Hello...
It's been a while since I've been on here and am building a new system this weekend. I've built many a systems, but like anybody, one can know alot but not everything. So I'm asking for any tips on this new system in the works. Geeze it's just after 4am and besides doing other things, I've been checking out on the hardware I bought so far for it. Some h/w is from my old Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe system that took a dive last week (most likely just needs a new BIOS chip) but was ready for a new system anyways.
NEW parts-
CPU: Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition AM3/4000MHz 45NM 125W Boxed
Mobo: Gigabyte AMD Phenom II/Socket AM3/AMD-790FXTA-UD5/4DDR3-1866(OC)/3-Way Crossfire/2GBe/7.1-CH ATX (2x USB 3, 2x SATA-3 etc)
RAM: Corsair DOMINATOR 8GB (4x2GB) PC3-10666 1033MHz CAS 7-7-7-20 w/RAM Heatsink (included in the package)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advance (sweet black steel, filtered case 2010)
CPU Sink: Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus UD Contact Heat-Pipe 120mm CPU Cooler
New Drives: 2x Hitachi 2TB Deskstar SATA-2 7200-32MB Cache drives
" " : Seagate 2TB 7200 SATA-3 64MB Cache (should arrive today)
4-Pack Cooler Master 120mm Silent Case fans box set
Aditional fans or water cooling (havn't bought yet) 2-80x15 fans and/or water cooling system
OLD parts-
PSU: IN-WIN Commander 1200W PSU (love this PSU, rock hard steady +5/12v rails that to my monitoring have never dipped below rating ever, always on par or above even with a multi-loaded out system in SLI, they could eat more! These PSUs are very well made!)
GPU: eVGA nVidia GTX 295 (stuck my 2x 7800 GTX-OC's away) And could probably get another 295 for cheap/free or some new alpha/stalk CPU card because one of my good friends is a semi-big wig at nVidia.
Monitor: Samsung LCD 2232BW+ (will buy a bigger one later)
2x 1TB SATA-2 HDDs (one WD, other Seagate in eSATA+USB enclosures that will most likely go into the CM case along side the other 3x 2TB HDDs (hey! I love mass storage!! What can I say?!? )
And a plethora of other stuff; like a Logitech cordless KB+Mouse, 16x/48x (I think it is, can't recall ATM) Lite-On DVD-Lightscribe burner, 52x Lite-On combo drive burner (both IDE, and have a couple other IDE burners-an NEC Lightscribe, another Lite-On DVD Lightscribe), black floppy (doubt I'll use it), and other stuff like an XFX USB Gamepad, MS Flight Master 2 (?)-the last FF stick they made-have 2 of them, 2nd one is different than the 1st version, Thrustmaster (can't recall version, but it's fairly new-USB PC/PS3 (got it for my PS3 mainly)) stick, 3x160 IDE HDDs (have Rocket-Raid IDE to SATA converters (those little things work great)), 500GB SATA-2 Seagate, 2x SATA-2 250GB Seagates, fans-mounts-brackets/cushioners-name it, PCI-E 2 port eSATA-2 card, USB 3.0 card+2.5" SATA-2 (the SATA-3 is on the way) HDD enclosure (that I am testing for a company-not available to the public yet-sorry can't name who I'm working on this for), adjustable speed control fans and boxes upon boxes of more stuff that would drive me buggy to remember! Hey I'm a de-ah heck/programmer-tester as one of my jobs.
Since Tom's HW has been around and highly respected for so many years I thought I'd post for some input from other gurus abound first. My main questions that I can think of so early in the morn (been up all night-playing around with new stuff and my iMac & PS3) to take breaks is if you were building said system I listed, would you do these and ANY input is very much appreciated!! As I posted, we all learn from each other, and different views are most welcomed.
Q1: In this CM 690 II Advance case, like alot of newer CM and other companies' cases they allow for mounting the PSU above or below the mobo. Also they can be positioned in either dirrection.. So far all I've done is check out the parts, read some and just put the PSU in the case (below mobo, fan facing down). So it sucks air out from below the case (plenty of room below on this new 2010 CM case) and spews it out. Perhaps reversing it to suck in case air might be better? My older PC had it atop mobo in suck/spew standard configuration. ?
