Building my gaming PC from scratch, need some advices!

[shepardjager]

Hi there mates! I'm new here on the community and I think is the right place to get some help on building my gaming PC since I want a decent one without spending too much money on it. So here I the thing, I live in Chile and got nothing, that means I'm gonna start building the PC from scratch, my budget is about 1200$ and I want to be able to play most recent games decently, in mid to full specs.

After some research on the web, I think a good choice of CPU to start with is a AMD Ryzen 5 1600 since it has good performance price-wise and if overclocked it an reach 1600x levels of performance. Here is where ineed some help, matching this CPU with the best possible Mbo and GPU, I think that a nice Mbo to go with the CPU is the MSI B350 gaming pro carbon, it has 4 slots for ram plus other nice features, and for the GPU id like to go with a GeForce GTX 1060 6G, although I'm not sure which one is better since there are several variants of the same model. Same with the RAMs I`m gonna get an 8GB RAM first, and a second one later to have 16GB, but there are also several brands and types of RAMs so I'm not sure which ones are the most efficient for this build up.

I also need some advice about whether to get an HHD drive or an SSD drive or both? I'm kinda new to SSD drives and how to get the best of them. Well, that's pretty much the info I got at the moment, I'm also open to new ideas of how to get the best possible build out of my budget, thanks guys.

 

[superninja12]

this is a ramdon start up, can u find similiar things?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($178.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($115.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($152.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card ($334.98 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.60 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($202.34 @ Amazon)
Total: $1273.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 10:05 EDT-0400

 

[Lucky_SLS]

cpu ryzen 2400G - https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/28205-cpu-ryzen-5-2400g-am4- 140000
mobo - MSI Gaming plus B350 - https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/25791-m-b-amd-b350-gaming-plus-am4- 89300
rams - 2x4gb ddr4 - https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/22355-ddr4-8gb-2400mhz-2x-4gb-vengeance-lpx-black- 89900
gpu - https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/23099-video-nvidia-geforce-gtx1060-6g-gddr5-amp or https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/26080-video-amd-radeon-rx-570-o4g-gaming-oc 250000 or 290000
psu - S12 620 - https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/20655-fuente-poder-620w-80-bronze-direct-output - 59990
case - deepcool kendomen atx -https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/26750-gabinete-atx-kendomen-titanium - 49990
Hdd - 1tb - https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/23627-disco-duro-1tb-sata3-7200-rpm-64mb-p300 - 34600

total - ~770000

 

[therealduckofdeath]

Looks like something very similar to what I'm eyeing at the moment, shepardjager. Though, I'm probably going for the 2nd generation Ryzen with the Ryzen 5 2600. The improvements are maybe not ground breaking but it's a 2nd gen, making it likely to be a cleaner processor design and it's a tad faster thanks to the slightly shrunk manufacturing process (12nm vs 14nm).
One thing you should be aware of with your "staged" memory upgrade plan. Don't bet on the specific memory module type you're buying today will be available later this year. The manufacturer (brand) can switch module type or even factory source at any time. For instance from Samsung to ADATA. Motherboards can have trouble finding a matching speed setting for them if they do. So, worst case scenario is that you'll have to buy the full 16GB when you decide to upgrade from 8GB. Maybe consider finding some other corner to cut to be able to buy the full 16GB now?
I have an SSD and a mechanical drive myself. SSD for anything where the performance is useful and the cheap mechanical storage for everything else. The SSD is for instance one part you can get away with buying small and cheap and "upgrading" it as you go by adding more SSD using RAID0. Personally I don't fear the risk of data loss on my c:\ drive if (or when) the RAID0 fails as my mechanical drive should be the one with the data and the most important on there is also backed up to some cloud thing on the internet super highway. A big bonus with a RAID0 made of SSD's is obviously ludicrous speed. I think, my current sequential read speed clocks in a bit over 1,500MB/s using three SSD's on SATA connections. \o/

 

[madmatt30]

^ the only issue I have with the 2600 is cost, it's $30 more than a 1600 & then another $30-40 for a 470 series board to be safe regarding bios compatibility.

