Building a new system, need suggestions. (not a gaming pc)

[raciel1921]

Hello everyone, so after many years (6 I think) I'm upgrading my pc. I have a budget to buy my new and I cannot change it in anyway.
My actual rig is:

i5 760 stock clock.
12gb ddr3 ram
gtx 970
CM 750w
windows 7 64bits
dell 22' 1680x1050
4tbWD HDD

I don't use my pc for gaming, though I do play from time to time a few games, the last game I wanted to play was kingdom come deliverance and it wasnt playable, it is playable (55fps in medium/high) but there are framedrops that make this particular game unplayable for me.

I use my pc mostly for: Internet browsing, rendering /editing videos in sony vegas pro, photoshop CC and using oracle virtualbox / vmplayer (this is really important)
I do not overclock nor am I interested in doing so.

So here is what I want to buy/can afford and my questions:


I can go for either the Ryzen 5 2600 or the Intel 8400.
with an msi A320m Gaming Pro-la (or something similar) / Gigabyte Ga-h310m-h (or something similar) I don't use the onboard sound but an external dac so I don't care about sound.

I was reading that ryzen really benefits with a dual channel ram and the speed of the memory too, so I was thinking of going for 2x8gb ram 3000mhz but if I buy the dual memories I wont be able to afford an SSD samsung evo 860 240gb for the OS.

So, what's better, buying those extra 8gb (having 16b dual ram) or going for the samsung SSD? I cant afford buying both of them, it is either going for the 16gb or 8gb+ the SSD.
Will the speed in the memories really make a difference?
Is it enough with 8gb? Right now im using 12gb and I never had any issue so I'm afraid that lowering to 8 would bring me issues...
ryzen 2600 with those extra cores or go for the 8400?

Lastly I don't plan changing my OS, I wont install win 10 for now, maybe when I'm really forced to do so but not at the moment.

Again:
- I don't OC.
- Cant afford buying everything or something that is not listed.
- It wont be a gaming pc.

Basically I can pick one of these 4 options:

1)
Ryzen 5 2600
msi A320m Gaming Pro-la
8gb ddr4 3000mhz
samsung evo 860 240gb

2)
Ryzen 5 2600
msi A320m Gaming Pro-la
2x8gb dual channel ddr4 3000mhz
keep using my old sata 4tb hdd for the OS.

3)
Intel 8400
Ga-h310m-h
8gb ddr4 3000mhz
samsung evo 860 240gb

4)
Intel 8400
Ga-h310m-h
2x8gb dual channel ddr4 (i dont think the speed matters here so 2400mhz)
keep using my old sata 4tb hdd for the OS.


Thanks and sorry for the convoluted post xD !

 

[kindangrysliceofpie]

I’d highly suggest NOT using an A320 motherboard with the R5 2600, as you will run into some issues.

 

[raciel1921]

I’d highly suggest NOT using an A320 motherboard with the R5 2600, as you will run into some issues.

why is that? and what chipset do you recommend me?
Thanks for your reply.

 

[kindangrysliceofpie]

I’d highly suggest NOT using an A320 motherboard with the R5 2600, as you will run into some issues.

why is that? and what chipset do you recommend me?
Thanks for your reply.

R5 is short for Ryzen 5 2600. It’s a thing with how the CPU interacts with the system, and the A320 is outdated.

Id recommend a B450 or an X470 chipset board.

 

[raciel1921]

I’d highly suggest NOT using an A320 motherboard with the R5 2600, as you will run into some issues.

why is that? and what chipset do you recommend me?
Thanks for your reply.

R5 is short for Ryzen 5 2600. It’s a thing with how the CPU interacts with the system, and the A320 is outdated.

Id recommend a B450 or an X470 chipset board.

Thanks for the advice, I wasn't aware of that, I can go for a b450 (they are a bit more expensive but I guess i dont have a choice)
I can buy the Gigabyte Ga-b450m Ds3h or anything similar.
The x470 are just too expensive for me right now...

 

[tennis2]

Please provide Country and Budget.

Of the 4 options you boxed us in with, I'd recommend Option 1 (with a B450 mobo) or Option 3

DEFINITELY find budget for an SSD. If you don't get an SSD, it's basically wasting the upgrade altogether. 8GB of RAM is still fine for now.

 

[raciel1921]

Please provide Country and Budget.

Of the 4 options you boxed us in with, I'd recommend Option 1 (with a B450 mobo) or Option 3

DEFINITELY find budget for an SSD. If you don't get an SSD, it's basically wasting the upgrade altogether. 8GB of RAM is still fine for now.

