Can I overclock a graphics card without 6/8 pin connector slot using motherboard power?

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i mean it does not matter which card you get. EVERY ONE will boost to max clock speeds. that max clock speed is the same for all the chips. every 1050ti card will boost/oc to the same speeds. it does not matter what it is clocked at out of the box. they will all boost to max levels automatically. so even if you bought a card with 1 ghz out of box speeds it will boost to the same 2 ghz that the other cards will. so a card you spend $100 more on that is clocked at 1.9 ghz out of the box will boost to the same 2 ghz as the one that was 1 ghz out of the box.

how hard is that to understand?? the chip can only go so high no matter what card it is on. and boost will ensure it goes to this max on every card. out of the box clock speeds mean...
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If the OC version isn't available locally, is the D5 version good for overclocking? Will it run hotter with single fan and around 120 FPS? By the way, my casing is K280 with exhaust fan only.
 
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The Pascal architecture (seen in all versions of the card) is very efficient and produces so little heat that it only needs one fan even for overclocking. Two fans, in my opinion, is purely for aesthetics. Even with just one fan, you'll hit the limits of stable power delivery to the core long before you reach thermal limits. One fan is more than enough for this card.

You're looking for 120 FPS... Okay what resolution and do you play older games or newer games?

Case cooling shouldn't be an issue for you.
 
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I use 1920x1080 resolution and I play multiplayer games like Overwatch. Does running around 120 FPS (or 140 FPS after overclocking) consume more power therefore more heat and more noise from single fan of the D5 version?
 
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Overwatch doesn't necessarily require a powerful graphics card. That card will easily drive 100+ FPS but I can't guarantee 140 FPS.

Note that the fan will likely be at idle speeds even when at load. Overclocking might bring it to 40-50% or so, but it's designed to not be loud.

Also note that some newer games that are graphically demanding may give that card a run for its money and require that you lower settings to medium to achieve 60 FPS. Even this will not make the card louder and I definitely believe that the 1050 ti is the best card for its budget range.
 
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Will overclocking shorten life span of the D5 version compared to the OC and Windforce OC versions? What if I manually overclock to 2002 Mhz (for example) or even higher? Will it run hotter on the D5 version and I need to switch to other versions?
 
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Increasing core clock does not increase temperature. Increasing voltage does increase temperature. These newer, smaller chips respond much better to good clean power than they do to increased voltage. You can likely reach 1900-2000MHz without needing to increase voltage on any of the cards.

If you look at the cards, the fans are slightly different sizes but the heatsink itself is plenty to keep it cool. Just for example, you could probably run the card off of case airflow alone if you just gave it a full sized heatsink (I wouldn't recommend this as heatsinks are expensive and it would void your warranty).
 
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I gonna buy my new graphics card later. So the D5 version is way to go? Just get the cheapest one and there is no need to spend more money on other version right? What is the maximum core clock I can put for the D5 version?
 
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It has earned my respect.

There's no need to spend more money if it doesn't mean more performance or more efficient cooling.

As always, the Silicon Lottery comes into play. There is no guarantee that you can match the average max OC for any card, but I'd expect at least 2GHz out of it.
 
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overclocking pascal gpu's is a futile effort. not a single card review for any 10xx card has shown any real world gain from overclocking. boost 3.0 will automatically take EVERY card to it's max until it hits thermal and power limits. with a card that only uses mobo power you'll hit power limits well before any thermal issues develop.

a card that uses a 6 or 8-pin connection will use more power and may sustain a small mhz advantage over a 75w card but that mhz will translate into literally 1-2 fps gain which is well with the margin of error for the testing!!

you can see this in all the pascal cards. the base EVGA SC card gets almost identical performance to the FTW edition within 1 fps. the extra money is not worth it at all. you will not see any real gain in your games from overclocking the card beyond what it will do out of the box with boost 3.0 doing it's thing.

here is a list of the models with links to reviews for other cards. i have not had time to add in 1050ti reviews but i have read over 100 of them and can say like the other pascal cards, overclocking for an extra 200 mhz (if you're lucky) over what boost 3.0 will do on its own, yields no fps gain worth mentioning http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html#17902604
 
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I bought Gigabyte 1050 Ti OC. After I ran Techpowerup as standalone program, my PC hang. After I put +500 for core clock and memory clock in MSI Afterburner, I remember the GPU clock was 2002 Mhz as shown in Techpower program. Is that fine? Also, when I ran Dxdiag program, my monitor showed white screen after overclocking.
 
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I bought Gigabyte 1050 Ti OC. After I ran Techpowerup as standalone program, my PC hang. After I put +500 for core clock and memory clock in MSI Afterburner, I remember the GPU clock was 2002 Mhz as shown in Techpower program. Is that fine? Also, when I ran Dxdiag program, my monitor showed white screen after overclocking.
 
