Building Comp for Gaming/Streaming/Browsing Simultaneously!

[Bluesilverkt]

Hello, I am going to be completing a new build soon and I am trying to go somewhat on the high end to keep this computer for a few years. I really want to make sure I pick the correct parts to meet my needs and maybe slightly extra in case I start doing other things. I know a lot of post already exist about this but from what I have noticed, its usually similar to me but not exactly and that makes me feel like it might not be the right choice. I am going to list my current setup and what I <--- do on my computer and that way you guys know exactly how to help me!

BTW 1000000 Thank You's in advanced since I REALLY want to get this right.

I am currently using a MSI Z97 Gaming 3 Mobo with an i5 4690k running at 3.5 Ghz, I have 16 Gigs of Ram, with a Gigabyte GTX 770. [Remember I am changing this so no need to try and fix it, my goal is to replace everything]

Currently, I run 2 monitors, a 24' TN Panel and a 27' IPS Panel, 1080p Gaming. My daily use consist of running a game [Etc, WOW] with 4-5 Chrome windows open, a program for the game to log performance, a voice program like Mumble or Discord or Ventrillo, Music app, and Twitch Stream via xsplit Gamecaster. Right now I get about 20 Min and like 70 Max FPS, and when I turn on twitch I have to lower settings down to 720p 30 Frames because if I do the 1080p 60 frames my system goes to 100% load and I start to get major issues on everything else. My goal is to get a system that can handle all of that and still have some juice left over for random stuff I may end up doing AT THE SAME TIME. My main thing here is simultaneous use.

I have completed a build and I really would appreciate your help, the biggest thing im just not sure on at all is the CPU. I know Skylake is great for gaming when I game, it's not the ONLY thing im doing at the same time, that's why I got a 2nd monitor. So My biggest thing is 6700k vs say 6850k?
Ill put a link to my current potential build and if you see anything wrong and can point me in the direction of the CPU please do. Money is not really an issue, I do not want to spend like stupid for no reason, if something is an upgrade though I am willing to buy it, but the it has to be an UPGRADE not just a "Cause I can" thing.

Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WY3VYr

Thank YOU!

 

[Bluesilverkt]

I forgot to mention that my goal is to move over to 1440 [2k] Gaming!

 

[Carbongrip]

Well I admit twitch broadcasting software is new to me but from what I understand is that twitch live streaming encodes video on the fly which is very cpu intensive on its own let alone while gaming. However I really think you might just get by fine with your current build if you just upgrade to an i7 4970k, you gain very valuable hyper threading for what you are doing with twitch. You have a good rig, don't dump it completely. Performance difference between an i7 4790k and a 6700k is minimal. If money is no issue then yeah you could benefit from a 6850k due to your live streaming causing you to encode video on the fly but I don't think its so bad to just upgrade you cpu to a 4790k and maybe a gtx 1070 down the road. I REALLY think a 4790k will cut it.

Update: if you are looking at 1440p, all the above still applies, but the gtx 1070 would be a requirement for 1440p. Its currently the king of 1440p. But I don't think recording live gameplay in 1440p is a very good idea, that would really mean you would need a multicore cpu along the lines of 6 physical cores to do that quick encoding for live stream at that resolution.

 

[Hlsgsz]

Get this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($193.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.84 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($196.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1920.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-07 05:31 EDT-0400

The 5820k overclocks better than the 6850k adn you will never need the extra PCIE lanes provided by the latter unless you go with more than 3 graphics cards, which Nvidia no longer supports.
You were overspending on the MB for no reason.
This is a better qulity PSU of the proper voltage for this build(even if you overclock and go for two GPUs, it'ss do just fine)
The GTX 1070 is the GPU of choice if you intend to move to 1440p.

 

[Bluesilverkt]

Hmm interesting, as I understand, gaming pretty much doesnt take up more than 1 to 2 cores, and thats why skylake is so strong since its cores run at a base of 4.0 Ghz. The 5820k base runs at 3.3 while the 6850k runs at 3.6 [wouldnt have to do so much to get it to 4.0 Ghz OC], you would still recommend that CPU? Assuming money wasnt an issue?

