Question Can I please get opinion on which USED build to buy?

[akaBebo]

both builds are used.

Build 1: $400
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200g Quad Core
GPU: XFX RX 580 8gb
RAM: Tforce 16gb DDR4 3200mhz
SSD: PNY 500gb NVME M.2 SSS
OS: Windows 11 Pro
PSU: EVGA 450 Watt

Build 2: $380
Windows 10 Home
Intel i7 6700k
Hyper 212 Evo Red Led
GTX 1050ti 4GB
Asrock H270M Fatal1ty Motherboard
512 Gb M.2 SSD
16 Gb 2400MHZ Corsair Vengeance
Wi-Fi Network Adapter
500 Watt PSU

 

[Lafong]

The Intel has about a 17% advantage on a standard single thread benchmark.

How advantageous that would be to you depends on what you are trying to do with the PC.

BUT...............very difficult to advise you because we know NOTHING about the history of these 2 machines. One may have been babied and the other may have been severely abused. "Used" reveals only that they aren't "new".

 

[Hellfire13]

Poor CPU in Build 1, poor GPU in Build 2. Its pretty much a stalemate.
If it was me, I would get the Build 2 and gradually upgrade to a better GPU. Assuming, this is for gaming.

 

[akaBebo]

Poor CPU in Build 1, poor GPU in Build 2. Its pretty much a stalemate.
If it was me, I would get the Build 2 and gradually upgrade to a better GPU. Assuming, this is for gaming.

Really for school work and mainly csgo as I console game other titles. Thank you for the recommendation.

 

[akaBebo]

The Intel has about a 17% advantage on a standard single thread benchmark.

How advantageous that would be to you depends on what you are trying to do with the PC.

BUT...............very difficult to advise you because we know NOTHING about the history of these 2 machines. One may have been babied and the other may have been severely abused. "Used" reveals only that they aren't "new".

Poor CPU in Build 1, poor GPU in Build 2. Its pretty much a stalemate.
If it was me, I would get the Build 2 and gradually upgrade to a better GPU. Assuming, this is for gaming.

The Intel has about a 17% advantage on a standard single thread benchmark.

How advantageous that would be to you depends on what you are trying to do with the PC.

BUT...............very difficult to advise you because we know NOTHING about the history of these 2 machines. One may have been babied and the other may have been severely abused. "Used" reveals only that they aren't "new".

Build 2 is a guy from a sneaker group that I know him to be legit in. Both guys have agreed to let me test it before buying. Not sure what to look, other than how the game runs while playing.

 

[Lafong]

Not sure what to look, other than how the game runs while playing.

Yeah, either could drop dead or last 10 years regardless of your testing them.

I'd probably stress test them while I had something like HWInfo running to get a look at voltages, fan speeds, temps, etc.

I'd run Crystal Disk Info to get basic info on the hard drives.

Crystal Disk Mark for a quick look at drive speeds.

Maybe take some time looking at Task Manager and Reliability History.

 

[Eximo]

I would take build 1. It is the most modern platform. CPU can likely be replaced with a nearly up to date Ryzen 5000 series chip. Find out the motherboard model and you can confirm this before buying.

PSU is a limit on GPU, but that can also be replaced at a later date relatively easily.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Neither.

When the PSU wattage is equal to or higher than the total GB in storage... that's a hard pass for me.

 

[akaBebo]

I would take build 1. It is the most modern platform. CPU can likely be replaced with a nearly up to date Ryzen 5000 series chip. Find out the motherboard model and you can confirm this before buying.

PSU is a limit on GPU, but that can also be replaced at a later date relatively easily.

Since I was hoping to spend $400 on an upgrade, what if I reuse the Xlr8 1650 oc. upgrade to something in the future.

Amd 5 5500 6-core 12-thread
B450m-a ll amd am4
Team group Mp33 512gb
Thermaltake 600w 80+ gold
Silicon 18gb ddr4 3200mhz
Diypc f2

 

[akaBebo]

both builds are used.

Build 1: $400
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200g Quad Core
GPU: XFX RX 580 8gb
RAM: Tforce 16gb DDR4 3200mhz
SSD: PNY 500gb NVME M.2 SSS
OS: Windows 11 Pro
PSU: EVGA 450 Watt

Build 2: $380
Windows 10 Home
Intel i7 6700k
Hyper 212 Evo Red Led
GTX 1050ti 4GB
Asrock H270M Fatal1ty Motherboard
512 Gb M.2 SSD
16 Gb 2400MHZ Corsair Vengeance
Wi-Fi Network Adapter
500 Watt PSU

Bump not sure if whole thread will see this.

I’ve also considered reusing the Xlr8 1650 Oc. Upgrading around stay around the $400 mark I wanted to hit. Build would be as followed.

