[SOLVED] Can someone review this list for bottlenecks and compatibility?

Why_Me

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@Justinplayz235 your choice of board has horrible VRM's not to mention your build lacks balance. You have way too much money sunk into the RGB which is killing your budget as far as a gaming build goes. Get yourself a cheap USB flash drive, download Windows Installer and use the free version of Windows for now.

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854116
Phanteks Eclipse G360A Mid Tower Case $99.99

Rear exhaust fan for that case.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GJGF56L
ARCTIC P12 PWM 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan $9.48

https://www.newegg.com/evga-550-b5-220-b5-0550-v1-550w/p/N82E16817438167
EVGA 550 B5 80+ BRONZE 550W Modular Power Supply $66.47

MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $119.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NPJRDGD
Intel Core i5-12400F $159.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098D84SLF
Thermalright Assassin X 120 SE CPU Cooler $19.90

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T
TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $47.99

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-NVMe-Gen3x4-SP001TBP34A60M28/dp/B07ZGJVTZK/
Silicon Power 1TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 SSD $57.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPRMVWB
MSI RTX 3060 Ventus 2X OC 12GB Graphics Card $369.48

Total: $951.28

A better look at those components.

https://phanteks.com/Eclipse-G360A.html

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4
 
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Get a better psu. That one is pretty bad for a gaming rig. It's not the size, but the quality, it's on the bottom of the totem pole.

Get a cpu with igpu, non-F. One day that extra few $$ will pay off, and if it's never used its simply just good insurance if the gpu ever goes belly-up.

Those extra fans are for looks only, they'll not really do anything since most fans will never spin at full 100% rated speed, so that lousy 55cfm from a 140mm fan will only get worse. A halfway decent 140mm should be pushing closer to 100cfm at max speeds.
 
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@Justinplayz235 your choice of board has horrible VRM's not to mention your build lacks balance. You have way too much money sunk into the RGB which is killing your budget as far as a gaming build goes. Get yourself a cheap USB flash drive, download Windows Installer and use the free version of Windows for now.

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854116
Phanteks Eclipse G360A Mid Tower Case $99.99

Rear exhaust fan for that case.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GJGF56L
ARCTIC P12 PWM 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan $9.48

https://www.newegg.com/evga-550-b5-220-b5-0550-v1-550w/p/N82E16817438167
EVGA 550 B5 80+ BRONZE 550W Modular Power Supply $66.47

MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $119.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NPJRDGD
Intel Core i5-12400F $159.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098D84SLF
Thermalright Assassin X 120 SE CPU Cooler $19.90

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T
TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $47.99

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-NVMe-Gen3x4-SP001TBP34A60M28/dp/B07ZGJVTZK/
Silicon Power 1TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 SSD $57.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPRMVWB
MSI RTX 3060 Ventus 2X OC 12GB Graphics Card $369.48

Total: $951.28

A better look at those components.

https://phanteks.com/Eclipse-G360A.html

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4
 
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@Justinplayz235 your choice of board has horrible VRM's not to mention your build lacks balance. You have way too much money sunk into the RGB which is killing your budget as far as a gaming build goes. Get yourself a cheap USB flash drive, download Windows Installer and use the free version of Windows for now.

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854116
Phanteks Eclipse G360A Mid Tower Case $99.99

Rear exhaust fan for that case.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GJGF56L
ARCTIC P12 PWM 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan $9.48

https://www.newegg.com/evga-550-b5-220-b5-0550-v1-550w/p/N82E16817438167
EVGA 550 B5 80+ BRONZE 550W Modular Power Supply $66.47

MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $119.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NPJRDGD
Intel Core i5-12400F $159.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098D84SLF
Thermalright Assassin X 120 SE CPU Cooler $19.90

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7T
TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $47.99

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-NVMe-Gen3x4-SP001TBP34A60M28/dp/B07ZGJVTZK/
Silicon Power 1TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 SSD $57.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPRMVWB
MSI RTX 3060 Ventus 2X OC 12GB Graphics Card $369.48

Total: $951.28

A better look at those components.

https://phanteks.com/Eclipse-G360A.html

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4
is this error important?
 
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So in PcPartPicker it has a message that says

Warning: The MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D43v11. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

and also has another message saying

The MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the EVGA 550 B5 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not have any available. This connector is used to supply additional current. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands or extreme overclocking may require it.
 
INTEL:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($73.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Video Card ($369.48 @ B&H)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.90 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1043.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-31 12:06 EDT-0400


AMD:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($158.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($73.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Video Card ($369.48 @ B&H)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.90 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1008.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-31 12:12 EDT-0400



  • No need for extra case fans, the ones included in the Pure Base 500DX will be enough to keep the components at good temp.
  • Intel CPU have iGPU, AMD one doesn't have one included.
  • Both CPUs include stock fans on the box, but still a cheap tower fan can keep this cpus cooler and let them boost higher and for longer time.
  • AMD mobo comes with BIOS flashback, Intel one does not.
  • The Corsair PSU should be plenty enough for this components and even higher ones too.
 
