Buying: 2800+ 64 or 2.8HT(Northwood)?

nadkoolio

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I'm building a new computer and am either going to get the Athlon 64 2800+ or the 2.8C (Northwood) Processor. Which would offer me better performance if I overclocked them both? How about one year down the road when there are more 64-bit apps, would the Athlon shine then? (I use Linux). My budget is around $1000, I dunno if waiting a little bit of time would help anything or not. Any suggestions are welcome.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by nadkoolio on 06/16/04 09:07 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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What do you primarily use it for?

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If you are into gaming more than anything else then by all means the 2800+. If you are into app processing and compulation then the northwood is your bag.

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Laws of Physics state that the overclocked Northwood will beat the 2800+ like a red-headed stepchild! No contest. The P4 will be a lot more expensive though, all things considered. An overclocked 2500+ or 2600+ or a mobile will give you more value at 2.2ghz+ than the 2800+. :smile:

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He's talking about Athlon64 2800+.

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Yeah, soory, I forgot to mention I was talking about the Athlong 64 2800+. I'm not much of a PC Gamer, the only games I plan on playing in the nar future are Halo 2 and Gran Turismo 4. Though I do power use the PC pretty extensively, and would expect to be able to play a new game if I wanted to under decent settings.
 

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ok do you do anyhting like encode video or render images in 3D? basically what seperates ahtlon 64 from the p4 is gaming/compiling better on athlon 64 and 3D rendering/Encoding better ont he p4, although audio and video encoding are about 50/50 amd and intel since some apps favor one or the other.

as far as overclocking, you can attain a higher overclock overall with the p4, but the oc you can hit with the ahtlon 64 would probably be enough to keep it in the lead for its strengths. it depends what you want to use it for.
 

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No video encoding or 3D image rendering. I do compile quite often, since I use linux, I'm often compiling kernels, programs from source code, etc.

I think from what I've heard and read, I'll get the Athlong 64 2800+. If the P4 has an advantage right now, I doubt I'm going to notice it. The Athlon will compile better and get even better with more 64 bit programs coming out and will be better for playing games if I want to.

Let me know if there is any flaw with my reasoning or is I should wait for something spectacular that's going to come out soon. (and be affordable)

Thanks.
 

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well no your right, compiling will be faster on the ahtlon 64, so fine choice there. also depending on the linux distro you use, you can make use of 64bit now. i use gentoo and compile in linux alot under 64bit that way.
 

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I encode video all the time on my a64. It encodes alot better than my old p4 2.2. But then again. I didn't have ht. I kind of found myself in the same position as this guy but i decided it was better for me to go with the a64 because I do alot of gaming. And also i like to look forward to 64-bit software. I hope they put out a 64-bit version of premiere.

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Plus, anyway, who cares if your movie takes an extra 30 seconds to encode, it's still high quality, but if your game runs at 10 less FPS.. that sucks.

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Laws of Physics state that the overclocked Northwood will beat the 2800+ like a red-headed stepchild!



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if i could go back to 3 months ago, i would have saved up for an extra 3 weeks and gotten a 3000+ A64, rather than my AthlonXP-Mobile.

even tho it will run 2.5ghz @ 1.75v (dont like takign it higher on air, gets hot), prime95 stable, it only benches about as fast as a P4 3.2C, and for multimedia apps the 3.2C still owns me. of course in gaming, im somewhat slightly faster.. not bad for a 130$ chip, but still that A64 would be nicer :(

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