 

[shepardjager]

this is a ramdon start up, can u find similiar things?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($178.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($115.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($152.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card ($334.98 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.60 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($202.34 @ Amazon)
Total: $1273.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 10:05 EDT-0400

Is this i5 better than the ryzen 5? I kinda like AMD more than Intel

 

[shepardjager]

Looks like something very similar to what I'm eyeing at the moment, shepardjager. Though, I'm probably going for the 2nd generation Ryzen with the Ryzen 5 2600. The improvements are maybe not ground breaking but it's a 2nd gen, making it likely to be a cleaner processor design and it's a tad faster thanks to the slightly shrunk manufacturing process (12nm vs 14nm).
One thing you should be aware of with your "staged" memory upgrade plan. Don't bet on the specific memory module type you're buying today will be available later this year. The manufacturer (brand) can switch module type or even factory source at any time. For instance from Samsung to ADATA. Motherboards can have trouble finding a matching speed setting for them if they do. So, worst case scenario is that you'll have to buy the full 16GB when you decide to upgrade from 8GB. Maybe consider finding some other corner to cut to be able to buy the full 16GB now?
I have an SSD and a mechanical drive myself. SSD for anything where the performance is useful and the cheap mechanical storage for everything else. The SSD is for instance one part you can get away with buying small and cheap and "upgrading" it as you go by adding more SSD using RAID0. Personally I don't fear the risk of data loss on my c:\ drive if (or when) the RAID0 fails as my mechanical drive should be the one with the data and the most important on there is also backed up to some cloud thing on the internet super highway. A big bonus with a RAID0 made of SSD's is obviously ludicrous speed. I think, my current sequential read speed clocks in a bit over 1,500MB/s using three SSD's on SATA connections. \o/

Ok i see your point, but which MB would go well with a ryzen 5 2600? and which GPU?

 

[madmatt30]

^ any gpu , the ryzen are decent gaming cpu's.

The 2600/2600x are higher clocked versions of the 1600.

The issue is to guarantee compatibility (unless you have a shop that will flash older b350 boards to the latest bios) you need an x470 board ,& there are no cheap models about at the minute.
The 2600 also comes with a worse cooler than the 1600.

 

[shepardjager]

^ any gpu , the ryzen are decent gaming cpu's.

The 2600/2600x are higher clocked versions of the 1600.

The issue is to guarantee compatibility (unless you have a shop that will flash older b350 boards to the latest bios) you need an x470 board ,& there are no cheap models about at the minute.
The 2600 also comes with a worse cooler than the 1600.

I see, and any x470 would do?? because there are the MSI, Gygabyte and ASUS models

 

[therealduckofdeath]

Yeah, the 400 series is their chipset "designed" for the second gen Ryzen. (One would think they'd thought the numbering through a bit better with such a major milestone for them )
As far as I know AMD haven't really said much about what works and what doesn't work. Which is a big problem. That's one reason I'm still in waiting mode. I don't want to pay the extra price for the X-series motherboards as I'll never run two GPU's. The B4xx motherboards should be out soon and they ought to be in the same price range as the current gen B-series.
For graphics you can pick anything you like. If budget mind is priority all the way, AMD cards does support (much) cheaper adaptive sync displays than Nvidia cards. AMD cards themselves are however suffering a lot more from the price inflation caused by crypto currency mining and anything AI in data centres. So, I can't really make any good recommendations there at the moment. Buying a GPU today is more about finding the lesser bad price...

 

[shepardjager]

Yeah, the 400 series is their chipset "designed" for the second gen Ryzen. (One would think they'd thought the numbering through a bit better with such a major milestone for them )
As far as I know AMD haven't really said much about what works and what doesn't work. Which is a big problem. That's one reason I'm still in waiting mode. I don't want to pay the extra price for the X-series motherboards as I'll never run two GPU's. The B4xx motherboards should be out soon and they ought to be in the same price range as the current gen B-series.
For graphics you can pick anything you like. If budget mind is priority all the way, AMD cards does support (much) cheaper adaptive sync displays than Nvidia cards. AMD cards themselves are however suffering a lot more from the price inflation caused by crypto currency mining and anything AI in data centres. So, I can't really make any good recommendations there at the moment. Buying a GPU today is more about finding the lesser bad price...

I see...such a hard time to build a PC haha

 

[WiiUMasterGman]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vv3bKB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vv3bKB/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.49 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid Lite 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($152.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($304.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($202.34 @ Amazon)
Total: $1210.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 15:53 EDT-0400

Boom

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Guys, he is from Chile

 

[shepardjager]

Guys, he is from Chile

Hahaha right!, partpicker it's ok to let me see some parts and compatibility, but not for pricing since local prices are different in some parts, but it's been useful still, luckily I can get most parts here, God bless capitalism! xD

 

[Lucky_SLS]

is my above post even relevant? I think that is from a pc online store in Chile.

 

[shepardjager]

is my above post even relevant? I think that is from a pc online store in Chile.

Yes it is, thanks it gave a good idea of how much is it here, sorry didn't mention it before

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ oh OK.

 

[shepardjager]

Thank you, everyone, for your help!