Amd 5 5500 6-core 12-thread

Xlr8 1650 4GB Oc

B450m-a ll amd am4

Team group Mp33 512gb

Thermaltake 600w 80+ gold

Silicon 18gb ddr4 3200mhz

Diypc f2

Really just want to surf web, play lower end titles csgo and valorant.

 

[geofelt]

CSGO and many such games are cpu limited, mostly by single thread performance.
I7-6700 is a bit better in that respect.
But, with some money, the cpu of option 1 can be replaced without needing a new motherboard.

pc#1 uses a slightly stronger graphics card, but the 450w psu driving it is inadequate.

It is not clear to me if you already have some sort of a pc.
Where does this Xlr8 1650 Oc come from?

 

[akaBebo]

CSGO and many such games are cpu limited, mostly by single thread performance.
I7-6700 is a bit better in that respect.
But, with some money, the cpu of option 1 can be replaced without needing a new motherboard.

pc#1 uses a slightly stronger graphics card, but the 450w psu driving it is inadequate.

It is not clear to me if you already have some sort of a pc.
Where does this Xlr8 1650 Oc come from?

apologies. I do have a pc.
MS-7906 (orchid-s)
AMD A10-7700K
450w
16GB DDR3 (7.93 useable)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
Seagate ST2000DMOD1-1ER164

Doesn’t seem upgradeable. Thought I could save the gpu and build around it. Instead of buying a used pc since it’s around the $400 mark I wanted to be at.

 

[geofelt]

Do you have a ssd or hard drive?
I think an upgrade is possible.
Your A10-7700K is abysmally weak for anything.
Run the cpu-Z bench and look at the single thread performance rating.
You should see a single thread score of about 216.

CPU-Z Benchmark for AMD A10-7700K (1T) - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

Best CPU performance - 64-bit - April 2024

valid.x86.fr

Here are the single thread scores for the other processors mentioned:
R3-3200g 440
6700K 510
R5-5500 607.
All are old gen products.
You can buy a I3-13100 for about $150 which scores 678.
FWIW, my particular 13100 scores 717, I think because I use DDR5.
A B760 DDR4 motherboard can be as little as $100DDR5 based is more like $150)

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144597?Item=N82E16813144597&quicklink=true

A 2 x 8gb DDR4 ram kit will be about $37:

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232417?Item=9SIA4YU8HB2579

Total <$300.
Plan on reusing your GTX1650 and your psu until you feel you want faster action graphics.
When it comes time to upgrade your psu, look first to quality.
The easiest way to assess that is to look at the warranty.
5 years may be ok, but 7 years or more will get you a quality unit.
Look to seasonic focus or Corsair RMx for starters.
If you do not now have a ssd, look for a 1tb m.2 pcie device from Intel or Samsung $50-$60.
For example a intel 1tb m.2 670p pcie ssd is $47

https://www.newegg.com/intel-1tb-670p-series/p/N82E16820167474?Item=N82E16820167474&quicklink=true

Still well under $400

 

[akaBebo]

Do you have a ssd or hard drive?
I think an upgrade is possible.
Your A10-7700K is abysmally weak for anything.
Run the cpu-Z bench and look at the single thread performance rating.
You should see a single thread score of about 216.

CPU-Z Benchmark for AMD A10-7700K (1T) - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

Best CPU performance - 64-bit - April 2024

valid.x86.fr

Here are the single thread scores for the other processors mentioned:
R3-3200g 440
6700K 510
R5-5500 607.
All are old gen products.
You can buy a I3-13100 for about $150 which scores 678.
FWIW, my particular 13100 scores 717, I think because I use DDR5.
A B760 DDR4 motherboard can be as little as $100DDR5 based is more like $150)

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144597?Item=N82E16813144597&quicklink=true

A 2 x 8gb DDR4 ram kit will be about $37:

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232417?Item=9SIA4YU8HB2579

Total <$300.
Plan on reusing your GTX1650 and your psu until you feel you want faster action graphics.
When it comes time to upgrade your psu, look first to quality.
The easiest way to assess that is to look at the warranty.
5 years may be ok, but 7 years or more will get you a quality unit.
Look to seasonic focus or Corsair RMx for starters.
If you do not now have a ssd, look for a 1tb m.2 pcie device from Intel or Samsung $50-$60.
For example a intel 1tb m.2 670p pcie ssd is $47

https://www.newegg.com/intel-1tb-670p-series/p/N82E16820167474?Item=N82E16820167474&quicklink=true

Still well under $400

Is there any difference between i3 13100F / i3 13100?

 

[Lafong]

The F does not have graphics integrated into the CPU.

The other one does.