Will it play all modern games at High/Ultra settings and can I overclock the CPU and if yes - how much. My first time using AMD and B450 Tomahawk max.
Can I get like 4.4 GHZ on all cores stablish?
Exactly. Overclocking Ryzen is mostly pointless unless you are planning to replace the CPU before too long anyhow. Personally, I'd even recommend disabling PBO and just letting the regular PB do IT'S thing.
The two 3600x systems I just built last week were hitting 4Ghz across the board with PBO disabled and the following settings enabled, for ALL cores, while running Prime95 Small FFT with AVX and AVX2 disabled.
Cool N Quiet
Core CPPC
CPPC preferred cores
Advanced/Global C-states
The extra 100-200mhz per core, to me, is probably not worth the dramatic increase in temperature and voltage because as Phaaze has mentioned, it very likely WILL lead to premature electromigration and Voltage threshold shift, both of which are probably...
Overclocking is mostly a dead endeavor. Current Gen processors for both AMD and Intel have barely any headroom for overclocking. What they WILL support, to some degree, is an overclock that consists not of actually pushing the maximum frequency but instead trying to increase the maximum all core boost speed rather than allowing it to retain it's default configuration. So in short, rather than having a CPU that can boost one core for short periods to 4.4Ghz but only having an ALL CORE boost of around 3.9Ghz, you MAY be able, maybe, to get it to a stable 4.2 or 4.3Ghz if you have a good power supply with low ripple and good voltage regulation, a pretty good cooler (Stock cooler is NOT an option) and a good motherboard.
The Tomahawk is a good board, for a budget model. The Gaming Pro carbon AC is a much better option but obviously is more expensive. It does have additional M.2 drive slots and some few other features that make it a choice worth the extra cash though.
That CPU cooler would definitely not be my first choice if you are going to try and overclock. It should however be somewhat better than the stock cooler, probably by a pretty fair 6-8Β°C margin, and definitely should be a lot quieter.
Below is my list of preferred CPU AIR coolers, also known as Heatsink fans (HSF).
Do not look here for recommendations on water/liquid cooling solutions. There are none to be found.
They are basically listed in order of preference, from top to bottom. To some degree that preference is based on known performance on similarly overclocked configurations, but not entirely. There are likely a couple of units that are placed closer to the top not because they offer purely better performance than another cooler which is below it, but potentially due to a variety of reasons.
One model might be placed higher than another with the same or similar performance, but has quieter or higher quality fans. It may have the same performance but a better warranty. Long term quality may be higher. It may be less expensive in some cases. Maybe it performs slightly worse, but has quieter fans and a better "fan pitch". Some fans with equal decibel levels do not "sound" like they are the same as the specific pitch heard from one fan might be less annoying than another.
In any case, these are not "tiered" and are not a 100% be all, end all ranking. They are simply MY preference when looking at coolers for a build or when making recommendations. Often, which HSF gets chosen depends on what is on this list and fits the budget or is priced right at the time due to a sale or rebate. Hopefully it will help you and you can rest assured that every cooler listed here is a model that to some degree or other is generally a quality unit which is a lot more likely to be worth the money spent on it than on many other models out there that might look to be a similarly worthwhile investment.
Certainly there are a great many other very good coolers out there, but these are models which are usually available to most anybody building a system or looking for a cooler, regardless of what part of the world they might live in. As always, professional reviews are usually an absolutely essential part of the process of finding a cooler so if you are looking at a model not listed here, I would highly recommend looking at at least two or three professional reviews first.
If you cannot find two reviews of any given cooler, it is likely either too new to have been reviewed yet or it sucked, and nobody wanted to buy one in order to review it plus the manufacturer refused to send samples out to the sites that perform reviews because they knew it would likely get bad publicity.
IMO, nobody out there is making better fans, overall, than Noctua, followed pretty closely by Thermalright. So if you intend to match case fans to the same brand on your HSF, those are pretty hard to beat. Of course, Corsair has it's Maglev fans, and those are pretty damn good too, but since they don't make CPU air cooling products, only AIO water coolers, they cannot join the party.
