NoodlezNightmare

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Hi.

My girlfriend is planning to buy a new desktop from alienware and being the tech nut, I've been checking out stuff to see if her setup is gonna go smoothly.

She's planning on getting a 750w psu, and I decided to check out a "PSU calculator" to see if it would cut it. After putting in her specs, the total came to 763w.

Is this a huge deal? Would a 750w be sufficient still? The only other choice is a 1000w.

Her planned specs:

PCU:
AMD® Phenom™ X4 9950 Black Edition Quad Core 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache

GPU:
Single 2GB GDDR5 ATI® Radeon® HD 4870 X2

RAM:
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 1024MB

Motherboard:
AMD® 790FX Motherboard

HDD:
500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache

Addition things include a:

High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Card
&
a 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW) Drive

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks


 

Zenthar

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What PSU calculator did you use, because for the given specs, the 763W seems high? If a calculator gives you 763W, I wouldn't go under 800W.

But from the spec you gave me, I would have expected ~650W from a calculator, not >750W.

BTW, get 4GB of RAM, not 2GB, get a 64 bit OS, get a Phenom 2, check how much it would cost to build that yourself vs alienware...
 

battlemarz

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How much does Alienware quote for that? I'm curious as to how much you could save doing it yourself. Also, do you know the brand of the PSU? That is just as important as the wattage.

You probably don't need the audio card either, any decent motherboard these days have great audio on board.
 

Zenthar

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+1 on that, my last audio card was one I bought with my AMD Athlon 1GHz about 8 years ago :p.
 

xthekidx

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A 750w PSU is fine for that system if its a good quality built one, at full load that system wouldn't use more that 450w. Honestly though alienware charges more for their PC's than any other manufacturer, you would probably pay half of what you are paying for that PC if you built it yourself, and you would have more control of the components you put in it. I can't believe they are still using the 9950 BE...that CPU sucks, especially for a gaming PC. Its slow and HOT. Phenom II X4 940 FTW going with AMD.
 

waynec121

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+1 on xthekidx's suggestion. Phenom II X4 940 would be a much better cpu.

What was the budget on the system you were looking at from alienware?

Building it yourself would be alot more beneficial. You can choose the parts, save a lot of cash, and get better components for your money! It really is not that hard to build a computer either, if you get stuck you can always just post on here, there is always someone who knows what they are doing on here to help you out! :D
 

xthekidx

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To this point we have been pretty negative about your proposed build lol. Tell us what you want for this rig and what your budget is. We will build a better computer for cheaper, I guarantee it. Then you can decide if you want to assemble it yourself (which is not that hard, everyone thinks it will be horrible until they do it and then they realize its easy), or if you don't feel up to it, just take it to a local shop and pay them $60 or so to put it together for you once you get the parts. You will still end up with a better PC with higher quality products for less than what Alienware will charge you, I guarantee it.
 

xthekidx

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I played around with the configurator on the alienware website and made as close an approximation to your setup as I can...over $1800. LOL. They are making 100% profit on those components, perhaps more charging at that price. Honestly for that much you can build an i7 with a 4870x2 and have cash to spare for a nice big monitor. Interestingly enough though they offer the GTX 295 for $50 cheaper than the 4870x2, which is a better GPU...

Do yourself a favor, do not buy from Alienware. We can do SO much better.
 


If you have any plans of marrying this girl...think twice. If she's buying from Alienware now god only knows how she's going to blow money later on.
 

xthekidx

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Lol. Lets hope its just due to ignorance.
 

EyesOnMidnight

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I'll add my voice to the chorus of people calling for you to build your own system. :)
Heck, maybe even build it together with her, it'll be a great photo op.

I bought a system from Alienware when I was starting college (studying digital animation and film production). It was a fantastic computer, and it should have been, because it cost me ~ $3200. Once I found out how much I spent, how much I could have built it for myself (right about 1800-2000), and how much it was worth in three years, I decided then and there to learn how to build my own systems and never looked back. I definitely get the allure of the boutique system builders, but it'll feel so much better building it with your (or her!) own hands and getting Igor to pull the switch to wake it up. :)

I just went in and put together a test build for 4,000 on their ALX lineup (you can't even pick the i7 920, they force you to choose from the 940 or 965) and I came up with a comparable system for right around 1700 less on New Egg. That's a whole lot of premium they make people pay for a light show and acoustic dampening.
 

xthekidx

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Ok so since I'm bored I am going to show you what I would do with that $1800

Case and PSU: CM Storm Sniper and Corsair 850tx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.176943

Motherboard: P6T Deluxe V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131365&Tpk=P6T%20deluxe%20v2

CPU and CPU Cooler: i7 920 and Noctua NH-U12P SE1366
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.163998

Ram: 6gb OCZ Platinum
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381

Video Card:Saphire 4870x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102768

HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

DVD Drive: LG
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152

Shipping included that comes to $1675. That system wipes the floor with that POS alienware.

If you wanted to spend the same amount of money as that alienware, then this is what I would upgrade to:
CPU and GPU: EVGA GTX 285 and i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.173994
anther GPU for SLI: EVGA GTX 285
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130442
CPU cooler: Scythe Mugen 2
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/scythe-mugen-2-cpu-cooler---scmg-2000.html

Total of those changes comes to about $1950 with shipping included. Then you get $80 MIR back, grand total of $1870. This build would crush that POS alienware, they would probably charge you over $3500 for the same thing.
 

JaredAudiophileGamer

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Haha amen brotha +1
 

JaredAudiophileGamer

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Couldn't have put it better myself, beautiful rig there thekid.
 

sid_nag17

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+1 for the xthekidx

and to the topic creator.... dude plz tell your gal to build her own system ull be paying more for some led fans and some alien stickers and why the hell is she going for the 9950be???? get the phenom II dude brilliant performance at a very reasonable price!!

think about it
 


Why even get an AMD when you can get an i7 ? Look at it this way....if you had the money would you rather be driving a volkswagon bug, or a Ferrari ? AMD's are for poor people, and if she's buying from Alienware, then we know she can obviously afford an i7 rig.
 

xthekidx

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Ok now I'm going to show you what you could build that system for you are looking at from alienware if you did it yourself.

HDD: $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

Mobo: $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131361

CPU: $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103291

Ram: $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148235

Optical: $24
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152

PSU/Case:$190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.176939

GPU: $400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102768

Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit: $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

Total including Shipping and rebates: $1004. This is including a better Power supply, case, and most likely better motherboard than you would get in that system. Do you feel like you are getting ripped off yet?
 

EyesOnMidnight

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The branding must mean a lot to some people, because wow... 4870x2 for $550 over the included 9800 GT... I feel that one all the way over here.