Buy new GPU for 1080p gaming only.!

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Hello i need fast New GPU... im on buget so i cant afford GTX 1070, or 1080.

gtx 1060 right now is around 420euro in my country and its FE.


So right now my system is:

cpu:i5-4690k 3.5GHz
mb: msi z97 gaming 3
gpu: gtx 650 ti (1gb vram)
hdd: 1TB
psu: cheap 30$ 600w (codegen)

so i was playing Need For Speed 2016, and i cant even play it ,without FPS drops. from 35-40 to 10-7-20-and so on...

i was thinking buying

MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V
or
Radeon RX 480 8GB

and for powersupply i was looking at

Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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one thing i dont like AMD cards, but that RX 480 is almost same price as 970.. and 4GB vs 8GB .. the only thing AMD... is it really that bad??
 
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Seriously? That PSU is ok for cheap system but absolute junk compared to the Corsair RMx he wants.

@EvooHD The 1060, 970, and RX 480 should all do 1080p at max with no problem at all. The advantage of the RX 480 over the GTX 970 is with DX 12 its shown to perform better in many games, also with 8gb of ram it allows for max details in any game (some games will not allow everything with only 4gb, DOOM for example). The RX 480 with that PSU will work excellently. My whole system barely touches 400 watts under load with mine so...


you think GTX 970 for 1080p gaming is not enough for new days games? and the Forza Horizon 3?
Im hater of AMD, but well if i need to choose from money then.. i guess AMD ..

The one thing about AMD
*Hoter
*More TDP power.

i really want gtx 1060, but its little bit price high.
GTX 970 4gb looking good for NFS 2016, Battlefield 1, already watched so many videos , but its still 3.5/4 (bad joke) but its great card i think..

Well its hard to choose. my buget is around the RX 480 and GTX 970 price 340-360euro.
 


Seriously? That PSU is ok for cheap system but absolute junk compared to the Corsair RMx he wants.

@EvooHD The 1060, 970, and RX 480 should all do 1080p at max with no problem at all. The advantage of the RX 480 over the GTX 970 is with DX 12 its shown to perform better in many games, also with 8gb of ram it allows for max details in any game (some games will not allow everything with only 4gb, DOOM for example). The RX 480 with that PSU will work excellently. My whole system barely touches 400 watts under load with mine so with a good 550w PSU you have plenty of headroom and efficiency.
 
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The reason I suggested a 480 is because it beats the 970 in a lot of games and performs better in Dx 12 titles. But the 970 is still a good option
 


It is a low end PSU, it will work fine however it is far lower quality and efficiency than the one he selected. It has a lot of poor characteristics for systems that are high power draw and especially if he plans to overclock (which with a k processor it would be nice to be able to do) so recommending he replaces one of the best PSUs available with a PSU that is hovering around middle to low (but still better than the junk he has) is bad advice.
 
Thank you both for great answers. I will sit and just think about mybe getting 480, or waiting for 1060, even if im getting 970 i will be still happy because of junk i have gtx 650 ti 1gb , it will be big jump. Cheers. :)
 


http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/16/evga_500b_500w_power_supply_review/9#.V5lUU0YrLnA
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/500B/11.html

Like I said its not bad for a low end unit, but its low efficiency, not haswell sleep state ready, and has poor ripple suppression which is important for solid overclocking. Will it work? yes. Is it bad advice to recommend this over one of the best quality units on the market? YES
 

Still a good choice to me from what I've been able to achieve. But hey we all have different opinions
 


The last time I saw them was the last time I bought a new PSU. Which was about 2-3 weeks ago
 


The B1 units being underperformers that use second tier caps and have some interesting design issues as well as less than desirable build quality is a fact, not an opinion. A sample of one, meaning, just because you've used one and your system didn't explode or catch on fire, and the PSU didn't immediately fail, does not by any stretch of the imagination magically make the B1 units suitable or recommendable for use with systems that will incorporate gaming cards or overclocking of the CPU or GPU card to any legitimate degree.

Bottom line is, they're ok for mainstream systems, and in a pinch you could use them with a gaming card as a stopgap temporary measure if it was absolutely necessary, but it would still be highly recommended that you replace it with a higher quality unit that is capable of continuously supplying it's rated power at the higher 40°C testing temperature and incorporates higher end tier one Japanese capacitors. Units using tier 2 caps on gaming machines that will be under extended loads a good amount of the time don't tend to last much past a year or two, if that.

