[SOLVED] Can someone give me an estimate for selling this rig as a prebuilt?

[byler47]

I've had this PC for a while now and I'm looking to sell it and start over. Here are the specs:

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CASE: Phanteks p400s

MOTHERBOARD: MSI B350M Bazooka

GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 SC

CPU: Ryzen 5 1400

CPU COOLER: Stock Wraith Spire

RAM: Team-Group T-Force Delta RGB 3000MHZ

PSU: Corsair CX550 80+ Bronze

STORAGE: Crucial MX500GB M.2 SSD, WD Green 2TB 7200RPM HDD

ADDITIONAL COOLING: 5x UpHere RGB 140mm fans (non PWM)

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I'm also considering upgrading the CPU to a R5 2600 and getting a better CPU cooler as well before selling it. Any thoughts?

 

[Darkbreeze]

You'd probably get more for it selling the components individually, but for the whole unit I'd say you're looking at it being worth maybe 600-700 bucks if you find the right buyer. Used hardware does not maintain a lot of value due to it's very risky nature for most buyers.

Also, there are no Gold rated CX power supplies. The CX models are all Bronze.

 

[punkncat]

Your single most valuable part is that GPU at 250 to 300 on it's own. Beyond that, and to be blatantly honest you would have a hard time selling the rest for a couple/few hundred bucks.

Since that system won't operate without a GPU, I would likely TRY to sell at $500 and see what you get. That 1400 isn't helping and you likely wouldn't recoup an upgrade simply for the purpose of resale without being a known reputable dealer.

edit- this is in no way meant to knock the capability of your system, or the upgradability. If you are looking for better I think it's a great system to build upon given the structure that AMD has offered on AM4....with that said, why would some person out there spend premium money buying your used system when they could build what you have for about the same as you would be compelled to ask as selling price. The above "estimate" is unreasonable.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I agree, and if it were me, I'd simply put a more capable CPU in there. Maybe a new motherboard as well, but technically that motherboard should be able to handle a Ryzen 5 3600 or something similar with little problem. I don't like the fact that it's a 1st gen chipset because the newer chipsets have much better memory compatibility, even after you factor in BIOS updates, but it COULD still work out as a less expensive alternative if you wanted to go that route.

Otherwise, you could do something like this and have a MUCH more capable system, with a pretty minimal investment, and if you're not gaming at a higher resolution that 1080p, or gaming on multiple monitors, then the GPU card you have now is more than adequate for any AAA game at 1080p.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $333.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-02 02:26 EDT-0400

 

[punkncat]

I agree with the above suggestion. One caveat...KEEP your first gen chip till after the upgrade such that you can do a BIOS flash for the 3xxx chip on that mobo.
Afterwards you should be able to sell your CPU and motherboard combo for a hundo and possibly some to recoup part of your expense upgrading.

I personally feel like even that upgrade along the R5 path will give you better perf from that 1070 too.

 

[byler47]

You'd probably get more for it selling the components individually, but for the whole unit I'd say you're looking at it being worth maybe 600-700 bucks if you find the right buyer. Used hardware does not maintain a lot of value due to it's very risky nature for most buyers.

Also, there are no Gold rated CX power supplies. The CX models are all Bronze.

How much more would you say I could get if I parted it out? Also the 80+ Gold was a typo on my part, had a brainfart.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I have no idea. Whatever somebody is willing to pay. Your best bet is to look at recently SOLD items on Ebay, and see what they actually sold for. Don't look at the listed price, because that doesn't tell you whether they were actually able to find a buyer while it was priced like that.

 

[USAFRet]

One of the considerations with parting it out is being left with parts that no one wants or too hard to ship.
Your GPU will go quickly.
The case/PSU/fans? Unless it is a local buyer, not so much.

Do you still have the original boxes for these parts?

 

[byler47]

I agree, and if it were me, I'd simply put a more capable CPU in there. Maybe a new motherboard as well, but technically that motherboard should be able to handle a Ryzen 5 3600 or something similar with little problem. I don't like the fact that it's a 1st gen chipset because the newer chipsets have much better memory compatibility, even after you factor in BIOS updates, but it COULD still work out as a less expensive alternative if you wanted to go that route.

