Building a new system for gaming, looking for advice on choosing a motherboard

[AceRoccola]

I'm having trouble with my current PC, and after months of troubleshooting and empty threads on sites across the web, I've resigned myself to scrapping my existing PC and starting fresh. My system is hopelessly dated anyway, so I could benefit from moving into the current age.

Right now, I'm looking at these for my main components:

Case - Phanteks Eclipse P4005 ATX Mid Tower:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854053

PSU - EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 (80+ Gold 750W):
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438017

CPU: Intel Core I5-7600k Kaby Lake 3.8GHz:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117728

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-pin DDR4 2400:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231888

I have a GTX 970 and a WD Blue 1TB SSD already on hand that I'll use in this new build. Which leaves me looking for a motherboard. I'm going with Intel because it still seems to dominate in performance. Right now I'm between three choices, all LGA 1151:

MSI Z270 Gaming M5: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130970
ASUS ROG Strix Z270H Gaming: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132931
ASRock Z270 Killer: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157746

These are between $140 and $170. They each seem like decent options, but I've been wrong before, so I'd love to hear from some people with more knowledge than I. ASRock seems to have good reviews, but I don't know the brand. I'm trying to keep it under $200, but I'm welcome to suggestions if anyone can recommend something better/more reliable. I'm also open to suggestions about the other components.

I'm trying to build something that will give me better gaming performance, but I'm not trying to do 4K or VR or anything outrageous. I just want to be solid at 1080p for a while and not struggle to hit 30 frames in modern games. Factoring in the cost of the motherboard, this list is set to cost roughly $700 from newegg, which is about what I'm aiming to spend on this build at this stage.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

so without gpu and storage :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($336.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 51.2 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.85 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $750.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 02:54 EDT-0400

that asrock mobo comes with gaming lan and has some lighting for aesthetics 😉

 

[WrektGlitch]

From what I've seen, ASRock has had chipset implementation issues, so I tend to avoid them. As far as the MSI and ASUS boards go, you really would be fine with either one. The only real davantage that the Strix has over the MSI is it's dual M.2 slots, but that only matters if you intend to run dual M.2 drives.

 

[adiec]

you have a 1tb ssd ? nice ! i suggest going this way .

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8TR8K
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8TR8K/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($312.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $699.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 02:54 EDT-0400

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ havent heard abt them. is it possible that u r talking abt the new am4 mobo? even there, asrock seems to be the one with least issues, excluding the ram compatibility.

 

[adiec]

^ havent heard abt them. is it possible that u r talking abt the new am4 mobo? even there, asrock seems to be the one with least issues, excluding the ram compatibility.

it's about the millionth time i have read about these problems from this poster but have not seen anything anywhere else .

is it possible you could link us to the source ?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ i think u should have quoted WrektGlitch in this regard XD

 

[adiec]

^ i think u should have quoted WrektGlitch in this regard XD

no! i was asking him but quoting your comment rather than repeating what you said 😛 haha


edit: just badly phrased ha! apologies hehe

 

[WrektGlitch]

^ havent heard abt them. is it possible that u r talking abt the new am4 mobo? even there, asrock seems to be the one with least issues, excluding the ram compatibility.

It's honestly just a matter of opinion for me. I just don't trust ASRock because of past issues. Everybody has a distaste for certain manufacturers due to personal experiences, and ASRock is mine.

 

[adiec]

^ havent heard abt them. is it possible that u r talking abt the new am4 mobo? even there, asrock seems to be the one with least issues, excluding the ram compatibility.

It's honestly just a matter of opinion for me. I just don't trust ASRock because of past issues. Everybody has a distaste for certain manufacturers due to personal experiences, and ASRock is mine.

please refrain from doing that ! it makes you look twisted and it's untrue when you can't back it up with facts . just a friendly bit of advice . no offence intended 😛

 

[WrektGlitch]

^ havent heard abt them. is it possible that u r talking abt the new am4 mobo? even there, asrock seems to be the one with least issues, excluding the ram compatibility.

it's about the millionth time i have read about these problems from this poster but have not seen anything anywhere else .

is it possible you could link us to the source ?

Actually, it's only the second time you've seen it, and I stand by it due to my own personal experiences. You're just somebody that thinks they know everything. Quick question, though...Why would you suggest 3000MHz RAM from some nobodies, when Ryzen won't support above 2800MHz right now? Just curious...

 

[WrektGlitch]

^ havent heard abt them. is it possible that u r talking abt the new am4 mobo? even there, asrock seems to be the one with least issues, excluding the ram compatibility.

It's honestly just a matter of opinion for me. I just don't trust ASRock because of past issues. Everybody has a distaste for certain manufacturers due to personal experiences, and ASRock is mine.

please refrain from doing that ! it makes you look twisted and it's untrue when you can't back it up with facts . just a friendly bit of advice . no offence intended 😛

I have the facts to back up my personal opinion, whether you like it or not. You don't have to agree with it, but you're definitely not gonna make me stop expressing an opinion. Our knowledge is all we have, and as your avatar states, it's only powerful when shared.