No way, ever, that the B1 unit should be brought up in a conversation that started with the intent to use an exceptional unit like the RMx. Further, having worked with hardware in this industry for more than 25 years and working with and around overclocked systems for much of that time to some degree or another, there's no way in the world I'd ever say that unit was suitable for use with any overclocked system. It just is not. It is by far not one of the worst units out there, but I'd never recommend it for a system that was either overclocked or using a discreet gaming card requiring PCI supplemental power, much less one with both.

Especially when for ten bucks more you could easily get a vastly better Seasonic or XFX unit of really decent quality.

 

I've used this PSU in 2 rigs. I never said that just cause I've used them they aren't bad I've said that I've used them in rigs and have seen nothing but good reviews about it. Still you're even hearing it from someone and you're still refusing it. Just get over it the PSU isn't bad at all in any way. For example I've used this thing in a rig with high end GPUs and no bottleneck no problem. Still a reliable cheap option that works perfectly fine.
 
PSUs don't cause bottlenecks, they clip out and cause crashes. Like I said I'm sure it works fine, I sometimes even recommend it for low end builds. However the numbers do not lie. You've used one and got lucky, but multiple sources have tested it, and multiple users have had issues with it.

So I am glad it worked for you, however, again, recommending it over one of the best PSUs on the market is bad advice.
 


"You got lucky" Sure whatever. You can stay reading the numbers while I actually have the product and can give a review about it. And when I said bottleneck I meant it doesn't give me any problems at all. So I guess I've gotten "lucky" twice. I'm bout to get lucky a third time when I make a new build in a couple months.
 


That's why I always say store reviews are terrible for judging products accurately. Too often junk gets highly rated for that fresh out of the box feeling, while good products get lost because too many people fail to read the directions prior to installation.
 


Do you have the semi-modular B2 unit or the 500B? The B2 units are the same as the highly rated G2/P2/T2 Super Flower units. The 500B series are made by HEC which is a tier 4 / tier 5 vendor.
 
@G-unit, The B2 units are not the same as the G2 and P2 units. B2 units are Golden green platform. G2 and P2 units are Leadex.

@Mike, there are still people who insist smoking is good for you, especially methol cigarettes, like they used to advertise back in the WW days, and just because some of THEM haven't died yet doesn't change the fact that smoking is bad for you. This isn't much different. And using the unit in two machines, and not having a problem, proves nothing. There are many factors involved. You could have received an exceptional example of the unit that is not representative of the series as a whole. As always, a sample of one is not representative of it's quality or fitness for a particular use. You could have a lower end card or not be pushing the performance of the unit. You could have an extremely low ambient temperature that unlike my people's environments, does not require that the unit operate in warmer temperatures.

You are probably also not running a full time CPU overclock or a GPU card overclock of any significant amount.

An 8.3 JG score is pretty low when you consider units like the B2, G2, RMx, etc., regularly achieve scores more like 9.2-9.7 and that other sites have also shown internal build quality issues on those units. I don't think I could ever recommend long term use of a unit that uses second tier caps in a system that employs a discreet gaming card of mid to high level caliber. It simply won't last as long and there are better options for the same price or a few bucks more. Argue all you like, it doesn't change the facts.

@Slumy, 80plus ratings have ZERO to do with the quality of the unit. They only reference the units efficiency, or in plain terms, how much of the power it uses is wasted as heat versus how much it does not waste of what it converts from the wall. As we have discussed many times in the PSU tier list, there are many bronze, silver and gold, even a few platinum units, that aren't very good and some that are outrageously bad. 80plus is not a scoring system for PSU quality or performance. It's for efficiency ONLY.

Why 80plus is irrelevant:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/#.VCs8dul0xhE


Fake 80plus badges:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/power-supplies-with-fake-80-plus-badges/
 


I read the reviews online...
 
Online user reviews? Those are not worth a grain of salt. If the thing plugs in and turns on and has all its parts its rare it gets a bad review.

Like I said, its good enough for a basic PSU. Its not up to the quality standards needed for heavy overclocking and powerful GPUs.

I will take the word of a reviewer with real testing equipment that figured out these things over some user reviews from folks who probably don't know much any day of the week. If you don't, glad it works for you, hope you don't damage anything when your luck runs out.
 
@darkbreeze Why are you assuming all those things? I am running a full time overclock at 4.6 ghz 1.3v. I don't think a gtx 980 is a lower end card do you? My cooling consist of an evo 212 and one case fan. Stop assuming everything.
 
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