[SOLVED] Building PC - Need review on specifications

[IamTommy13]

Hello!
I'm from Israel, trying to build a solid gaming PC with budget of $1-1.1k (= 3.5K NIS).
I can choose the brand of few components:

1) Motherboard: Intel B560 Asus vs. Gigabyte

2) RAM: KINGSTON vs. CRUCIAL vs. HYNIX vs. GSKILL 8192MB 2666MHZ DUAL DDR4

3) SSD: Any major differences between NVMe and SATA?

4) GPU: I'm interested in Nvidia Geforce GTX 1650 4GB (default one). Is there any differences between the cards (Gigabyte, MSI, Asus etc...). I'm aware of the fact the some cards come with one fan while others got two fans.

General Questions
5) RAM: Is 2666 MHZ enough for 2021 games? Is it enough or 3200/3600 is a must?

6) CPU: I'm planning to get Intel i5 6x 11400F 2.6GHz 12MB LGA1151 64 BIT. If I'm not wrong - 11400F means the pc won't have regular display option. How much should I be concerned from it? For example if my GPU suddenly does problems? Is it worth to get that CPU?

Just for comparison:
I can purchase this PC for $983
Thank you all!

 

[jeremyj_83]

What is this going to be used for (ie gaming, school work, etc..), what country are you from, and what is your budget in local currency?

 

[IamTommy13]

What is this going to be used for (ie gaming, school work, etc..), what country are you from, and what is your budget in local currency?

Edited my post, thanks.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Edited my post, thanks.

A GTX 1650 is would be for a low end 1080p 60FPS at medium quality GPU in most more recient and demanding titles. Ideally for gaming you would want a 1660 Super or faster. Problem is graphics cards are VERY expensive right now so you will easily spend $400 on a $150 card.

For the CPU that is a good choice just be sure you have a decent cooler as the current Intel CPUs run hot.

For the RAM you should aim for 16GB DDR4-3200.

There isn't much price difference between NVMe and SATA SSD anymore so going NVMe is best idea.

B560's are a good choice for motherboards.

The prebuilt you linked has a sketchy Power Supply. The Antec Atom V550 is difficult to find any information on it. When I did see the side sticker, it isn't a 550W PSU as the 12V only does 504W and the 3.3V is 120W. That is what we would have seen on platforms from 12 years ago. Not to mention it doesn't even have enough efficiency to make 80+ White....so the internal componenets are probably bottom of the barrell.

 

[Why_Me]

case

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exhaust fan for that case

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board

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cpu

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cpu cooler

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ram

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ssd

https://www.zap.co.il/compmodels.aspx?modelid=1001364

gpu

https://1pc.co.il/product-105140-TU...TX_1650_Asus_TUF_Gaming_4GB_GDDR6_Retail.aspx

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[sonofjesse]

If you do some quick searches you can find a lot, of information.

1. cruical 3600mhz cl16
2. yes, NVME
3. good luck GPU hard to find
4. see number 2.
5. go with the best CPU you can afford.

 

[Karadjgne]

SkHynix is an OEM and makes ram that can be used in Crucial, Kingston and Gskill, Corsair, Adata, HP, pick any brand. Most ram really isn't too much different, it's mostly in the die itself and timings used.

The 11000 series is fully capable of OC ram use, so no real point handicapping yourself with 2666MHz when 3200MHz is generally roughly the same price, if not cheaper with sales competition. 3200/14 is realistically no different to 3600/16, 3200/16 is the same as 3600/18, the higher the Cas (CL or 1st number) the cheaper the ram. Ram speeds have more affect on AMD systems, but upto a point still do affect Intel performance in a lot of situations. The difference between 3200MHz and 4000MHz is very minor, the difference between 2666MHz and 3200MHz is considerably larger in comparison. Diminishing returns generally make uber fast ram not worth the huge price tag for Intels. 3200/16 or 3600/18 is best value for the money.

A pcie NVME Gen3 is roughly 2x faster than a Sata SSD (m.2 or 2½ is same thing, different shape). Sata SSD is roughly 5x faster than hdd. For gaming only, there's not much difference between NVME and Sata, both are faster than the cpu can handle, especially with the small file sizes games use. NVME is best used with large files, like used in photoshop and 4k work etc.

Stick with asus, Gigabyte low rank boards are not that good, even if their highest rank are really good.

For the price difference, I'd always take the cpu with igpu. You'll never know when you'll ever need it. It's seriously cheap insurance should the gpu go bunk. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Above a certain point, brand doesn't matter in gpus, a asus 1650 will perform the same as a gigabyte, give or take a frame or two. It's the models themselves that matter more, so be careful what you look at. A Evga FTW 1650 might be top of the line, get awesome performance, and cost a small fortune, but at the end of the day it's still a 1650 and not as good as a bottom ranked msi or asus dual 1660 that might be cheaper.

Fans have a purpose. The single fan units are smaller in size, purpose built for smaller form factor cases where gaming performance isn't the priority. Dual/triple fans cover a larger heatsink area, bigger cards, better cooling so are built more for gaming loads. The best and most expensive models will have the best cooling capability. In general.

 

[jeremyj_83]

SkHynix is an OEM and makes ram that can be used in Crucial, Kingston and Gskill, Corsair, Adata, HP, pick any brand. Most ram really isn't too much different, it's mostly in the die itself and timings used.

I doubt Crucial would use SKHynix RAM chips. Remeber Crucial is owned by Micron and is Micron's consumer level products. Corsair on the other hand would use SKHynix chips.

 

[Karadjgne]

Yes, crucial is microns consumer brand, however if they need to fill a certain order, and it's cheaper for micron to outsource the ram instead of buying silicon at a more expensive price, they do.

Not to say they do it all the time, it's a rare occasion, but it's happened before. Gskill used only Samsung b, d, a and Z die in their Trident-Z and RipJaws V, when 3200 was king, but with Samsung concentrating fabs on 4000+ now, new trident and RipJaws V are mostly SkHynix.

It's all a money thing, whomever has the amount of silicon, at the necessary quality and cheapest price, gets the contract.