Building a PC

[Impala640]

Hey I am building my computer and I just wanted to ask if there are any minor incompatibility's with my parts. My CPU is the FX-8350 My CPU cooler is the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 My Motherboard is the Asus Motherboard M5A78L-M PLUS USB3 AM3+ My Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws X Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory My storage Kingston 480 GB SSD and 1TB 7200RPM My GPU RX 570 8GB OC My Case Deepcool Tesseract My PSU 650W 80+ Thanks

 

[volkgren]

You are buying all those parts? or you already have them? What's your budget for this build? You should go with a new CPU. The FX-8350 is old and slow.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

If you are building a new pc, that build is not very good due to the older and really inefficient platform. We could certainly come up with a better system for simmilar money. If you currently own that system it is time for an upgrade.

 

[g-unit1111]

Is this a new build or an existing build? If it's a new build I agree that there is 0 reason to go with FX anything. It should be a Ryzen 5 2600 or 2700 at minimum.

 

[bignastyid]

That motherboard and cpu are not a good combo, the board uses a weak VRM setup that is prone to throttling the 125w cpus.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

If you haven't bought these parts, do not buy them! If you have bought them, return them post haste.

 

[Impala640]

can i use it temporarily and upgrade later to a ryzan 5?

 

[volkgren]

can i use it temporarily and upgrade later to a ryzan 5?

Yes, but you will have to get new CPU, motherboard, and DDR4 RAM.

 

[Impala640]

Yeah can I use my current rig and play games like Black Ops 4, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Fortnite and in a few months change to a ryzan cpu and an AM4 mobo and DDR4 Ram

 

[Impala640]

I mean I don't really have the money to g out and buy a new MOBO and Processor and Ram

 

[Impala640]

I just looked at some benchmarks on the FX-8350 and I think it will be fine for me. And if t doesn't meet my standards then I'll see if I can make the $519 I need to swap the Motherboard, Ram and CPU out. And also I already ordered the parts and I am waiting for the last part. Thank you all for your help.

 

[volkgren]

You still have time to swap if the parts are unopened. As someone already said, you won't be getting the most out of the FX-8350 with that cheap motherboard. If you wanted a budget CPU you should have went with an Athlon X4 950 on a B450 motherboard with DDR4 RAM which is compatible with Ryzen if you want to upgrade again later.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

I agree with the above poster. In fact, if you're on a tight budget, I'd recommend return the 8350 and most parts except maybe the ram. Find yourself a used or refurbished desktop. Something like this would be ideal.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-990-MT-250GB-Intel-Core-i7-2nd-Gen-3-40GHz-4GB-PC-Desktop/254010676875?hash=item3b2437568b:g:6JQAAOSwxG9cBY4C:rk:18😛f:0&LH_BIN=1

Drop 16gb of ram into that board, drop in a mini gtx 1060 or 1070 or better. Upgrade the PSU, and add in an SSD and install Windows 10 there to boot from. Then either get a new drive as a secondary for storage or reuse the one that comes in it for storage.

I can almost guarantee you a system like that with an i7 2600 or i7 3770 will slap that 8350 in the mouth and keep doing circles around it. This statement is coming from an AMD fan/user as well. I had the FX 8120, FX 6300. I now even have a Ryzen 7 1700x in my system at home. My first PC was one with an AMD K6-2 at 200mhz if anyone remembers those. But that 8350 was decent for it's day, however, if you are getting new stuff, you are much better to go Ryzen, Intel, or go with an old office PC similar to what I linked. You would get much better gaming performance.

 

[Impala640]

I have made my decision. I’m going to keep my FX-8350 and tear apart every game on ultra graphics. I’m not going to be a sheep and buy what is new.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Your money. Spend it how you want, but you are investing in tech from 2011 basically. If you try to put any decent graphics card with FX, you will not get the max performance out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CdiwK7tjNk

Also, if you keep the 8350, you would be well advised swap out that motherboard. That board in your initial post is pretty low end and you may find it can't keep up with the 8350.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Keep your system as is and up to a ryzen platform later.

 

[Impala640]

My friend who builds computers for a job. Has been using it for 4 years and it can run any game at ultra graphics and he has a 980ti.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

It's your decision my friend. I'm not going to argue anymore. I've been doing computers for about 10 years professionally, for about 21 years as a hobby as well. Wow I feel old lol!

But I've had AM3 systems and built quite a few for others. I can tell you when I upgraded to ryzen it was great. With a card like a gtx 1060 6gb maybe even a 1070, you should be ok I think that will be relatively balanced. But if you try to go too high on the GPU, I think it will bottleneck, which means that the CPU would have a hard time keeping up.

Either way, enjoy it!

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Trust me. I have an old 6 core overclocked fx system at over 4ghz and it doesnt come near the performance of even my ryzen 3 quad core at stock 3.1ghz. Ryzen will run cooler, quieter and deliver actual performance. The old fx 8 core line of processors has a very bad reputation for stutter with high end gpus making some new games unplayable. It also delivers significantly less performance than the 2nd generation quad core I7s of the day. Its your money but unless you like stutter and low fps even after buying an expensive gpu, go with something newer.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

It may be a good time to wait tho.
Gamers nexus just released a video saying that his contact engineers at motherboard manufacturers have stated that 8 core,12 core, and 16 core 7nm cpus, as well as x570 chipsets with pcie 4.0 support are comeing with a target release date of sometime in july. Computex 2019 was mentioned as a possible release time. Gamers Nexus has always been very reliable.
Amd recently demoed one of the 8 core 7nm cpus beating the core i9 9900k in a cpu performance test while drawing way less power. You might want to wait to see what gets released. The cheap sub 100 ryzen 3 7nm cpus are rumored to be 6 core units with 12 threads and would surely crush the fx, however this may not be true.

 

[Impala640]

Well thanks for your help if I don’t like my FX-8350 then I’ll just get a RYZAN 7 2700X and I might upgrade to a 1080.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Sounds like a plan.

 

[Dugimodo]

It should still game ok but the reason you are getting so many people suggesting you should have gotten something else is that AMD CPUs of that generation are not the best choice for gaming compared to other options at a similar price. Almost any 4 core i5 of that age or even older for example would have been a better choice.

But you have made your decision so go for it and good luck. When it comes to upgrade time the Ryzens are a great option.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Right. I mean don't get me wrong, I had CPUs from that era. Those are what I gamed on myself. But compared to hardware from Intel at the time and compared to chips from AMD today, there is really no comparison.

We are just trying to help you. I know you say you don't want to be a sheep. I get it. I know what being on a budget is like, in the past, I've usually had to upgrade on a budget. We are just trying to explain how you can get the best value for your money. A lot of us on here have owned the hardware you are buying now and have upgraded since and know there is more value for the money than you are getting.

It is ultimately your decision, but by following the advice on this thread, I can almost guarantee that your will have a system that is faster for gaming and that will give you a more enjoyable experience.

 

[Impala640]

When I finish building my computer I will DM you all the Average FPS on all the games I named.