 

[Hlsgsz]

Hmm interesting, as I understand, gaming pretty much doesnt take up more than 1 to 2 cores, and thats why skylake is so strong since its cores run at a base of 4.0 Ghz. The 5820k base runs at 3.3 while the 6850k runs at 3.6 [wouldnt have to do so much to get it to 4.0 Ghz OC], you would still recommend that CPU? Assuming money wasnt an issue?

Yes. While on stock the 5820k will obviously underperform compared to a 6700k or 6850k, it can easily hit 4.4Ghz adn will go to 4.5-4.6 without overvolting too much. The 5820k is teh CPU to get if you are willing to do some overclocking.

 

[Carbongrip]

Hmm interesting, as I understand, gaming pretty much doesnt take up more than 1 to 2 cores, and thats why skylake is so strong since its cores run at a base of 4.0 Ghz. The 5820k base runs at 3.3 while the 6850k runs at 3.6 [wouldnt have to do so much to get it to 4.0 Ghz OC], you would still recommend that CPU? Assuming money wasnt an issue?

Not so much anymore, a lot of AAA games use 4 or more cores. Battlefield 4 and GTA V both use all 8 logical cores on an i7. So unless you are doing some old games from say 2013, you are using more than 2 cores.

 

[Bluesilverkt]

I want to start by saying I am taking your advice seriously, I am literally looking at a few 5820k prices and making a 2nd build with your recommendations, so if I reply to something with a dif option, I am just trying to cover any concerns or possibilities for the setup. That being said.

The thing I do not want to do is an extreme OC, overvolting to get 4.4-4.5 is not something I want to do and honestly an OC from 3.3 to 4.4 is pretty big. I plan on keeping my system for a while and reducing the longterm life of my CPU matters to me. My original plan was to get the 6850k at 3.6 and OC to 4.0 to match that of a 6700k for the performance. I was thinking of this so I would not be straining the CPU so much and I could rely on it to be with me for years.

I did read up on the 5820k from other sites to see what I could gather, and it is said to be a great overclocking CPU. However, I also found that the main reason why people recommend it is for the price vs benefit ratio it brings. And as someone posted in this thread, as games move on they will take up more cores for a better exp, and if I need to OC something from a base of 3.3 to anything 4.0 or above that WILL be reducing its lifespam, so the less I have to OC to meet the 4 GHz mark the better.

 

[Hlsgsz]

I want to start by saying I am taking your advice seriously, I am literally looking at a few 5820k prices and making a 2nd build with your recommendations, so if I reply to something with a dif option, I am just trying to cover any concerns or possibilities for the setup. That being said.

The thing I do not want to do is an extreme OC, overvolting to get 4.4-4.5 is not something I want to do and honestly an OC from 3.3 to 4.4 is pretty big. I plan on keeping my system for a while and reducing the longterm life of my CPU matters to me. My original plan was to get the 6850k at 3.6 and OC to 4.0 to match that of a 6700k for the performance. I was thinking of this so I would not be straining the CPU so much and I could rely on it to be with me for years.

I did read up on the 5820k from other sites to see what I could gather, and it is said to be a great overclocking CPU. However, I also found that the main reason why people recommend it is for the price vs benefit ratio it brings. And as someone posted in this thread, as games move on they will take up more cores for a better exp, and if I need to OC something from a base of 3.3 to anything 4.0 or above that WILL be reducing its lifespam, so the less I have to OC to meet the 4 GHz mark the better.

It doesn't really work like that. First of all, while OCing does in principle reduce a CPUs lifespan it'll be obsolete for a long time if and when you get issues with it. We're talking tens of years here. Thse things are practically meant to last forever.
Second, it's irrelevant how great the delta in frequency is. What matters is overvolting and heat. And you will get to a higher frequency and better performance on the 5820k without overvolting.
That being said, like i said in my forst argument, it doesn't really matter so long as there is proper coolong(this is actually the key factor), and the ddifference between a decent overclock and an extreme overclock is actually quite minimal as in 2 maybe 300Mhz. DO you need those extra 200Mhz? Well, unless you're all about bragging rights and benchmarks, no, you don't.
Plus, what you said is quite true and i took it into consideration even though i forgot to mention it: the 5820k ofeers alot bette price/performance and the price delta is way better spent on other p[arts of our system. Call it free mony, seeing as you're not sacrificing any performance.