can the (GA-78LMT-USB3) 760G handle the fx 8300?

[george mm]

hi i have a GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 (rev. 6.0) AM3+ AMD 760G + SB710 USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

and i was going to upgrad from the FX-4100 to the FX-8300

some Moderators here said it wood work

i'm just double checking

 

[elbert]

Yes it supports the CPU and even the higher end 8370 125W CPUs. Here is the compatiblity list. Its the 7th one on the list as long as you have the F3 bios.

AMD FX-8300 3300MHz 1MBx8 8MB Vishera 32nm C0 95W 5200 F3

http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4305

Here is the link to the bios verisons.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4305#bios

 

[madmatt30]

The little gigabyte will run a 8300 with no issue.

What prices are we looking at here though.??

The reason being on that particular board I would take a 6300 with an aftermarket cooler over an 8300 if it can be done for the same price.

There's room for fairly heavy overclocking a 6 core (not so much for an 8 core)

& the fact is a 6300 with 6 cores at 4.2ghz is just straight out going to beat a stock 8300 if its gaming you're looking at.

 

[george mm]

The little gigabyte will run a 8300 with no issue.

What prices are we looking at here though.??

The reason being on that particular board I would take a 6300 with an aftermarket cooler over an 8300 if it can be done for the same price.

There's room for fairly heavy overclocking a 6 core (not so much for an 8 core)

& the fact is a 6300 with 6 cores at 4.2ghz is just straight out going to beat a stock 8300 if its gaming you're looking at.

i'm looking at streaming

and i was told that the 8300 beat the 6300 for streaming games on twitch
ill be using OBS streaming at 720p 60fps

 

[weberdarren97]

I agree that the FX 6300 is a better choice. The six core FX CPUs overclock much better on lower chipsets than the eight core ones do. And with games, clock speed is more important than core count as long as you have at least four threads.

Although I feel that I should say that my brother managed to kill one of these boards while only using an FX 4100. He used the board for about eight months until a strange fluid started running out from underneath the heatsink to the left of the socket. About two days after noticing that, the board refused to boot no matter what hardware we hooked it up to.

 

[weberdarren97]

The little gigabyte will run a 8300 with no issue.

What prices are we looking at here though.??

The reason being on that particular board I would take a 6300 with an aftermarket cooler over an 8300 if it can be done for the same price.

There's room for fairly heavy overclocking a 6 core (not so much for an 8 core)

& the fact is a 6300 with 6 cores at 4.2ghz is just straight out going to beat a stock 8300 if its gaming you're looking at.

i'm looking at streaming

and i was told that the 8300 beat the 6300 for streaming games on twitch
ill be using OBS streaming at 720p 60fps

If you have an Nvidia graphics card, OBS will use the GPU to render the recordings/streams and there will be very little load on the CPU other than the game itself.

 

[george mm]

1. i'm not looking to overclock

2. i have had my Motherboard for 2 years now

3. i have a msi amd r7 250x

4. win i stream on OBS at 720p 60fps now as my pc sits my sream lags the sound dies and OBS tells me i need more CPU

 

[weberdarren97]

1. i'm not looking to overclock

2. i have had my Motherboard for 2 years now

3. i have a msi amd r7 250x

4. win i stream on OBS at 720p 60fps now as my pc sits my sream lags the sound dies and OBS tells me i need more CPU

The FX 6300 at stock clocks should solve that problem. If you're unhappy with its performance, just increase the clock speed.

 

[madmatt30]

The issue with the 8300 is that at stock its a weak performer when it comes to multi threading.
You can look at the 4.2ghz turbo speed & comparisons on CPU boss etc & assume its significantly stronger than a 6300.

Look into it further & you'll find at stock speeds the following.

The 8300 can hit 4 GHz on 4 cores while lowering 4 remaining cores to 3000mhz OR 4.2GHZ on 2 cores while lowering 6 remaining cores to 3000mhz.

3000mhz is a big big drop if a title is multithreaded, if all cores are symmetrically loaded the whole chip will just sit at the base 3.3ghz.

Fx 6300 - 4.1 GHz on 2 cores , 4 cores drop to 3300mhz OR 3.8 GHZ on 4 cores with 2 cores dropped to 3300mhz.

Bear in mind the above is at stock settings but generally in gaming (especially with amd chips) core speed is key performance wise

You can just disable turbo & set a 6300 to 3.8ghz on a stock cooler with absolutely no voltage or temp increase over stock settings.
That is something you just cannot do with an 8300 unless you're one of the minority who get a 'golden' chip by fluke.

I'm not saying the 8300 isn't a better chip, it is but not at stock speeds irregardless of the 2 extra threads.
& with that board a 6 core is far more suited for overclocking than an 8 core.
As weberdarren97 mentions above if you have an nvidia 7** series or newer offloading to the nvenc encoder removes a huge amount of CPU overhead for streaming.

All the above is going to be dependant on the main titles you're streaming aswell ?

