News Cablemod recalls its 16-pin GPU power adapters due to fire hazard — over $74,500 in property damage claims so far

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Here is my repost from a similar story from June 15, 2023:

"As power systems designer, it would cause me great concern to see the number of failures that are happening if this were my design. The typical warranty calls for most products will reflect a small number of actual field failures, as there are probably very many more and people are not reporting them. I have seen this many times over my career.

I took a look at the Molex Mini-Fit connectors that are similar to the actual one being used and found the spec for the 12 pin part. For 600W on a 12VDC system, you will need 8.33A per pin - if they all share perfectly. They won't, and a good designer plans for some redundancy to account for that. For instance, even in the NEC electrical code, they derate wires if operated in parallel. Connectors are done the same way, but with even more derating needed.

Connector vendors also play spec games and will list the maximum current per pin for a single or minimum pin housing for good marketing exposure. If you plan to use more than that 1 or 2 pins for high current, you should always derate depending upon the vendor recommendations - check the specs. This is nearly universal on power connectors and where many design engineers get into trouble when using power connectors.

In the spec chart on the Molex part, they recommend derating to 5.5A per pin with the 12 pin configuration. The derating has many factors including contact pin resistance spread (how well they will share), as well as the thermal profile of the connector housing. The pins toward the center of the housing get the most thermal stress since they get heat from both sides.

There are many design factors external to the connector that effect the reliability. One is the PCB design: did they put agressive thermal reliefs into the copper artwork? This can generate added local heating (just like using too small of a wire into a connector). Thermal reliefs are used to help with soldering and usually look like a wheel spoke pattern. Another factor is the typical humidity in the operating environment, which effects the speed of metal oxidation for the contact metals. If the connector environment also has high vibration, then the contacts can undergo fretting failure from the contacts rubbing which slowly eats the outer plating and exposes the metal underneath (usually copper). Depending upon the contact and housing designs, this might not need much vibration to dramatically accelerate this. Think about cooling fans, water pumps, and other rotating devices in a computer case.

On my past designs, I have performed thermal tests on critical power connectors like this to check the inside pins are not getting uncomfortably hot. Before the crimped pin is inserted into the housing, I would attach a thermocouple as close as I could to the contact area on the crimp pin. And choose a contact that is by the center of the connector. Bake the system until it reaches thermal steady state. The connector housing should not be anywhere close to the maximum rated temperature.

The 8.33A rating per pin needed in this application needs some inspection. And I don't believe blaming the user is a reasonable action. People are not responsible and criticized for the plug on their hairdryer for instance. It is expected to work, and safely."
 
What is ignored completely is the lack of coordination of the motherboard manufacturers and Nvidia with the introduction of power hungry boards like the 4090 ones and the new and untested 16-pin connector.

One should not need to buy a new computer to use a new graphics card but that is what is expected. It used to be that if the PSU provided enough Watts for the board then all was OK. This is not the situation with the Nvidia graphics cards with their new 16-pin connector. Truly sloppy engineering on the part of the product management at Nvidia which is the source of the problem and not third party efforts to provide a fix.

I bought a new RTX 4090 and the adapter cable provided with it from Nvidia would not connect to the 1000W PSU in my 2020 HP Z4 tower computer. I would expect this nonsense if it was 1985 but in 2023 it is ludicrous and unforgivable.
 
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Zhiye, has there been any reports of this happening with a 4080 ? I have a MSI factory liquid cooled 4080, that I am using an adapter (fully seated) with, due to case space issues... NOT a Cablemod brand.. Any feedback would be appreciated!!
 
And maybe that's for the best, especially if you have one of the 16-pin power connectors that's been revised to enhance safety and ensure a better installation. We haven't seen any reports of the new 12V-2x6 connector melting, so the revision seems to be working as intended.
The CEM 5.1/12V-2x6 revision did not specify any changes to the cable plug connector, only to the board header. Maybe some manufacturers did a connector redesign at the same time the revision rolled out, but in general there is no reason to think that newer cables/cable adapters are any different than older ones.
 
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I like Cablemod. They make very nice cables. I bought a bunch of adapters and cables for the 16 pin connectors on my 4090 and my 4080s. They were recalled, Cablemod gave me coupons for each item. I used them to buy the newer modified version and some custom cables.
For this recall they are offering store credit or cash. I will just do the store credit. They tried to make a safe adapter for this very poorly designed cable connector and failed. They have been straight with me and I don't want to "kick them while they're down".
Their cables are very nice. Give them a try!
 
