Question Can i use new graphics cards on an old motherboard ?

[crazymandy]

Im planning to buy an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 but my motherboard is ASUS Rampage 2 Extreme - and i think it supports PCI EXPRESS 2.0 or so.
I have an Nvidia PCIe GTX 1070 Founders Edition. My question is will the new graphics card work on older hardware?

 

[NanoSuit3]

Yes simple as that as I use a 2080 Ti on my Asus Rampage V E10

 

[punkncat]

Sort answer, yes.

I am not really sure if you would be able to see much of a difference due to the revision, more likely that other hardware limitations would be more obvious culprits.

Make sure your power supply is up to task.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

Might as well post your full specs on here because it depends on what psu you have and what cpu will have to work with it

 

[crazymandy]

Might as well post your full specs on here because it depends on what psu you have and what cpu will have to work with it

thermaltake toughpower 1200 watt power supply. cpu is intel core i7 extreme edition 975 at 3.3 ghz

 

[punkncat]

i7 extreme edition 975 at 3.3 ghz

You could gain a WHOLE lot by using that 4080 money towards a base system update and about half the graphics card for the same price.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

thermaltake toughpower 1200 watt power supply. cpu is intel core i7 extreme edition 975 at 3.3 ghz

4080 is too powerful for your CPU to cope with and you'd be missing out on good performance on 4080 edited you need a brand new system like new motherboard and CPU and good storage like SSD drive to gain that full peformance from your 4080

 

[crazymandy]

4080 is to powerful for your CPU to cope with and you be missing out on good performance on 4080

what about an ASUS rtx 4060?

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

what about an ASUS rtx 4060?

If your planning buy new cards then you need to spend that money on updating your system CPU motherboard cooler storage and then spend money on new GPU. Your cpu been release on

Release Date:	Jun 2nd, 2009

Its 14 years old now since cpu come out and will not work with newer cards

 

[USAFRet]

what about an ASUS rtx 4060?

Given your current system, you need a whole new system.

Don't put any significant money into a new GPU for that.

This is like putting racing tires on a 16 year old beat up Honda Civic.

 

[crazymandy]

If your planning buy new cards then you need to spend that money on updating your system CPU motherboard cooler storage and then spend money on new GPU. Your cpu been release on

Release Date:	Jun 2nd, 2009

Its 14 years old now since cpu come out and will not work with newer cards

my budget is 400 euro! how can i update motherboard to new with 400 euro for a CPU + motherboard + memory.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

my budget is 400 euro! how can i update motherboard to new with 400 euro for a CPU + motherboard + memory.

Save up and do not buy 4080 you need a new system!

 

[crazymandy]

Save up and do not buy 4080 you need a new system!

thanks for advice ..!

 

[crazymandy]

4080 is to powerful for your CPU to cope with and you be missing out on good performance on 4080 edited you need a brand new system like new motherboard and CPU and good storage like SSD drive to gain that full peformance from your 4080

awesome ok.. does older hard drives work on a new motherboard? for example western digital velociraptor?

 

[USAFRet]

awesome ok.. does older hard drives work on a new motherboard? for example western digital velociraptor?

Well yes, but....

You're looking at building a whole new PC.
Might as well include a solid state drive in that.

And if you were thinking of reusing the OS on this old drive? No.
New system means new OS install.

 

[Eximo]

Yes, but again you would want to replace those.

Modern NVMe SSDs are way faster and more reliable.

 

[crazymandy]

Yes, but again you would want to replace those.

Modern NVMe SSDs are way faster and more reliable.

i have a SSD actually and yes i agree its a big difference. but my goal is computer for music production and maybe gaming on my weekends.. i do not need anymore super amazing epic hardware like overclocking motherboard and stuff.. my old computer is at that time in 2009 was the best in the world i bought all the best of the best.

 

[USAFRet]

i have a SSD actually and yes i agree its a big difference. but my goal is computer for music production and maybe gaming on my weekends.. i do not need anymore super amazing epic hardware like overclocking motherboard and stuff.. my old computer is at that time in 2009 was the best in the world i bought all the best of the best.

And I wouldn't trust a 15 year old Velociraptor with holding a simple text file....