 

[george mm]

ok i'm going to look in to the FX 6300

but you say it can take the work load that comes with gaming and streaming at the same time?

and not need to be O.C. to do it?

 

[george mm]

The issue with the 8300 is that at stock its a weak performer when it comes to multi threading.
You can look at the 4.2ghz turbo speed & comparisons on CPU boss etc & assume its significantly stronger than a 6300.

Look into it further & you'll find at stock speeds the following.

The 8300 can hit 4 GHz on 4 cores while lowering 4 remaining cores to 3000mhz OR 4.2GHZ on 2 cores while lowering 6 remaining cores to 3000mhz.

3000mhz is a big big drop if a title is multithreaded, if all cores are symmetrically loaded the whole chip will just sit at the base 3.3ghz.

Fx 6300 - 4.1 GHz on 2 cores , 4 cores drop to 3300mhz OR 3.8 GHZ on 4 cores with 2 cores dropped to 3300mhz.

Bear in mind the above is at stock settings but generally in gaming (especially with amd chips) core speed is key performance wise

You can just disable turbo & set a 6300 to 3.8ghz on a stock cooler with absolutely no voltage or temp increase over stock settings.
That is something you just cannot do with an 8300 unless you're one of the minority who get a 'golden' chip by fluke.

I'm not saying the 8300 isn't a better chip, it is but not at stock speeds irregardless of the 2 extra threads.
& with that board a 6 core is far more suited for overclocking than an 8 core.
As weberdarren97 mentions above if you have an nvidia 7** series or newer offloading to the nvenc encoder removes a huge amount of CPU overhead for streaming.

All the above is going to be dependant on the main titles you're streaming aswell ?

ill be streaming titles like dark souls 3. war thunder. new battlefront. maybe titanfall2.

and i'm not looking for the ultra high settings

i'm just looking to get started you know

 

[madmatt30]

I never run chips at stock mate in all honesty.
Give me a while (may be tomorrow) & I'll hunt my old threads down.

I did a big comparison ages back which showed you can run a 6300@ 3.8ghz with no temp increase & actually lower voltage than at stock setting.

& this was not any kind of expert scenario , this was a simple disable turbo, set multiplier to 19 exercise .
On a 4 phase board like yours without touching voltages or anything else & is IMO the way a 6300 should be run even if you have no interest in overclocking.

Multi-threaded wise it pushes 15-20% more performance than at stock with virtually no downsides at all.
Turbocore clocks are just pointless specs yo look at with fx chips in this day & age , worked well up to 2013 but not now games are multi-threaded.

What games are you actually streaming ??
60fps constant with a 250x even at 720p is a big ask

 

[george mm]

I never run chips at stock mate in all honesty.
Give me a while (may be tomorrow) & I'll hunt my old threads down.

I did a big comparison ages back which showed you can run a 6300@ 3.8ghz with no temp increase & actually lower voltage than at stock setting.

& this was not any kind of expert scenario , this was a simple disable turbo, set multiplier to 19 exercise .
On a 4 phase board like yours without touching voltages or anything else & is IMO the way a 6300 should be run even if you have no interest in overclocking.

Multi-threaded wise it pushes 15-20% more performance than at stock with virtually no downsides at all.
Turbocore clocks are just pointless specs yo look at with fx chips in this day & age , worked well up to 2013 but not now games are multi-threaded.

What games are you actually streaming ??
60fps constant with a 250x even at 720p is a big ask

i'm not actually streaming now my fx-4100 cant do it, its to big of a work load for it to run a game like war thunder and OBS and twitch at the same time

but win i'm not streaming i can play new battlefront at 1920x1080 on ultra high settings and get 60+FPS ez

 

[weberdarren97]

Why are you running Twitch while streaming? That should be done on a different machine or else you'll saturate the network connection on your computer. Why upload it to Twitch if it's just going to download it to cache and display it in Twitch on the same screen? In my opinion, that's a waste of CPU power and network resources. I recommend using a separate machine or mobile device to monitor Twitch, that way, you're not loading up your gaming machine with unnecessary tasks.

 

[george mm]

1. i have 2 screens

2. most of the high end streamers have 1 pc

3. it cost more to have 2 computer and to have them going at the same time

4. idk what 4 is

5. my parents

i know i can make a new one all i need is a cpu like the AMD A10-7860K with AMD quiet cooler Quad-Core Socket FM2+ 65W and a Motherboard like the ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+ FM2+ and maybe a hard drive and boom now i have 2 PC, 1 for gaming and streaming and 1 for viewing my own stream and chat

i might need some ram....this is starting to cost a lot more than i thought

but now you know why i don't have 2 PCs

 

[madmatt30]

Have you looked into the vce supported builds of obs ??

https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/obs-branch-with-amd-vce-support.13996/

Because usimg the vce encoding feature built into amd cards removes about 95% of the cpu overheads associated with obs.