Q2: Planning on running the O/S (Vista x64 Ultimate SP2) for now with a fresh install on the SATA-3 HDD. Fastest drive it will be for me...and I'm thinking of partitioning it for an XP Pro dual-boot (like my dead comp's system was), and perhaps other O/S's..can do a W7, Linux/Unix etc partitions. 2TBs for a primarily system drive is huge enough, so I might as well break it down. ?
Q3: Have considered RAID with for example Raptors. But with all the problems I've heard about, why not go SCSI if one needs that speed? And SATA-3 beyond 7,200rpm drives will appear. Something to consider. I do get some access to early build HW/SW. But that's also a problem, being in early to very early stages, it really does suck to loose your array/boot drive. ??
Q4: Not sure if my CPU 212 cooler will block any of my DIMM sockets/RAM sets, especially when I'd like to use the spreader that is bundled with the Corsair RAM kit. I'd like to get into O/C'ing again for the fun of it and having such low latency RAM (7-7-7-20 8GB) is sweet. Would like to keep it cool, ya know. ?
Q5: Being that everything except the case and mobo is unsealed (PSU is not new, but about a year- old), I've just played around with positioning them in the case to look-see. Any ideas?!? PSU positioning? I kind of like it being below the mobo, thus would allow me to use if wanted later liquid cooling Much easier to set-up.
Q6: Case came with 2x 140mm fans (one in front with LED), other in the top & a 120mm in the rear. The top 140mm can be removed and replaced with 2x 120mm OR leave the 140mm and add a 120mm OR add a radiator). Bottom can support 2x 120mm or a radiator if PSU is atop mobo. Right side panel can support 2x 120mm or 2x 140mm (or combo of the 2 sizes), Left panel can house an 80x15mm fan (and off course liquid cooling), VGA holder/support can house an 80x15mm also. HDD removable/adjustable cage can house a 120mm fan to help out with the 140mm front intake (because at 90 degree setting, the 140mm won't cool the HDD stack fully). So that is basically 11 fans not including the 1 or 2 for the 212 CPU sink, or adding radiator blocks.
Thanks for any suggestions, ideas or whatever input you may want to add. It's been since around 2005 since i last custom built an O/C friendly system and am sort of out of the loop, but just reading around I think I picked my HW well enough....but everyone has different opinions, experience etc. So all ideas are welcomed!!
Thanks All!
It's been a while since I've been on here and am building a new system this weekend. I've built many a systems, but like anybody, one can know alot but not everything. So I'm asking for any tips on this new system in the works. Geeze it's just after 4am and besides doing other things, I've been checking out on the hardware I bought so far for it. Some h/w is from my old Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe system that took a dive last week (most likely just needs a new BIOS chip) but was ready for a new system anyways.
NEW parts-
CPU: Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition AM3/4000MHz 45NM 125W Boxed
Mobo: Gigabyte AMD Phenom II/Socket AM3/AMD-790FXTA-UD5/4DDR3-1866(OC)/3-Way Crossfire/2GBe/7.1-CH ATX (2x USB 3, 2x SATA-3 etc)
RAM: Corsair DOMINATOR 8GB (4x2GB) PC3-10666 1033MHz CAS 7-7-7-20 w/RAM Heatsink (included in the package)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advance (sweet black steel, filtered case 2010)
CPU Sink: Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus UD Contact Heat-Pipe 120mm CPU Cooler
New Drives: 2x Hitachi 2TB Deskstar SATA-2 7200-32MB Cache drives
" " : Seagate 2TB 7200 SATA-3 64MB Cache (should arrive today)
4-Pack Cooler Master 120mm Silent Case fans box set
Aditional fans or water cooling (havn't bought yet) 2-80x15 fans and/or water cooling system
OLD parts-
PSU: IN-WIN Commander 1200W PSU (love this PSU, rock hard steady +5/12v rails that to my monitoring have never dipped below rating ever, always on par or above even with a multi-loaded out system in SLI, they could eat more! These PSUs are very well made!)
GPU: eVGA nVidia GTX 295 (stuck my 2x 7800 GTX-OC's away) And could probably get another 295 for cheap/free or some new alpha/stalk CPU card because one of my good friends is a semi-big wig at nVidia.
