can the XSPC dual d5 pumps in the AX 360 handle this?

[Seraph21]

Will the dual d6 reservoir pumps from the raystorm AX360 kit run a seperate photon reservoir, an alphacool Monsta dual 120x80mm radiator and two ekcw gtx970 g1 GPU waterworks? It's just that it's a lot of fluid, close to 600mm of total radiator length with the double wide Monsta and three cooling blocks. What do you guys say? Thanks for your input.

 

[wss_003]

the 80mm think rads are not worth it in my opinion i have a 360 thats 80mm think and wish i hadnt gotten it as for running your loop you should be okay

 

[rubix_1011]

Radiators aren't restrictive like blocks are and it has nothing to do with the amount of liquid volume in a loop. It's all about restriction and flow rate.

 

[Seraph21]

why don't you like the radiator?

 

[rubix_1011]

Who is your question directed to?

 

[Seraph21]

To wss. He said the double thickness radiators aren't worth it. I was wondering if he could tell me about his experience with them.

 

[rubix_1011]

You just need good fans to ensure you can push air through them, otherwise they should work great given the increase of surface area you're providing. An 80mm thick rad is similar to what you'd see (in theory) to using two 40mm rads, although you still have to do some maths on actual surface area, airflow over the fins, etc.

But as far as pushing liquid volume through it, you shouldn't have an issue. Radiators are almost always very low resistance when it comes to flow due to the number of channels being run in parallel through them.

 

[Seraph21]

Alright. So I was looking at the Noctua industrial fans for the 80mm radiator. Have you heard anything about them?

 

[rubix_1011]

Have a link for them?

 

[wss_003]

I dont care for the rad as it is very large and compared to the performance increase of my other 360mm rad its not worth the hassle of finding mounting solutions that work and still give a clean look...had the temps gone down enough to push a higher oc i would be fin with it but they dont and ive used many different fan combos on it and nothing more than a 2-3 degree drop compared to my other rad

 

[rubix_1011]

I'd like to test rads like this, but I'm not in the market to just buy radiators to test. I could put together a test bench to do all this for a few hundred bucks, but there's already several guys on the web that already do this AND get gear sent to them to test.

That being said, I find it difficult to believe that a very thick (80mm) 360 rad would not cool any better than a 35-40mm thick 360 rad. The issue comes down to actual loop load and Delta-T and you probably don't have a significant enough of load to see a valid temp change. You have to push the load limits of a radiator with a constant heat source (stick heater in a controlled loop) in order to determine it's full cooling potential as a value that is constant and does not introduce variables. I'd be willing to bet that if you ran those 2 rads in the exact same control scenarios using a 500w or 600w control, you'd definitely see a difference.

 

[Seraph21]

Here is the link to the fans. http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=produkte&lng=en#industrialPPC

 

[rubix_1011]

Sure, Noctuas are good fans, but those are pricey. I like Ultra Kaze fans...they are thicker, but also cheaper and they can really move air. I guess it depends on what you want and how much you want to spend. You can get 2-packs of Corsair SP 120's for the cost of one of those Noctuas.

 

[wss_003]

well heres what i can tell you rubix_1011 I have ran both rads in the same loop and the load was two 290xs running benchmark loops and the temp of the coolant is constantly monitored with a temp sensor and was at min of 15 degrees about ambient temp with the 40mm rad and 13 with the 80 regardless of push pull or what fans so your theory however valid has been dis proven in a real world use scenario so even if it performs better in a hypothetical load test why waste the space and money when it does nothing in a real world environment

 

[rubix_1011]

It really depends what ambient was for each measurement...if it's measured to be the same, then OK, but that wasn't defined.

Your post was a little difficult to follow with all the content running together in a single sentence.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Thanks.

 

[Justin Piencikowski]

well if you are still thinking of that fat rad you might want to check into airplex they make some nice rad and they preforme very well. and imho look better then those monsta rads. in my loop im running xspc ex rads a 360 up top and a 280 in front. love the temps and the look