I'm from argentina, my budget would be around 650 dollars, bear in mind that the prices here are way higher than in other countries, for example a ryzen 5 2600 cost around 280 dollars and they can go as high as 300... motherboard b450 $120 (a cheap one), 8gb ram module $90 ("cheap" brand, like kingston 2400mhz) if I buy a dual kit (2x4gb) around $160-180, the SSD $160 more or less (always talking about 240-250gb and something reasonable decent like the evo 860), the i5 8400 $300 so it's a bit more expensive than the ryzen.

ok, so I'm leaning towards buying 8gb and go directly for the SSD,

Thanks for your answer.

 

[ohenryy]

Under 650$ since you say in your country the prices are higher...

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwvyTB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwvyTB/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($63.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 560 - 896 4 GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $537.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-21 02:50 EST-0500

 

[raciel1921]

Under 650$ since you say in your country the prices are higher...

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwvyTB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwvyTB/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($63.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 560 - 896 4 GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $537.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-21 02:50 EST-0500

I appreciate the time you took but I can't buy and import anything from outside my country, even if I could evade customs(Which i can't) they would charge me a 50% plus for each item, so I would end up paying a lot more than buying it here, and that is if they even arrive safe and are not stolen or broken in the customs of my country...
(yes it's a hell living here)

I decided to go for this:

Ryzen 5 2600
Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Asus Prime B450m-a Am4
Corsair 2x4gb 3200 Ddr4 Vengeance Lpx
(I wont change my gpu for now I don't see any reason since i dont play much or add any other HDD since I already have one... in fact I have 4 xD, same with the case and PSU)

every will end up costing around $560 (I spotted a place where they have the ram and SSD really cheap) also buying everything together in that place gets me a discount.

Thank you and everyone else for replying and helping me out, I would have end buying 16gb ram with a a350 if it werent for you guys, so thanks again.
I will post once I have my new pc running and with win7 working (I hope to not encounter many problems)

 

[raciel1921]

ok, got my pc running, after around 6 hours of hair pulling is now working.

- I tried to install windows 10 but but it wouldnt run with the usb stick, there was no way to make it run (I made it via rufus...) and burning a dvd was impossible at this stage since i didnt have a pc to burn it.

-So I put my modified dvd version of win 7 with ubs 30 drivers included, it worked fine with mouse and keyboard up until the point that you need to insert your name and put the time zone, which was weird... I have a ps2 keyboard so i didnt have any issues continuing, everything went fine after that (you need to install the chipset drivers with your ps2keyboard after that) but then i decided that i wanted to install my original win 7 dvd copy (doesnt even have sp1) since the other version was a bit sketchy for my taste(I found it on the net lol), so i formatted the disk tried to re-install windows and then the issues started to pop up, this is not a win 7 but windows in general...
the so called error error installing windows 0x80300024 which drove me crazy!!!

I fixed using shift+f10 while you select the disk you want to install windows and then in the console you write:

diskpart
list disk
select disk number (here you select the disk you want to install windows, make sure of it or you will delete another disk)
clear
create partition primary

then you restart and it's done (no need to unplug every sata you have >_>)

I then installed win 7 original with no sp1, no mouse or keyboard were detected during the whole process so i used my ps2 keyboard.

now im in the process of updating windows (using wufuc ) no issues so far.

My pc:

ryzen 5 2600
CM hyper H411R
asus primer b450m a (it was micro atx but had 6 sata so it was perfect)
2x8gb dual channel Adata Flame Ddr4 (AX4U240038G16-SBF) these were 2 separated sticks and are working just fine in dual channel.
keep using my old sata disk drives (I have 4) and my dvd optic sata drive which i used to install windows
cm silent pro 700w
gtx 970 asus strix
seagate barracuda ssd 250gb (STGS250401)


Picture:
https://i.imgur.com/Ve10SCQ.png

EDIT: forgot to say, i tried to lunch my windows 7 installed copy that i was using with my other pc (i5 760) and booted just fine and it was working really well but it was installed on a hdd not my ssd and i wanted to do a proper clean install, but it worked fine (well some errors here and there for some drivers and such of my old pc)

Second and last edit: pc works perfect, loads window in 15-20 seconds and Kingdom Come - Deliverance runs really smooth now, everything on max and i never experienced a framedrop, my old cpu really was bottle-necking my gpu performance