Noctua NH-D14 (Replace stock fans with NF-A14 industrialPPC 2000rpm) Noctua NH-D15/D15 SE-AM4
Noctua NH-D14 (With original fans)
Thermalright Silver arrow IB-E Extreme
Phanteks PH-TC14PE (BK,BL, OR or RD)
Cryorig R1 Ultimate or Universal
Thermalright Legrand Macho RT
Thermalright Macho X2
Deepcool Assassin III
Scythe Ninja 5
Thermalright Macho rev. C
Thermalright Macho rev.B
Thermalright ARO-M14G (Ryzen only)
Thermalright Macho direct
Scythe Mugen 5 rev.B
Deepcool Assassin II
Be Quiet Dark rock Pro 4
Noctua NH-U14S
Thermalright true spirit 140 Direct
FSP Windale 6
Scythe Mugen max
BeQuiet dark rock (3 or 4)
Thermalright Macho SBM
Cryorig H5
Noctua NH-U12S
Phanteks PH-TC14S
Phanteks PH-TC12DX (Any)
Cryorig H7
Deepcool Gammaxx 400
Cooler Master Hyper 212 (EVO, X, RGB. I'd only recommend this cooler if no other good aftermarket models are available to you.)
It may not be obvious, but is probably worth mentioning, that not all cooler models will fit all CPU sockets as aftermarket coolers generally require an adapter intended for use with that socket. Some coolers that fit an AMD platform might not fit a later AMD platform, or an Intel platform. Often these coolers come with adapters for multiple types of platforms but be sure to verify that a specific cooler WILL work with your platform before purchasing one and finding out later that it will not.
The Deepcool power supply model you have selected is moderately decent, but it is not a great selection, would definitely not be my first choice AND is a much older platform considering all of the relevant reviews (Of which there are not many, and that speaks volumes about the unit to begin with) date from back in 2014-2015. You would be very wise to consider something newer and of higher quality. That does not specifically mean any particular "brand" name because brands, all of them, have both good and crappy models. Model is the key, regardless of brand.
Below you will find MY standard list of recommended power supplies and beyond that this thread is intended as a landing place for questions or discussions regarding specific units, platforms or related PSU tech, all of which are all welcome to be discussed here. If it's related to power supplies...
In my country these coolers that you have recommended are very expensive and most of them aren't even being available. I'm planning to stay with this cooler. And if I can hit like STATIC 4.2GHZ on all core it will be so good. I don't know what are the safe voltages for 4.2GHZ everyday use. PSU's prices also got way up in my region so I dont have much choice.
Would any of these be any better:
Friend of mine have tried several coolers with 3600 (non X), here are the results:
Freezer 34 eSports (not DUO) is like 13 degrees cooler, but with stock freq.
I think i will hit like 85 degrees if i try to OC the 3600X to 4.2GHZ (maybe 4.3 but more likely not) with the Freezer 34 eSports DUO. Planning to OC the GPU as well.
Exactly. Overclocking Ryzen is mostly pointless unless you are planning to replace the CPU before too long anyhow. Personally, I'd even recommend disabling PBO and just letting the regular PB do IT'S thing.
The two 3600x systems I just built last week were hitting 4Ghz across the board with PBO disabled and the following settings enabled, for ALL cores, while running Prime95 Small FFT with AVX and AVX2 disabled.
Cool N Quiet
Core CPPC
CPPC preferred cores
Advanced/Global C-states
The extra 100-200mhz per core, to me, is probably not worth the dramatic increase in temperature and voltage because as Phaaze has mentioned, it very likely WILL lead to premature electromigration and Voltage threshold shift, both of which are probably better known as "degradation" of your CPU.
There is simply not much overhead on either Intel or AMD CPU's on current Gen platforms. They are already pushing these architectures as far as they reasonably can out of the box to really get much more out of them without something having to give somewhere.
All of those units you listed are pretty low quality. The best among them would probably be the Corsair VS series considering that the BeQuiet model listed is the older System power 9 and not the newer System power U9. Even then it wouldn't be great, but better at least than the older System power 9.
This would be a much better choice than any of those, even though it too is an older group regulated platform.
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