building a new rig

jihiggs

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im going to be building a new rig very soon, comments and critisism welcome. im still confused on wich cpu to buy.

----need to buy----

mobo - <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-498&depa=0" target="_new">http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-498&depa=0</A>

cpu - clawhammer or newcastle???? i cant decide. 3000 speed either way.

ram - (2) <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-219&depa=0" target="_new">http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-219&depa=0</A>

----already have----

hd - 2 raptor 36 gig sata drives

optical drives - plextor something dvd burner, plextor ultra plex 40x reader, some dumb brand dvd reader.

power supply - enermax 430 watt

graphics card - saphire 9500 pro

i think it will be a pretty kick ass rig.

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pauldh

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I ordered that cpu last week and am waiting for the mobo to come in stock at newegg. Can't wait. :eek:


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scottchen

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It's a decent board, just some annoying problems that can piss people off. But if you're only planning to run 2x512mb of ram in dual channel, make sure you get micron or samsung ram, then raise the vdimm to 2.75, that should get rid of any memory problems.
 

jihiggs

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ok, now im confused, i thought the 939 and 940 pin chips were both opterons, and server end chips. now i think i got it straight. the 940 pin chip is the opteron, the 939 pin chip is the athlon 64 fx, the 754 pin is the athlon 64 and the semperon is the new duron right? the semperon and the athlon 64 share the same pga right? but the socket for the 939 pin chips dont work with the 754 pin chips? damn, just when you think your keeping up with this stuff you get kicked in the gut and feel like a noob all over again.

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scottchen

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AMD has just released 3000+, 3200+, 3500+, on the winchester core for Socket939, 3800+, 4000+, are still on the newcastle core. Go for the 3000+ winchester it defaults at 1.8Ghz, and Anandtech pushed it to 2.6Ghz using stock cooling, using moderate voltage increase.
 

fishmahn

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Ok, AMD has 4 sockets currently. Socket A (462), Socket 754, 939 and 940.

Socket A: Athlon up to XP, Duron, lower-end Sempron. This is a dying socket.
Socket 754: Athlon 64 up to 3700+, Sempron 3100+. Single channel DDR RAM. This was the high end (not server) socket, now it's the 'budget' socket.
Socket 939: Athlon 64 (including FX). Dual-channel DDR RAM. The new high end socket.
Socket 940: Opteron. Registered RAM required. This is the server/workstation socket.

The Sempron 3100+ is an A64 core with the 64 part disabled/missing. All other Semprons are Athlon XP cores.

Only chips for the specific socket work on that socket - a 754 cpu will not work on a 939/940 board or vice-versa, but you can get several A64 cpu versions for either socket. (i.e., a 3200+ is available in both a 754 version and a 939 version.)

Mike.

(edited to fix socket A pin count #)<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by fishmahn on 11/02/04 04:23 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

pauldh

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Problem is now, everyone is out of the K8N neo2. Newegg changed it from today to the 12th, zipzoom is out, excaliber out, gameve out. :frown:

My 3000+ comes tomorrow and no mobo until who knows when.


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endyen

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get <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-128-263&depa=0" target="_new">http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-128-263&depa=0</A> instead. Nice board nice price, nice features, and better ram support.
 

jammydodger

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The origional FX chips were also socket940, they were basically higher clocked opterons without the ability to work in multi-cpu evironments. They still needed registered RAM though. Socket 939 got rid of the need for registered RAM.