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I bought Gigabyte 1050 Ti OC. After I ran Techpowerup as standalone program, my PC hang. After I put +500 for core clock and memory clock in MSI Afterburner, I remember the GPU clock was 2002 Mhz as shown in Techpower program. Is that fine? Also, when I ran Dxdiag program, my monitor showed white screen after overclocking.
 
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Never try over clocking a GPU without a PCI-e.
You power supply can only supply up to 75w , and gtx1050 ti comes with 60-70w already. Going over 75w is dangerous for MB as it goes over the amperages to achieve those extra watts.
 
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Are you sure cannot overclock a GPU without PCI-e? If like this, I should have bought the Windforce OC version that comes with 6-pin connector slot instead of the OC version. After I put +500 Mhz for core clock and memory clock in MSI Afterburner, my PC hang. But my PC doesn't hang when +400 Mhz.
 
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you can set it to whatever you want to set ti to. does not mean the card will maintain that. remember there are protections built in to prevent damage to the card and system. it will throttle back the performance once it hits the power limits. as i already explained you own't see any extra fps out of it either way.

so try to oc a card limited to the 66w mobo slot and it will throttle back as needed to not pull to much power. actual limit is 5.5a from the slot. so at 12v you have a 66w limit. the mobo can handle slightly higher voltage through the slot so it is common to see the limit referred to as 75w which is about 13.6v. not ideal to actually run at 75w and if you read some reviews you'll see they don't normally hit that high at load. if it does, it will come with a 6-pin connection to get the power from the psu and not mobo.

leave it at stock and let Boost 3.0 do it's thing or return it and see that the extra power only adds to your light bill and gives no real fps advantage.

or don't believe me and spend lots of time in this futile effort :)
 
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So you mean there's no point to overclock my Gigabyte 1050 Ti OC?
 
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Sometimes you get an extra 5 FPS or so, sometimes it throttles back right away. These cards that don't have the extra power connectors don't have the extra amperage available that would be useful for a high OC. However, a recent study of mine (will post soon once I get the information organized) shows that overclocking your graphics card even a little dramatically increases CPU usage and may create a CPU bottleneck if one wasn't present before the OC settings were applied.
 
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be interested to read that once you got it done :)

but to answer the question differently. looking at reviews of all the pascal cards, rarely did any card see more than 1-2 fps gain with any overclock. that of course is well within the margin of error for the tests. what you missed that i said earlier is that Boost 3.0 technology overclocks the card on its own. it will take the car as high as it can before it hits power and thermal limits. this is essentially the same thing you are doing when "manually" overclocking the card. you may see an extra 1-200 mhz by doing it manually but this does not translate to any perceivable gains at all. thus with this generation of cards, there is really no reason at all to waste time manually overclocking the card for no gain. all it will do is use more power and create more heat and noise.

now throw in that you have a card that only uses power from the motherboard that is already pushing the limits of what the slot can do and you expect to be able to go further?? it's not gonna happen and the only thing you can gain is to mess up the mobo by trying to pull too much power from its slot!! it'll cut the card off before it can do any damage most of the time, but why risk it for literally no gain.

i hope i have made it clear this time i said the exact same thing i said above. feel free to waste time on it, but you are wasting time and effort and risking your mobo's slot by trying to overclock the power limited card for no real world gain at all.
 
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So you mean I should have bought the Windforce OC version instead of the OC version for overclocking?
 
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i mean it does not matter which card you get. EVERY ONE will boost to max clock speeds. that max clock speed is the same for all the chips. every 1050ti card will boost/oc to the same speeds. it does not matter what it is clocked at out of the box. they will all boost to max levels automatically. so even if you bought a card with 1 ghz out of box speeds it will boost to the same 2 ghz that the other cards will. so a card you spend $100 more on that is clocked at 1.9 ghz out of the box will boost to the same 2 ghz as the one that was 1 ghz out of the box.

how hard is that to understand?? the chip can only go so high no matter what card it is on. and boost will ensure it goes to this max on every card. out of the box clock speeds mean nothing at all to any pascal card on the market!!!! they will all use boost 3.0 to take it to the max. so pick literally any 1050ti card you can find and it will do the exact same thing as any other 1050ti card you could buy,

does not matter how much you pay for it, how much extra stuff it puts on the pcb, how many/big the cooling fans are........... net result is same speeds, same fps and same experience as everyone esle who bought any 1050ti card.

i'm done now as i have repeated myself too many times and i have other things to do. enjoy the card, or get another one, makes no real difference to what it will do for you.
 
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