Can I run these games with this upgrade ? E8400 with GTX 1050 ?

[Barbos4]

So I found an old desktop laying around. Installed Windows 10 and cleaned it up a bit. It doesn't seem to have any problems and since I didn't have a personal PC, I decided to use it.
I'm thinking about upgrading it so it can run games like Rainbow six Siege and Overwatch at least minimum/medium settings 30 FPS to play with my friends.

Current Parts:
CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz (with stock cooler)
GPU: ATI Radeon X300 128mb
Mobo: Intel DQ35MP
RAM: 2Gb Kingston DDR2
PSU: Random PowerLogic 450W max power (probably fake)
HDD: 150 GB and surprisingly fast for an old drive
Case:ATX CoolerMaster case

I've now added a new 2TB HDD and ordered more RAM (4GB DDR2 so it stays with 6GB total)
I now intend to do a GPU and PSU Upgrade. I thought about buying the MSI GTX 1050 2GB Mini and the CoolerMaster MasterWatt Lite 500W 80Plus.

*The Case has enough room for everything listed.

Questions:
Do you think this GPU will fit the motherboard and if I can run new games with the new PSU and GPU.?
Will the PSU be compatible with all the components.?
Will the PSU be compatible with an old 2007 ATX Case ?
Will the CPU bottleneck the GPU that much?

Thx for anyone that can reply and leave any suggestions.

 

[Atomicdonut17]

Well. I would like to say no.

The amount of VRAM you have isn't much at all for these games (128MB DDR), and I would be lying if I said I thought those games would even LAUNCH on a Core 2-based platform. Maybe, maybe MAYBE Overwatch. But.. Rainbow 6 Siege? I'd have more luck trying to play on a toaster.

Even if you got these games running, expect less-than-adequate performance even at the lowest settings, 720p.

 

[Barbos4]

Well. I would like to say no.

The amount of VRAM you have isn't much at all for these games (128MB DDR), and I would be lying if I said I thought those games would even LAUNCH on a Core 2-based platform. Maybe, maybe MAYBE Overwatch. But.. Rainbow 6 Siege? I'd have more luck trying to play on a toaster.

Even if you got these games running, expect less-than-adequate performance even at the lowest settings, 720p.

Hello, sorry for not being specific, but what I actually meant with the thread is if I upgrade the GPU would it be able to run those games along with the core 2 duo and the other upgraded parts (6GB RAM and PSU). I've seen a few videos with that CPU/GPU combo playing those games and it seemed fine.

Thanks for the Quick answer

 

[Atomicdonut17]

Well. I would like to say no.

The amount of VRAM you have isn't much at all for these games (128MB DDR), and I would be lying if I said I thought those games would even LAUNCH on a Core 2-based platform. Maybe, maybe MAYBE Overwatch. But.. Rainbow 6 Siege? I'd have more luck trying to play on a toaster.

Even if you got these games running, expect less-than-adequate performance even at the lowest settings, 720p.

Hello, sorry for not being specific, but what I actually meant with the thread is if I upgrade the GPU would it be able to run those games along with the core 2 duo and the other upgraded parts (6GB RAM and PSU). I've seen a few videos with that CPU/GPU combo playing those games and it seemed fine.

Thanks for the Quick answer

I did a bit more digging, and I refute my statement: It will run the open Overwatch in the very least, maybe not Siege, as it may require more than 2 cores to even operate.

Anyhow, even with a high-end GPU, you'll be facing issues. For one, the Core 2 Duo you've listed is only.. well, 2 cores. A platform from late '08 with zero hyperthreading will bottleneck anything after its era. And, realistically speaking, severely so. You can expect large losses in FPS. However, it will play them. At low resolution (720p) and low graphics settings, I imagine you can get away with 30FPS, even in R6S.

 

[cryoburner]

I did a bit more digging, and I refute my statement: It will run the open Overwatch in the very least, maybe not Siege, as it may require more than 2 cores to even operate.

Anyhow, even with a high-end GPU, you'll be facing issues. For one, the Core 2 Duo you've listed is only.. well, 2 cores. A platform from late '08 with zero hyperthreading will bottleneck anything after its era. And, realistically speaking, severely so. You can expect large losses in FPS. However, it will play them. At low resolution (720p) and low graphics settings, I imagine you can get away with 30FPS, even in R6S.

Rainbow Six Siege's minimum requirements recommend an i3 560, which is a seven year old dual-core processor, albeit with hyperthreading. From what I can gather, that processor only has slightly better single-threaded performance than an e8400... (copy and paste the full link)

=740&cmp[]=955]https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=740&cmp[]=955

It's only about a 9% difference going by Passmark's stats, which appears to come down almost exclusively to the slightly faster clockspeed. The hyperthreading makes the multithreaded performance around 37% better, but that's likely with all threads being fully utilized, which most games will not do. I'm not sure about Siege's precise performance demands, but it seems like that processor would only perform a little bit worse than their recommended minimum.

The CPU isn't likely to limit resolution at all either, since that will depend almost exclusively on graphics card performance, so there should be no need to run at a low resolution. The same goes for most other graphics settings, which will again mostly be limited by the graphics card, not the CPU. Most graphics options are not affected much by CPU performance, though there may be some, like particle effects, that have their physics performed on the CPU, that may be worth turning down.

There is, however, the possibility that the game's core routines won't have enough performance available to run smoothly, but lowering resolution and graphics options wouldn't do much to improve that. I certainly wouldn't expect to get 60fps, but maintaining 30+ fps might not be out of the question. There were some videos on youtube of people playing siege on an e8400, but they were all using much lower-end graphics cards than a 1050, so it's difficult to say exactly how much better the performance would be.

 

[jtabb1256]

I was going to say bump it up to a gtx 1050ti, but that card is actually pretty good. Looks like it will do pretty well at 1080p and very well at 720p.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuJZ1hbBV4I

 

[Barbos4]

Thanks to everyone for the answers
When my RAM arrives, I'll decide if I upgrade it or not.