Caller ID shows only "716"

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Quick wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Quick wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Focus Peter Pan, try to focus...
>>> -Quick
>>
>> Okay, i'll focus and just say what an idiot I think you
>> are, and how you are intentionally posting FALSE
>> information.
>> You are really friggen stupid, intentionally trying to
>> pass false information, or just a plain old idiot trying
>> to pass along FALSE INFORMATION!
>> Hint... IT'S a *REALITY* that people get calls on their
>> phones/cellphones from offshore marketers!
>> There is not a friggen thing the US laws/courts can do to
>> stop it!
>> Your insistence that they are laws against it so it can
>> never happen is just plain wrong and stupid!
>> Sounds like you are one of those idiots that think the
>> whole world revolves around teh US... hey guess what....
>> It doesn't!
>
> sigh... i actually thought you were going to engage in an
> intelligent conversation this time and not revert to your
> standard response of labeling everyone as "intentionally
> spreading LIES"... o, well.
>
> -Quick

Okay, you've proved which you are.. If not intentionally lying, then you are
just plain STUPID

 

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:57:20 -0800, "Quick"
<quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

>Yes, there is a charge for the service by the service provider
>unless you're calling IP phone to IP phone and then you
>still have to pay your ISP.

I realize that, however if a call is transferred from say someone
calling ABC Corp in the USA, and the call is transferred to tech
support in India using a IP phone, there is no international call
charge incurred.
--
To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.

 

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Evan Platt wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:57:20 -0800, "Quick"
> <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, there is a charge for the service by the service
>> provider unless you're calling IP phone to IP phone and
>> then you
>> still have to pay your ISP.
>
> I realize that, however if a call is transferred from say
> someone calling ABC Corp in the USA, and the call is
> transferred to tech support in India using a IP phone,
> there is no international call charge incurred.

Sure. Nifty application. I was involved with a start-up
where we made a LAN based, extensible, PBX. Each
unit had some number of analog trunks, a greater
number of analog extensions, and then voice and control
over IP. You could have IP phones as extensions or
VoIP and control to other units giving you a distributed
PBX. ...part of your distributed PBX could be here and
part anywhere else. Using the PSTN you could dial a
local number to get a local dial tone at the location of
your overseas office. neat.

I agree that international calling can be inexpensive.

The question is:
*In the context of telemarketing*, is the "do not call" law
enforceable?

I say yes because telemarketing calls will be able to be
effectively linked to firms with a domestic presence.

-Quick

Side note for the twit: This is a very different question
than "can I call you from overseas whether you like it
or not".

 

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they really sell stuff? <g> I'm thinking more along the telemarketer scams -
legit (but annoying) telemarketers will follow the laws and not irritate
their potential customers. The scammers will do what they can to avoid the
laws - and that means operating outside the country.


------------------
> Think about what telemarketers sell. I cannot recall ever
> have been cold called for an international product.
> If we can agree on that then there may be some
> valid discussion on the concept of overseas call centers.
>
> Are they even viable in the context of telemarketing?
> If we agree that the product is domestic wouldn't it be
> a simple matter to tie an overseas call center with the
> domestic business contracting it? It's kind of important
> for them to tell you what to buy and how to buy it, right?
>
> -Quick
>
>

 

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cricket wrote:
> they really sell stuff? <g> I'm thinking more along the
> telemarketer scams - legit (but annoying) telemarketers
> will follow the laws and not irritate their potential
> customers. The scammers will do what they can to avoid
> the laws - and that means operating outside the country.

To what end?
To sell you something? That's my guess.
What do you think that something might be?
My guess is some domestic product.

Can we agree on that? Or are you permanently sidetracked
with PeterPan?

(i think i may have slipped into some parallel universe)
-Quick

 

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Quick wrote:
> cricket wrote:
>> they really sell stuff? <g> I'm thinking more along the
>> telemarketer scams - legit (but annoying) telemarketers
>> will follow the laws and not irritate their potential
>> customers. The scammers will do what they can to avoid
>> the laws - and that means operating outside the country.
>
> To what end?
> To sell you something? That's my guess.
> What do you think that something might be?
> My guess is some domestic product.
>
> Can we agree on that? Or are you permanently sidetracked
> with PeterPan?
>
> (i think i may have slipped into some parallel universe)
> -Quick

Heh! Peter Pan made a good point. I should have worded the
above differently.

Change "My guess is some domestic product",
To "My guess is some product sold by a firm with a domestic presence".

I now see where I may have befuddled someone...
-Quick

 

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:56:43 -0800, "Peter Pan"
<Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote:

>You can forge a caller ID very simply, search on the internet for that, I
>won't paste the results here since there are 10 of thousands of them, but
>this site has some good info... http://www.verizonfears.com/
>
>The other part of your question was link to a site that does it.. There are
>quite a few, some just for a test to try it but they charge $5, however
>there are dozens of commercial sites that sell Caller ID Spoofing services.
>

Ugh. Thanks for the link.. I think. One more thing to look forward
to in the coming years. Hopefully someone at the different phone
companies will think of something to combat this.

I did talk with Verizon again and the tech guy on the other side
confirmed that it was also showing up as "716" in their database. As
far as I can tell there's zero traceability for something like this.
Granted I didn't fully understand all the technical jargon I read from
your link, but it looks painfully easy and cheap to set something like
this up.

The good news is I just put the 716 number in my phone, uploaded a
dead ringer, and set 716 to that. So now when it calls I don't even
get a ring. I guess that's the best I can do until they start again
with another number.

--Quadriflax
"To insanity and beyond..."

