Can I upgrade from a Ryzen 5 to a Ryzen 7 without changing the motherboard?

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That should work fine, however, the current Ryzen 7 CPUs shouldn't perform much better in today's games than Ryzen 5. Nearly all of today's games don't yet make heavy use of enough threads to take advantage of Ryzen 7's 8 cores with 16 threads, and even a Ryzen 5 1600 should have plenty of cores for any current games. Maybe in the future, we'll see games making better use of those extra cores, but for now, they won't really help much in games. And as far as per-core performance goes, all current Ryzen CPUs are unlocked, and should be able to overclock to a similar level, so with a bit of overclocking (even on the stock heat sink) one can get similar gaming performance on a Ryzen 1600 as they can on an 1800X.

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The only difference is going to be where more cores are needed and if you had a overclock. A 1300X, 1500X and 1700X all at 4ghz on a title that only uses 4 cores are going to be really close to the same in FPS terms "5fps". If you find something that makes use of all cores then a Ryzen 7 is going to benefit from that while the others will be restricted based on the available core count.
 
In short yes,
Game don’t run better in r7 in most cases, they are more frequency related, especially going from r5 1600/1600x to r7 .
Keep in mind oc is a different story, it’s better to oc r7 on a x370 mb as the vrm are generally stronger. If you are running stock then b350 will be fine for stock r7 and oc r5s.
 
Yes, you can upgrade from a Ryzen 5 to a Ryzen 7 without changing motherboard...just make sure your BIOS is up to date.
There could be around 12% performance increase but it will depend on your graphics card and game played.
Could you post your system components.

 
That should work fine, however, the current Ryzen 7 CPUs shouldn't perform much better in today's games than Ryzen 5. Nearly all of today's games don't yet make heavy use of enough threads to take advantage of Ryzen 7's 8 cores with 16 threads, and even a Ryzen 5 1600 should have plenty of cores for any current games. Maybe in the future, we'll see games making better use of those extra cores, but for now, they won't really help much in games. And as far as per-core performance goes, all current Ryzen CPUs are unlocked, and should be able to overclock to a similar level, so with a bit of overclocking (even on the stock heat sink) one can get similar gaming performance on a Ryzen 1600 as they can on an 1800X.

There will be a new series of Ryzen 5 and 7 processors launching in a few weeks though, and these 2000-series CPUs should come with a bit better performance at their stock clocks, and should also be able to achieve higher overclocks. If you already have a Ryzen system with an AM4 motherboard, you should be able to upgrade to the newer processors as well, though you would need to update the motherboard's BIOS first to work with the new CPUs.

As for 4K resolution, it actually tends to be less-demanding on the CPU than lower resolutions, since the graphics card will be limiting performance more often than not. You do need a high-end graphics card to run 4K though, and for running recent games at relatively high settings, you will likely want at least a GTX 1080 or 1080 TI level graphics card. If you don't want to invest that much in a graphics card, then it's probably better to stick with more moderate resolutions like 1440p or below.
 
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I'm currently using a 1080ti and truthfully 4K still runs pretty poorly. Screen tearing and stuttering even on medium qualities on the latest games (fps goes between 50-60 but the stuttering is usually pretty bad so its very noticeable) but if the cpu upgrade wont really help with that maybe I'd just be better off saving for a new graphics card.
 


Don't know what you would get better than a 1080Ti right now, it's not likely an issue with your CPU though.

What are you using for a monitor? Is it a TV? If a TV, test it with a real monitor, TVs tend to have quite a bit more input lag and issues with gaming.

Did you check some benchmarks for the games on 4k resolution to see if you are under what you should get?
 

Which games are you playing and which monitor are you using?

 
Even a 1080 TI isn't quite fast enough to maintain 60 fps at 4K with ultra settings in many of today's games. There isn't really much faster on the market though, aside from the $3000 Titan V, which isn't really intended for the gaming market so much as professional computing tasks, and includes some expensive features that aren't even utilized by games. Nvidia will be launching a new series of consumer-oriented cards later this year, though it remains to be seen how much faster those will be, and how they will be priced.

Another option would be to simply turn the settings down from ultra to high if you really want to run a struggling game at 4K resolution. In many cases, that might be enough to keep you over 60 fps most of the time, and the visual differences aren't likely to be very noticeable.
 

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Most games still dont run smoothly on medium, the fps is always 50+ but it just stutters with bad screen tearing,
 
While I don't really think this is necessarily a CPU issue, which one do you currently have? Ryzen 5 includes the 4-core/8-thread 1400 and 1500X, as well as the 6-core/12-thread 1600 and 1600X. Have you overclocked the CPU at all?

And have you checked the temperature of your CPU and GPU while gaming, and while experiencing these stutters? It's possible that something could be overheating and throttling performance. Knowing the complete system specs might help too.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£147.50 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£64.42 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£173.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£33.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (£853.28 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.15 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£64.79 @ Alza)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor (£337.30 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1793.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-02 22:27 BST+0100

Thats my full parts list, my gpu temp when gaming in 4k hits about 80.