450M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (₹7288.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (₹13325.00 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Western Digital Green 240 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (₹2469.00 @ Amazon India)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (₹3995.00 @ Amazon India)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (₹3875.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹40851.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-29 22:20 IST+0530
 
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Thanks alot for the info! I will choose the g skill ripjaws v 2x8gb 3200 memory cause it is alot cheper. I will be making the 2400g pc a month later from now when my exams will be over. Till then really excited to make this build!
Thanks again
 
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I can't believe I missed it the details on it . . but I think it's better to go with @PC Tailor 's build above instead of what I did (which was mostly a duplicate of your original list)- brings you a little closer to your budget limit. Or swap the SSD for the smaller drive if you absolutely MUST get under the ₹35,000 limit... but I think his build as-is is the way to go.
 
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To be honest I am really confused here if I should do a 2400g/3400g with integrated or some other cpu with discrete GPU which I suppose would be better than integrated . Now if were to go between 3400g and 2600 then it will be with a 3400g option which is roughly at same price range of that of a 2600 and it should give the integrated vega 11 graphics support at no extra cost with it rather than buying a ryzen 5 2600 with rx570 kind of graphics card which would be double or more than the cost of 3400g option. And then some time later I will add in a graphics card too with it. So i think 3400g should be better than 2600 right now. Now if I were to go with cpu + discreet gpu option then it should be at same budget than 3400g. So any thoughts on which one should I go with?
Being very unfamiliar with your market the best advice I may add here is to give yourself viable upgrade paths.
Going with that 9100f would mean that you will only play games and nothing else, no intensive multitasking, streaming, or other workloads that may require more cores/threads. But it gives you the chance to buy a better discrete gpu than what you would experience with an 2400g/3400g. You have an upgrade path towrds a 9500f as well other cpus of the same socket.

Going with the ryzen options gives you leg room on multi tasking and allows you to spend a little more on other components of the build that you compromise on if you opted for a discrete gpu right now. If you are fine with going lowering graphics settings then atleast can rest easy knowing you spent an appropriate amount on an optimal PSU, storage, better ram since your iGpu will take from you Dram as its Vram, or maybe even a cooler since most people dont take into consideration ambient temps of different countries, also you may add an earlier savings towards buying that discrete gpu. Down the line you would also have an upgrade path for your ryzen cpu.

TLDR Give yourself options or tailor the build for future upgrades, since you are fine with low settings this may help you with the patience of upgrading. Each build has its own compromise, each budget has its own aswell.
 
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I can't believe I missed it the details on it . . but I think it's better to go with @PC Tailor 's build above instead of what I did (which was mostly a duplicate of your original list)- brings you a little closer to your budget limit. Or swap the SSD for the smaller drive if you absolutely MUST get under the ₹35,000 limit... but I think his build as-is is the way to go.
Totally agree with you. I will use a smaller ssd in place of that one and the cooler master q300l should be good(good airflow and looks nice and compact).
 

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