 

[adiec]

^ havent heard abt them. is it possible that u r talking abt the new am4 mobo? even there, asrock seems to be the one with least issues, excluding the ram compatibility.

it's about the millionth time i have read about these problems from this poster but have not seen anything anywhere else .

is it possible you could link us to the source ?

Actually, it's only the second time you've seen it, and I stand by it due to my own personal experiences. You're just somebody that thinks they know everything. Quick question, though...Why would you suggest 3000MHz RAM from some nobodies, when Ryzen won't support above 2800MHz right now? Just curious...

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7979/team-force-night-hawk-ddr4-3000-16gb-memory-kit-review/index.html.

don't assume that it is only the 2nd time i have seen it . i could have seen the same post a million times for all you know 😉
again don't assume. i do not believe i know everything.. in fact i am more than willing to admit when i am out of my depth.


i offered you some friendly advice based on you may have good technical knowledge but you let your disdain for a certain manufacturer get in the way . i shall not reply to you again. good day.

 

[WrektGlitch]

^ havent heard abt them. is it possible that u r talking abt the new am4 mobo? even there, asrock seems to be the one with least issues, excluding the ram compatibility.

it's about the millionth time i have read about these problems from this poster but have not seen anything anywhere else .

is it possible you could link us to the source ?

Actually, it's only the second time you've seen it, and I stand by it due to my own personal experiences. You're just somebody that thinks they know everything. Quick question, though...Why would you suggest 3000MHz RAM from some nobodies, when Ryzen won't support above 2800MHz right now? Just curious...

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7979/team-force-night-hawk-ddr4-3000-16gb-memory-kit-review/index.html.

don't assume that it is only the 2nd time i have seen it . i could have seen the same post a million times for all you know 😉
again don't assume. i do not believe i know everything.. in fact i am more than willing to admit when i am out of my depth.


i offered you some friendly advice based on you may have good technical knowledge but you let your disdain for a certain manufacturer get in the way . i shall not reply to you again. good day.

As far as opinions go, we all speak from what we know. I know that ASRock has had issues from the tons of posts from other users, as well as my own experience. I also know that companies like Corsair have great customer service, and that in the unlikely event that you have an issue with their RAM, they'll have no problems righting the wrong.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

AM said it will support all rams by end of may. as of now all rams except samsung b die ones run @ 2133. the b die ones run @ 2933. th G.Skill flare X 3200 runs @ native speed. no issues. just what u would expect from rams designed for Ryzen. there r cases that SK Hynix ones running @ 2933 in MSI tomahawk and some X370 boards.

but like i said, expect all issues to be cleared by the end of may 😉

 

[Chugalug_]

@OP, give me a budget for your entire build.
An i7 7700 will perform much better than a 7600k.

 

[adiec]

@OP, give me a budget for your entire build.
An i7 7700 will perform much better than a 7600k.

read the last sentence of the original post 😛

 

[WrektGlitch]

AM said it will support all rams by end of may. as of now all rams except samsung b die ones run @ 2133. the b die ones run @ 2933. th G.Skill flare X 3200 runs @ native speed. no issues. just what u would expect from rams designed for Ryzen. there r cases that SK Hynix ones running @ 2933 in MSI tomahawk and some X370 boards.

but like i said, expect all issues to be cleared by the end of may 😉

Speaking of SK Hynix, I'm a fan of their SSDs. I have a 250GB Canvas 308 for my OS and a couple games, and it's ran great. Not too many people that know about SK Hynix, not to mention that they produce RAM and SSDs. For $80, it's a solid SSD.

 

[ARICH5]

please take your arguments to pm's...lets concetrate on helping the OP

 

[Chugalug_]

Given you're gaming, here's my suggestion.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($336.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Other: P400S Tempered Glass Black/Red ($89.99)
Total: $705.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 03:52 EDT-0400

 

[ARICH5]

Given you're gaming, here's my suggestion.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($336.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Other: P400S Tempered Glass Black/Red ($89.99)
Total: $705.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 03:52 EDT-0400

chug, i wouldnt put a 40$ psu with a 400$ cpu......something gold.

 

[adiec]

Given you're gaming, here's my suggestion.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($336.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Other: P400S Tempered Glass Black/Red ($89.99)
Total: $705.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 03:52 EDT-0400

chug, i wouldnt put a 40$ psu with a 400$ cpu......something gold.

it's a very good quality power supply. not sure what it is like in relation to overclocking but its quality .

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ 80+ gold isnt the only quality factor. the cxm550 is all right for this build. but there r better PSU out there.

 

[Chugalug_]

Cost doesn't translate directly into quality, neither does 80+ rating.
Do your research on PSUs, the CX550M is very high quality.

 

[Chugalug_]

Given you're gaming, here's my suggestion.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($336.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Other: P400S Tempered Glass Black/Red ($89.99)
Total: $705.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 03:52 EDT-0400

chug, i wouldnt put a 40$ psu with a 400$ cpu......something gold.

it's a very good quality power supply. not sure what it is like in relation to overclocking but its quality .

Overclocking isn't a factor that should be taken into account as a different thing, it's just the act of applying slightly higher power draw to components, for the 7700k this should add 50w worst case in heavy OCing, or about 30w for the GPU.