 

[Nighthawk117]

what about an ASUS rtx 4060?

It's still a crazy pairing not worth doing. What country do you live in and do you have a preferred online retailer?

You say you want to play some games, can you name some? 2D indy games for example are very different in requirements to triple A games like Hogwarts Legacy with ray tracing.

 

[Eximo]

Hard drives don't usually last that long. Any data you have on them now is at a pretty heavy risk without a backup scheme.

What would those be 300GB WD Raptors or something, at most? A 2TB SATA SSD is pretty cheap these days. NVMe storage is an order of magnitude faster and nearly as cheap. You just need a motherboard with M.2 slots.

 

[crazymandy]

It's still a crazy pairing not worth doing. What country do you live in and do you have a preferred online retailer?

You say you want to play some games, can you name some? 2D indy games for example are very different in requirements to triple A games like Hogwarts Legacy with ray tracing.

i play old computer games like half life, quake, red alert 1. but uh i thought the new upcoming big game title such as tomb raider, alan wake, next stalker etc... shouldnt it make sense to get a good card for this games?

 

[USAFRet]

i play old computer games like half life, quake, red alert 1. but uh i thought the new upcoming big game title such as tomb raider, alan wake, next stalker etc... shouldnt it make sense to get a good card for this games?

With those old games, a 40xx GPU gives NO benefit over what you have now.
Especially paired with your current ancient hardware.

For the new games, your old hardware will cry massively.

 

[Nighthawk117]

i play old computer games like half life, quake, red alert 1. but uh i thought the new upcoming big game title such as tomb raider, alan wake, next stalker etc... shouldnt it make sense to get a good card for this games?

It does but you need an appropriate CPU to drive the graphics card. While your CPU was a monster in it's day and has lasted well. 14 years have passed since it's release, it's no longer appropriate to pair it with a modern GPU.

The minimum system requirements for Alan Wake for example are a Ryzen 5 2600 or i5 8600, both relatively modern 6 core CPU's.

My two cents would be, to repurpose this PC as a backup machine and build a budget gaming gaming rig, possibly an AMD AM4 machine. You won't be able to do it for 400 euros though, unfortunately you'd have to nearly double your budget. A quick mock up of what that might look like would be something like:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/wM9h6r

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€77.43 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€94.69 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€53.67 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€55.94 @ TopAchat)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (€207.50 @ Amazon France)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€89.99 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€68.72 @ Amazon France)
Total: €647.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-17 23:28 CEST+0200

 

[ARICH5]

It does but you need an appropriate CPU to drive the graphics card. While your CPU was a monster in it's day and has lasted well. 14 years have passed since it's release, it's no longer appropriate to pair it with a modern GPU.

The minimum system requirements for Alan Wake for example are a Ryzen 5 2600 or i5 8600, both relatively modern 6 core CPU's.

My two cents would be, to repurpose this PC as a backup machine and build a budget gaming gaming rig, possibly an AMD AM4 machine. You won't be able to do it for 400 euros though, unfortunately you'd have to nearly double your budget. A quick mock up of what that might look like would be something like:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/wM9h6r

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€77.43 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€94.69 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€53.67 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€55.94 @ TopAchat)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (€207.50 @ Amazon France)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€89.99 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€68.72 @ Amazon France)
Total: €647.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-17 23:28 CEST+0200

that rx6600 might not be sufficient for stalker 2....i hear its extremely demanding. the devs say the UE5 engine struggles on a rtx4060.
and also i wouldnt use a single m.2 for music production. use 1 for os and programs and and a ssd for finished bounced tracks. i actually use a external HD incase of a fire or accident.

 

[Nighthawk117]

that rx6600 might not be sufficient for stalker 2....i hear its extremely demanding. the devs say the UE5 engine struggles on a rtx4060.
and also i wouldnt use a single m.2 for music production. use 1 for os and programs and and a ssd for finished bounced tracks. i actually use a external HD incase of a fire or accident.

I've picked everything on cost, I agree it's not optimal system. My expectation was anything could be made playable on the RX 6600 with compromises. That maybe true on the 4060 but that seems an awfully high bar of entry to play the game.