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Eximo

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My suggestion:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($176.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: EK AIO 280 D-RGB 116 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($104.38 @ Newegg Sellers)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST A-RGB 0dB 48.8 CFM 120 mm Fan ($16.29 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST A-RGB 0dB 48.8 CFM 120 mm Fan ($16.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $993.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-31 12:17 EDT-0400
 
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INTEL:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($73.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Video Card ($369.48 @ B&H)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.90 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1043.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-31 12:06 EDT-0400


AMD:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($158.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($73.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Video Card ($369.48 @ B&H)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.90 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1008.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-31 12:12 EDT-0400



  • No need for extra case fans, the ones included in the Pure Base 500DX will be enough to keep the components at good temp.
  • Intel CPU have iGPU, AMD one doesn't have one included.
  • Both CPUs include stock fans on the box, but still a cheap tower fan can keep this cpus cooler and let them boost higher and for longer time.
  • AMD mobo comes with BIOS flashback, Intel one does not.
  • The Corsair PSU should be plenty enough for this components and even higher ones too.
BTW you can go a little bit cheaper on the AMD system, by choosing the Ryzen 5 5600 (non-X), which is only slightly slower than the "X" part.

The difference in performance while gaming is about 1% top (usually theres no difference at all), so if you can get it for $20~30 less, then the R5 5600 would be the one I'll pick.

Video for reference:
View: https://youtu.be/ifI9nnmW5sg?t=526
 

Karadjgne

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So in PcPartPicker it has a message that says

Warning: The MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D43v11. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

and also has another message saying

The MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the EVGA 550 B5 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not have any available. This connector is used to supply additional current. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands or extreme overclocking may require it.
1. The 12400F was released Jan 2022. The B660 boards were released Jan 2022. That means there were a few of the very first released mobo's that were actually built Before Jan 2022, so it's 'possible' but Highly unlikely at this particular date that you could actually buy a B660 from any store that was manufactured Before the 12400F was released. It's because of that 'possibility' that PCP puts up the warning. It's just 99.9999% improbable that you'd get that unlucky.

2. 'While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands or extreme overclocking may require it.'
Really. All that says is don't try to use a 12900k/s with that psu on that mobo. It's a B660, there's No overclocking, simple Or extreme, regardless of a K cpu or not, so that warning seriously does not apply to a 12400F. Period. That warning is PCP saying the psu is craptastic, don't try anything extreme with it because it doesn't support extreme use.

In other words, neither warning applies to you. It's no different than whatever you buy having a warning for ppl who live in California telling them that there's stuff inside that could possibly cause cancer. Well then don't eat that particular auto part then, eat a different brand auto part that doesn't have that warning.
 
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INTEL:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($73.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Video Card ($369.48 @ B&H)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.90 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1043.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-31 12:06 EDT-0400


AMD:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($158.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($73.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Video Card ($369.48 @ B&H)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.90 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1008.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-31 12:12 EDT-0400



  • No need for extra case fans, the ones included in the Pure Base 500DX will be enough to keep the components at good temp.
  • Intel CPU have iGPU, AMD one doesn't have one included.
  • Both CPUs include stock fans on the box, but still a cheap tower fan can keep this cpus cooler and let them boost higher and for longer time.
  • AMD mobo comes with BIOS flashback, Intel one does not.
  • The Corsair PSU should be plenty enough for this components and even higher ones too.
But don't integrated graphics slow the system down and isn't it just a waste of money when you already have a gpu.
 
But don't integrated graphics slow the system down and isn't it just a waste of money when you already have a gpu.
It won't make your system slow... I do not know where did you get that concept.

Also is not a waste of money. Its a resource one can have in case its need it to do some testing. Then again if need it for testing, one can ask a friend or family to borrow a GPU.
 

Karadjgne

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when you already have a gpu
Who says you always have a gpu? What if it breaks and you send it back for rma and that's going to take 3-6 weeks turn around? What if you can sell it for more money than you paid for it, and then need to buy another one? How do you check emails, shop online, do homework, work!

A gpu is no guarantee. An igpu is Cheap insurance. It'll run $30-$50 more, but you'll have the pc for 5 years. That's 50¢-70¢ a month. Really? You can't afford that kind of insurance?
for the power supply I want the motherboard to have max performance
Doesn't have any affect. At all. Doesn't work that way, or even close. That's like thinking a higher CCA battery that says Gold on it is going to make a car go faster. It's not. It's going to be more reliable, last longer, have cleaner output and a much better warranty. It means when you turn the key, the starter goes ra-ra-ra-ra-ra instead of raaaaa-raaaa-tick-tick-tick... Same applies to the psu in a pc. Stay away from junk or it will leave you stranded with grocery bags full of frozen foods.
 

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