Buy new pc now or i have to wait?

mikegr

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Hey there, i wanted to build a gaming pc that cost around 2.500 euros but i dont know if i have to wait the next gen or to buy it now.
The build that thinking to buy is that.

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Mobo: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
RAM: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Hard Disk: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive x2 OR one SSD and one caviar blue WD at 1T.
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Monitor: Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor

I want this computer for gaming at 1080p / 60 fps and to play VR games. I still looking for a case, gaming gear like keyboard, mouse etc.

Its a good time to buy an expensive computer like this or i have to wait the next gen or intel proccesors?
I already have a gaming computer but i have 8 years already and its completely outdate.

I want your opinions about my build and if its a good time to buy it now or to wait. I dont know if these parts are compability to each other, if something not right please let me know to change it or look for a different part to buy.
Thank you.


 
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3000 is fine with 7700k. 2400 is the base limit and if you have a z270/z370 board, there is no point getting lower speeds, since you have the XMP profile as well as the price difference is not minimal. Since you mentioned same price, its better to go with 3000 than 2400.
Good part choices overall. But since the 8700k is better in every way and will last you longer, its better to buy/wait 8700k depending on your location. I would say, since you have waited this long to upgrade its just a few more days/weeks before availability of the new gen. is rampant.
One thing you need to consider though is that its going to cost you bit more than the 7700k. Also change the cooler to Cryorig H7, as its better in similar price range. And get the G3 version of the PSU as its on a more recent platform and compliments the new gen. platform better. Even 650w should be fine for that build.
 

liamhoyle1211

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The 8700k is barely better for the price, fps and processing benchmarks only show minimum improvement. Also the 8700k is a whole different type of socket, 1151 300 series, so you would have to select a different motherboard and rebuild your rig around it. I'd say go for it now. I checked out the specs and your motherboard supports the RAM. However, the i7 7700k only supports DDR4-2133/2400, DDR3L-1333/1600 RAM, so you should pick up 2400 RAM. You could technically buy the 3000 speed, but you would need to do some BIOS work to clock it at 2400, which is a waste of money and time. Besides that flaw it looks like a great build!
 


You need to upgrade yourself here... http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3529443/intel-coffee-lake-8th-generation-megathread-faq-resources.html
TLDR, it has 5% better single core improvement and around 50% better multicore improvement over 7700k. It is consistently beating the 7700k on most of the gaming benchmarks.
The socket is same(lga1151), the chipset is different (z370 instead of z270). He can just pick up the Asus Z370 E Gaming instead of the z270 board. There is nothing to rebuild around it.
Higher RAM is beneficial in overclocking and non gaming workloads. There is nothing much to do as the board comes with XMP profile.

Edit: The major part is, games are moving towards higher cores and thats why the chip makers are moving to higher cores. The 8700k comes with 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads which is going to last much longer than the 7700k.
 

mikegr

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Thank you both for your answers. I look around and i found these things.
Cryorig H7 is a beast cooler and very quite, at least thats how they rate it in my country so i like it.
About PSU i am not sure if g3 is worth, i plan to overclock some things and i need those 750 watts.
About memory you are right, 3000 is too much for 7700k. I found a 2400 memory with only 10 CAS and thats better than 3000 with 15 CAS.
The big problem is CPU, i want 8700k but i read some very strange rates about these CPU on my country, i have to wait few weeks after their release i quess to choise my CPU.

So after your help i am between these builds.

1.
CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (H7)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Mobo: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
RAM: Corsair - Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Hard Disk: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive x2 OR one SSD and one caviar blue WD at 1T.
Power Supply: EVGA - EVGA Supernova 750 G3
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Monitor: Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor

2.
A build with 8700k CPU.

I will wait few weeks when 8700k release and then i will be back with the second build to compare them together and choise the best.
Again thanks both of you for your advises, you really help me already to find 3 better, and same priced, parts to make my build even better and stronger.
 
3000 is fine with 7700k. 2400 is the base limit and if you have a z270/z370 board, there is no point getting lower speeds, since you have the XMP profile as well as the price difference is not minimal. Since you mentioned same price, its better to go with 3000 than 2400.
 
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