Otherwise, you could do something like this and have a MUCH more capable system, with a pretty minimal investment, and if you're not gaming at a higher resolution that 1080p, or gaming on multiple monitors, then the GPU card you have now is more than adequate for any AAA game at 1080p.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $333.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-02 02:26 EDT-0400

I want to upgrade the GPU to a 2080/2070 super, the motherboard to an x470, the RAM to 32gb 3200mhz, and the CPU to an R7 2700X or an R5 3600/X. I'd also want the newer version of my case, the Eclipse P400A, because of the mesh front having better airflow, which is important to me because under full load, my GPU and CPU temps can rise to about 70°C relatively easily. I understand most of this is due to the GPU bottleneck and not having a proper CPU cooler, but I still would personally rather have that case. I want to upgrade so many different things I figured I should just start from scratch.

As of about a month ago, I currently run a 1440p 144hz monitor where previously I ran a 1080p 144hz , so that's the reasoning behind the drastic upgrades. I also to a lot of video and photo editing as well as various multitasking.

 

[byler47]

One of the considerations with parting it out is being left with parts that no one wants or too hard to ship.
Your GPU will go quickly.
The case/PSU/fans? Unless it is a local buyer, not so much.

Do you still have the original boxes for these parts?

No, I don't

 

[helper800]

My opinion is that you could sell that comp no questions asked for 500-550 and just make a new build considering all the upgrades you want to make.

 

[Darkbreeze]

My advice, based on what you've said so far?

Sell the graphics card, motherboard and CPU to somebody as a bundle, if you can find a buyer considering the low performance nature of the CPU. I've seen much worse hardware be sold, so it's certainly possible if you price it right.

As far as the case, it would probably be a lot cheaper to simply mod the front panel, if you are "handy" at all with that type of thing. Plenty you could do that would not be terribly difficult.

Modding noob - Making P400S' front panel more airflowish

Hello, i have noticed how big cancer is the P400S' front panel with only very smol intakes, so i want to mod it. I am really bad at drawing (and basically everything involving arts & crafts), so i made some basic designs using paint. I would put some kind of metal or plastic mesh in the holes...

linustechtips.com

https://imgur.com/a/Manrb

View: https://imgur.com/gallery/Manrb



It might also be worth contacting Phanteks directly to see if the P400a front panel is available separately as it's likely it will fit the regular P400 chassis. Seems I saw something about that on a link related to Phanteks facebook page, but I don't frequent Facebook so I can't tell you for sure.

 

[punkncat]

As a side note, I also utilized the Phanteks P400....loved the way it looked from the moment I saw it. Was the first case I ever bought where looks were more a consideration than cost.

I sure wish I had found all the 'poor airflow' reviews first...lol. Cooling this case has been a bit of a challenge. I have come to find that removal of the front dust traps helped. I use two fans in front, low, and two fans in back/top. I found that adding another fan on the forward/top slot actually increased temps some. Having even and inexpensive tower cooler helped a lot as well.
Of most import in my own case was to use Afterburner to create a more aggressive GPU fan curve such that the fans are never below ~25%, and peak at around 60% unless the temps on the GPU approach 80, then ramp up to 90. What I was finding was that temps on the mobo and CPU would be fine until gaming when the GPU would reach the stock fan curve activation point. The poorly ventilated case would then flood with the heated air off the GPU and everything would reach a bad point, quickly, and not come down.
I have also found (as evidenced by dust) that my case is drawing air in through the back pane a lot as well.

With it set up this way, my most demanding games run the GPU at around 76 peak, and the CPU rarely goes above the 75 point, more often in the 60's (1080 and 2700x).

 

[byler47]

My advice, based on what you've said so far?

Sell the graphics card, motherboard and CPU to somebody as a bundle, if you can find a buyer considering the low performance nature of the CPU. I've seen much worse hardware be sold, so it's certainly possible if you price it right.

As far as the case, it would probably be a lot cheaper to simply mod the front panel, if you are "handy" at all with that type of thing. Plenty you could do that would not be terribly difficult.

Modding noob - Making P400S' front panel more airflowish

Hello, i have noticed how big cancer is the P400S' front panel with only very smol intakes, so i want to mod it. I am really bad at drawing (and basically everything involving arts & crafts), so i made some basic designs using paint. I would put some kind of metal or plastic mesh in the holes...

linustechtips.com

https://imgur.com/a/Manrb

View: https://imgur.com/gallery/Manrb



It might also be worth contacting Phanteks directly to see if the P400a front panel is available separately as it's likely it will fit the regular P400 chassis. Seems I saw something about that on a link related to Phanteks facebook page, but I don't frequent Facebook so I can't tell you for sure.

I'm surprised I never thought of that as a solution to the poor airflow, so thanks for suggesting it! I fortunately have all the tools necessary for that, so I'll give it a shot. I'll also look into that CPU GPU mobo bundle thing.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Cool man. I'm sure any of us will be glad to answer any questions you might have if you come up with any later on, and I'm sure you will.