 

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> To what end?
> To sell you something? That's my guess.

Some are just looking for ways to get you to part with your money... and
don't have a legit product to sell you.

 

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www.verizonfears.com
www.covertcall.com


Notan wrote:
> Quadriflax wrote:
> >
> > For the past couple of days I've been getting calls on my VX6000
that
> > show up as "716" and nothing else. They happen at seemingly random
> > intervals. I've picked up one of them and no one answered (it was
> > immediately disconnected), and nothing is ever left on my voice
mail.
> >
> > <snip>
>
> Her Majesty's Secret Service (Similar to "007")?
>
> Notan

 

[Peterpap]

716 calls from NOWHERE!
Starting a couple months I started receiving daily calls with 716 on the caller ID. When I answer nobody is there. The calls come in Monday thru Friday almost the same time everyday. I have service with Verizon and they are really helpless and incapable of troubleshooting the problem. Support is giving me poor excuses and they rushing to hang up.
I searched the internet and to my surprise there are a few other people posting the same problem. Has anyone gotten anywhere with this problem? Do you have any idea how to stop it?
Please help us this has become such a nuisance!
Thanks
Peter
email: peterpappas@hotmail.com

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For the past couple of days I've been getting calls on my VX6000 that
show up as "716" and nothing else. They happen at seemingly random
intervals. I've picked up one of them and no one answered (it was
immediately disconnected), and nothing is ever left on my voice mail.

I searched the internet and found a post here:
http://tinyurl.com/45v7m but the poster was anonymous and there was
no reply.

Does anyone know what this is? It seems more like some kind of glitch
to me than someone harrassing me. In fact, there it goes again, as I
type this.

I called Verizon and they said they can't do anything without being
subpoenaed, which means calling my local law enforcement. I'd really
rather not do that, but I'm starting to think it's the only thing that
will stop this nonsense.

Any advice/help/info is appreciated. Thanks.

--Quadriflax
"To insanity and beyond..."

 

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I have a service with At&t and have the same situation. All At&t told me was to enroll my number with donotcall.gov that they provide their services to mobile numbers now,... but that it would take up to 6 weeks I hope it works.

for now it's very annoying! I wish it would sop I get 6 miss calls from '716' every morning to midafternoon,..

S

 

[atomicleda]

I have a service with At&t and have the same situation. All At&t told me was to enroll my number with donotcall.gov that they provide their services to mobile numbers now,... but that it would take up to 6 weeks I hope it works.

for now it's very annoying! I wish it would sop I get 6 miss calls from '716' every morning to midafternoon,..

S

I hope that works for you, but it hasn't for us. We have two AT&T cell phones and they have both been registered with the Do Not Call Registry for over two years. My husband is a critical care nurse and works 7pm to 7am. He gets woken up several times a week by his phone ringing and it's a telemarketer calling from some fraudulent credit card company. The numbers listed in the caller ID are too many for a legitimate phone number and AT&T also tells us there is nothing they can do. He hates to turn the phone off while he's sleeping in case I had an emergency and needed to reach him or in case the hospital calls with an emergency and needs him to come in. When the recording connects him to a person, they tell him they are calling from his credit card company to offer him a lower rate. When he tells them he doesn't have a credit card, they hang up. If he tells them they are calling his cell phone and waking him up and to put him on their do not call list, they hang up. If he asks for the company name, they hang up.

According to the FTC website, no company contacting anyone in the US is allowed to use an automated dialer to call a cell phone. There is an area to file a complaint, but if you can't get a legitimate number and they won't give you their company name, there isn't much you can do except suffer through it. I can understand just not answering the phone, but a ringing phone during the middle of the day when you've just worked 6 back to back 12 hours night shifts in critical care is beyond upsetting. I think the people that do this are scum....especially when they've already seen that you're not some idiot that's going to fall for their scam.

I don't understand why AT&T can't allow you a block feature to block any calls not coming from legitimate numbers at least.

 

[DarkKnight_01]

I hope that works for you, but it hasn't for us. We have two AT&T cell phones and they have both been registered with the Do Not Call Registry for over two years. My husband is a critical care nurse and works 7pm to 7am. He gets woken up several times a week by his phone ringing and it's a telemarketer calling from some fraudulent credit card company. The numbers listed in the caller ID are too many for a legitimate phone number and AT&T also tells us there is nothing they can do. He hates to turn the phone off while he's sleeping in case I had an emergency and needed to reach him or in case the hospital calls with an emergency and needs him to come in. When the recording connects him to a person, they tell him they are calling from his credit card company to offer him a lower rate. When he tells them he doesn't have a credit card, they hang up. If he tells them they are calling his cell phone and waking him up and to put him on their do not call list, they hang up. If he asks for the company name, they hang up.

According to the FTC website, no company contacting anyone in the US is allowed to use an automated dialer to call a cell phone. There is an area to file a complaint, but if you can't get a legitimate number and they won't give you their company name, there isn't much you can do except suffer through it. I can understand just not answering the phone, but a ringing phone during the middle of the day when you've just worked 6 back to back 12 hours night shifts in critical care is beyond upsetting. I think the people that do this are scum....especially when they've already seen that you're not some idiot that's going to fall for their scam.

I don't understand why AT&T can't allow you a block feature to block any calls not coming from legitimate numbers at least.

I know the thread is old but I found it as I am having the same issue but for those of you will find this in the future times ahead my phone has the android os and with that the option to save numbers to my contact list and when that number calls again it shunts them/it straight to voice mail as is with bill collectors and others of that sort.

I hope this helps