Monitor: Samsung LCD 2232BW+ (will buy a bigger one later)
2x 1TB SATA-2 HDDs (one WD, other Seagate in eSATA+USB enclosures that will most likely go into the CM case along side the other 3x 2TB HDDs (hey! I love mass storage!! What can I say?!? )
And a plethora of other stuff; like a Logitech cordless KB+Mouse, 16x/48x (I think it is, can't recall ATM) Lite-On DVD-Lightscribe burner, 52x Lite-On combo drive burner (both IDE, and have a couple other IDE burners-an NEC Lightscribe, another Lite-On DVD Lightscribe), black floppy (doubt I'll use it), and other stuff like an XFX USB Gamepad, MS Flight Master 2 (?)-the last FF stick they made-have 2 of them, 2nd one is different than the 1st version, Thrustmaster (can't recall version, but it's fairly new-USB PC/PS3 (got it for my PS3 mainly)) stick, 3x160 IDE HDDs (have Rocket-Raid IDE to SATA converters (those little things work great)), 500GB SATA-2 Seagate, 2x SATA-2 250GB Seagates, fans-mounts-brackets/cushioners-name it, PCI-E 2 port eSATA-2 card, USB 3.0 card+2.5" SATA-2 (the SATA-3 is on the way) HDD enclosure (that I am testing for a company-not available to the public yet-sorry can't name who I'm working on this for), adjustable speed control fans and boxes upon boxes of more stuff that would drive me buggy to remember! Hey I'm a de-ah heck/programmer-tester as one of my jobs.
Since Tom's HW has been around and highly respected for so many years I thought I'd post for some input from other gurus abound first. My main questions that I can think of so early in the morn (been up all night-playing around with new stuff and my iMac & PS3) to take breaks is if you were building said system I listed, would you do these and ANY input is very much appreciated!! As I posted, we all learn from each other, and different views are most welcomed.
Q1: In this CM 690 II Advance case, like alot of newer CM and other companies' cases they allow for mounting the PSU above or below the mobo. Also they can be positioned in either dirrection.. So far all I've done is check out the parts, read some and just put the PSU in the case (below mobo, fan facing down). So it sucks air out from below the case (plenty of room below on this new 2010 CM case) and spews it out. Perhaps reversing it to suck in case air might be better? My older PC had it atop mobo in suck/spew standard configuration. ?
Q2: Planning on running the O/S (Vista x64 Ultimate SP2) for now with a fresh install on the SATA-3 HDD. Fastest drive it will be for me...and I'm thinking of partitioning it for an XP Pro dual-boot (like my dead comp's system was), and perhaps other O/S's..can do a W7, Linux/Unix etc partitions. 2TBs for a primarily system drive is huge enough, so I might as well break it down. ?
Q3: Have considered RAID with for example Raptors. But with all the problems I've heard about, why not go SCSI if one needs that speed? And SATA-3 beyond 7,200rpm drives will appear. Something to consider. I do get some access to early build HW/SW. But that's also a problem, being in early to very early stages, it really does suck to loose your array/boot drive. ??
Q4: Not sure if my CPU 212 cooler will block any of my DIMM sockets/RAM sets, especially when I'd like to use the spreader that is bundled with the Corsair RAM kit. I'd like to get into O/C'ing again for the fun of it and having such low latency RAM (7-7-7-20 8GB) is sweet. Would like to keep it cool, ya know. ?
Q5: Being that everything except the case and mobo is unsealed (PSU is not new, but about a year- old), I've just played around with positioning them in the case to look-see. Any ideas?!? PSU positioning? I kind of like it being below the mobo, thus would allow me to use if wanted later liquid cooling Much easier to set-up.
Q6: Case came with 2x 140mm fans (one in front with LED), other in the top & a 120mm in the rear. The top 140mm can be removed and replaced with 2x 120mm OR leave the 140mm and add a 120mm OR add a radiator). Bottom can support 2x 120mm or a radiator if PSU is atop mobo. Right side panel can support 2x 120mm or 2x 140mm (or combo of the 2 sizes), Left panel can house an 80x15mm fan (and off course liquid cooling), VGA holder/support can house an 80x15mm also. HDD removable/adjustable cage can house a 120mm fan to help out with the 140mm front intake (because at 90 degree setting, the 140mm won't cool the HDD stack fully). So that is basically 11 fans not including the 1 or 2 for the 212 CPU sink, or adding radiator blocks.
Thanks for any suggestions, ideas or whatever input you may want to add. It's been since around 2005 since i last custom built an O/C friendly system and am sort of out of the loop, but just reading around I think I picked my HW well enough....but everyone has different opinions, experience etc. So all ideas are welcomed!!
Thanks All!