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The CEM 5.1/12V-2x6 revision did not specify any changes to the cable plug connector, only to the board header. Maybe some manufacturers did a connector redesign at the same time the revision rolled out, but in general there is no reason to think that newer cables/cable adapters are any different than older ones.
Given that the recall is only the adapters and not the cables leads me to believe that it's a part problem as opposed to anything with the connector itself. Mostly this whole thing seems like an issue where the retention aspect of the connector is the problem and that's what the revision targeted.
 
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Can you provide the molex part number for the connector you were looking at?
Here is the link to the product family guide if you are interested. Due to other issues such as metal compatibility, true pin spacings and other issues, I would not just go replacing with these unless your connector is already ruined and you need to try and replace it. I just saw that they came out with a housing that is rated to 125 deg C, which is pretty tough and beyond what most PCB boards can even handle.

https://www.molex.com/content/dam/m...oduct-reference-guides/987652-3661.pdf?inline

Unfortunately, the datasheets for these are a real mess to figure out. It took me quite a while to figure out the ATX 3.0 pin spacings, and then get the right info from the application notes. I no longer have the exact part number I found.
 
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Here is the link to the product family guide if you are interested. Due to other issues such as metal compatibility, true pin spacings and other issues, I would not just go replacing with these unless your connector is already ruined and you need to try and replace it. I just saw that they came out with a housing that is rated to 125 deg C, which is pretty tough and beyond what most PCB boards can even handle.

https://www.molex.com/content/dam/m...oduct-reference-guides/987652-3661.pdf?inline

Unfortunately, the datasheets for these are a real mess to figure out. It took me quite a while to figure out the ATX 3.0 pin spacings, and then get the right info from the application notes. I no longer have the exact part number I found.
Oh, I don't have a graphics card or power supply with a 12 pin power connector, was just curious.

Edit: and find Molex's online parts catalog surprisingly janky and hard to filter and search through.
 
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Here is my repost from a similar story from June 15, 2023:

"As power systems designer, it would cause me great concern to see the number of failures that are happening if this were my design. The typical warranty calls for most products will reflect a small number of actual field failures, as there are probably very many more and people are not reporting them. I have seen this many times over my career.

I took a look at the Molex Mini-Fit connectors that are similar to the actual one being used and found the spec for the 12 pin part. For 600W on a 12VDC system, you will need 8.33A per pin - if they all share perfectly. They won't, and a good designer plans for some redundancy to account for that. For instance, even in the NEC electrical code, they derate wires if operated in parallel. Connectors are done the same way, but with even more derating needed.

Connector vendors also play spec games and will list the maximum current per pin for a single or minimum pin housing for good marketing exposure. If you plan to use more than that 1 or 2 pins for high current, you should always derate depending upon the vendor recommendations - check the specs. This is nearly universal on power connectors and where many design engineers get into trouble when using power connectors.

In the spec chart on the Molex part, they recommend derating to 5.5A per pin with the 12 pin configuration. The derating has many factors including contact pin resistance spread (how well they will share), as well as the thermal profile of the connector housing. The pins toward the center of the housing get the most thermal stress since they get heat from both sides.

There are many design factors external to the connector that effect the reliability. One is the PCB design: did they put agressive thermal reliefs into the copper artwork? This can generate added local heating (just like using too small of a wire into a connector). Thermal reliefs are used to help with soldering and usually look like a wheel spoke pattern. Another factor is the typical humidity in the operating environment, which effects the speed of metal oxidation for the contact metals. If the connector environment also has high vibration, then the contacts can undergo fretting failure from the contacts rubbing which slowly eats the outer plating and exposes the metal underneath (usually copper). Depending upon the contact and housing designs, this might not need much vibration to dramatically accelerate this. Think about cooling fans, water pumps, and other rotating devices in a computer case.

On my past designs, I have performed thermal tests on critical power connectors like this to check the inside pins are not getting uncomfortably hot. Before the crimped pin is inserted into the housing, I would attach a thermocouple as close as I could to the contact area on the crimp pin. And choose a contact that is by the center of the connector. Bake the system until it reaches thermal steady state. The connector housing should not be anywhere close to the maximum rated temperature.

The 8.33A rating per pin needed in this application needs some inspection. And I don't believe blaming the user is a reasonable action. People are not responsible and criticized for the plug on their hairdryer for instance. It is expected to work, and safely."
There is very little you have mentioned that I have not encountered myself including a million dollar retrofit of a product due to fretting corrosion paid for by a cable supplier who's parts did not not match the first article samples delivered to us. (gold and tin don't play well together). It is hard to believe that Nvidia engineers don't have the experience that is "common sense" to so many of us. These days, with cheap thermal cameras this sort of problem is very easy to detect in a simple regression test.
 
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Isn't $74,500 about 42-45 4090's? The sad thing is they're just repairing your 4090 as the OEM voids their own warranty unless you can show that their stock adapter melted along with the card.
 
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