Build Advice Buying a new PC ?

[omer168]

Hey, I am going to buy a new PC very soon and I am going to use it mostly for unity, gaming
This is the specs that I built https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HwT6DZ
The RTX 3090 I already have from my old pc I don't want to upgrade (planning to upgrade to RTX 5000)
I already have ram and storage (bought them at a very good sale)
I am not sure if should I go for intel on amd (the prices are a bit the same
because :
amd -

1. Ability to upgrade the cpu so if I want in the future
2. lower power usage

intel -

1. better performance
2. high power usage (because electricity cost is a bit high in the country that I live)
3. can't upgrade anymore

what do you think?
Thank you

 

[Order 66]

I would go with AMD solely for the fact that not only do they use less power, they are also easier to cool as a result. Not to mention the 3090 is still capable of running pretty much every game at 4k ultra 60+ fps. (except starfield) Not to mention better upgradeability with AM5 vs LGA 1700.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Some edits:

You dont really need a 360AIO for ryzen. it is not as power hungry as Intel. A good air cooler would do.

The below aircooler is one of the best and has a digital temp readout.

Dont really need X670E. the B650E has pcie 5.0 M.2 slot and good VRMs and wifi 6E

Diminishing returns after 6400 mhz in rams. No point in shelling out the premium for 7200 mhz

2tb SSD so it wont fill fast.

Case has front panel type C and included ARGB fans

PSU is tier A with 10 years warranty, ATX 3.0 and 16 pin connector.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($551.51 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 DIGITAL 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650E PG RIPTIDE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: OLOy Blade RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 520 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP v2 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Thermalright TL-C12C-S 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($13.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1517.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-20 04:17 EDT-0400

 

[Misgar]

I agree you won't benefit much from a 360mm AIO. I use a Noctua NH-D15 and my 7950X doesn't exceed 90C on 36-hour long video rendering runs.

I'm using an Asus Prime X670F WiFi because I wanted three NVMe slots, 1.) OS+prorams, 2). Adobe scratch, 3). Work-in-progress. The mobo also feeds 5 HDDs and an optical drive.

I switched off the WiFi on the Asus mobo and instead use an Asus XG-C100C 10Gigabit RJ45 Ethernet card.

Where I live, 1kW/hr of electricity costs the equivalent of US $0.63. With an RTX3060, I've measured 350W power consumption, when the CPU and GPU are maxed out during rendering.

Your RTX3090 (350W) will obviously use more power than my RTX3060 (170W max), so I estimate your proposed system will max out around 540W.

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($299.95 @ B&H)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.43 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($135.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Video Card
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 77.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1459.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-20 05:48 EDT-0400

 

[omer168]

I agree you won't benefit much from a 360mm AIO. I use a Noctua NH-D15 and my 7950X doesn't exceed 90C on 36-hour long video rendering runs.

I'm using an Asus Prime X670F WiFi because I wanted three NVMe slots, 1.) OS+prorams, 2). Adobe scratch, 3). Work-in-progress. The mobo also feeds 5 HDDs and an optical drive.

I switched off the WiFi on the Asus mobo and instead use an Asus XG-C100C 10Gigabit RJ45 Ethernet card.

Where I live, 1kW/hr of electricity costs the equivalent of US $0.63. With an RTX3060, I've measured 350W power consumption, when the CPU and GPU are maxed out during rendering.

Your RTX3090 (350W) will obviously use more power than my RTX3060 (170W max), so I estimate your proposed system will max out around 540W.

Thank you
so should I go with amd because of the low power usage?
+ the 7950x will be good for productivity and some gaming?

 

[Misgar]

There's only 50W difference between the 7950X and the 13900K or thereabouts, so there won't be much saving in electricity costs. However the AMD chip is slightly easier to cool than the Intel chip (200W vs 250W).

Either CPU would be a good choice, but there might be easier upgrade options in the future with the AMD platform.

The 13900K is faster in Adobe Premiere Pro than the 7950X. See if you can find benchmark results for your most important apps and use the results as a guide to your final choice.

I ended up with the 7950X, despite the fact the 13900K would have been slightly faster. The main reason was because my choice of case would have been more difficult to cool with the Intel beast. There was nowhere to fit an AIO and I prefer the Noctual NH-D15.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ intel 14900k review by gamer nexus showed it pulled 340W in blender iirc. 13900k is similar.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MvvCr-thM8

 

[Misgar]

Mea culpa. Serves me right for just looking at the standard quoted figure of 253W for the 13900K. When you start pushing the chip, it consumes far more power.

This graph from TechPowerUp shows 283W stock and 413W for a heavily overclocked 13900K in Blender, but you'd need a pretty big cooler or better still a chiller. Goodness knows what the 14900K will pull - 450W?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-13900k/22.html