[SOLVED] Can you help me pick between these 2 gaming PCs? Which has the best value?

[Smooth-Op]

Hey guys!

I used to build my gaming PCs but no longer have much time and I feel like the potential savings isn't what is was say 10 years ago.

So... I've been hesitating between these 2 (please note these are Canadian prices) :

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/produc...-i7-11700f-1tb-ssd-16gb-ram-rtx-3070/15463574

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/produc...0x-1tb-ssd-16gb-ram-geforce-rtx-3060/15397184

I'm looking for a well rounded gaming PC that I won't have to change anything for a good 3-4 years minimum.
Do you think the SSDs included are NVMe?
I'd like it to be able to run Elden Ring properly on a 144hz monitor.

Thanks!

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

a i7-11700F + RTX 3070 is definitely going to give some better fps with some better graphical settings in-game compared to the 5800x + RTX 3060.

but for any real comparison and recommendation you will have to determine what make & model power supply and what CPU cooler both system's are equipped with.

also read any provided warranty information offered by the manufacturer before purchase.
if either do not include shipping, parts & labor for any decent amount of time you do not want them.

i would always recommend going to any locally owned computer shops and comparing their options for building custom systems before purchasing anything pre-built like these.

Do you think the SSDs included are NVMe?

if Best Buy doesn't include the specifics regarding drive make & model contact the manufacturer for details.

 

[Why_Me]

Here's another option. This gpu meant for gaming at 1080P.

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00115038
Lian Li LANCOOL 215 X Gaming Case $129.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1938&item_id=123982
Seasonic FOCUS 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply $69.99

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813144531
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $179.99

https://www.newegg.ca/intel-core-i5-12400f-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118360
Intel Core i5-12400F $229.99

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00120087
DeepCool GAMMAXX 400 V2 CPU Cooler $26.99

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX61227
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $87.99

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX80115
WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 PCI-E NVMe SSD $119.99

https://www.amazon.ca/Graphics-DisplayPort-Axial-tech-technology-capacitors/dp/B09CBQYXLN/
ASUS KO NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti OC V2 LHR 8GB Graphics Card $918.40

https://www.amazon.ca/Window-64-bit-Flash-Update-Windws/dp/B09PGKVGZ6/
Window 10 Home USB 32/64-bit | Free Update to Windows 11 $109.95

Total: $1873 CAD *not including shipping

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4

LANCOOL 215 - Best Budget Airflow Case

Equiped with two 200mm ARGB fan and one 120 fan at the rear. The mesh panel in the front creates a great airflow without bring the dust in. Include top and bottom honeycomb filtered vents, wide fan/radiator combination support, and multiple cable management solutions for the DIY users to fit...

lian-li.com

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

 

[Why_Me]

i7 version of that build up above. Just swap out the cpu + cpu cooler.

https://www.newegg.ca/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $429.99

DEEPCOOL AK620 High-Performance CPU Cooler, Dual-Tower Design, 2X 120mm Fluid Dynamic Bearing Fans, 6 Copper Heat Pipes, 260W Heat Dissipation : Amazon.ca: Industrial & Scientific

DEEPCOOL AK620 High-Performance CPU Cooler, Dual-Tower Design, 2X 120mm Fluid Dynamic Bearing Fans, 6 Copper Heat Pipes, 260W Heat Dissipation : Amazon.ca: Industrial & Scientific

www.amazon.ca

DEEPCOOL AK620 CPU Cooler $84.99

Total: $2131 CAD *not including shipping

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-review

 

[Smooth-Op]

Thank you so much for the detailed suggestion but I really don't have the time to build it myself and especially risk having issues while building it / replacing parts etc.

So I was about to purchase this one (1st from my original post)
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/hp-omen-30l-gaming-pc-intel-core-i7-11700f-1tb-ssd-16gb-ram-rtx-3070/15463574?irclickid=1QpTbkWolxyIRN2wXL3T83lyUkGT:xw93zGNxM0&ref=affiliate&utm_content=221109&utm_source=IR&acmp=Future PLC.&utm_term=641744&irgwc=1

But I took a look at Walmart's gaming PC and found this one:
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/cyberp...op-amd-ryzen-5-5600x-gma9108wv3/6000203139384

It seems like the one from Walmart has a slightly better CPU. The GPU is a RTX 3060 but is had 12GB instead of BestBuy's 8GB so I'm unsure which GPU is better.


And then there's this one from Staples.ca (also a RTX 3060 12GB but the CPU is a i7-12700KF):
https://www.staples.ca/products/302...2700kf-1tb-nvme-ssd-16gb-ddr4-windows-11-home

 

[jacob249358]

I would take a look at Newegg's abs master PC. They don't use proprietary parts.

 

[Smooth-Op]

I would take a look at Newegg's abs master PC. They don't use proprietary parts.

You're right... this one for example looks pretty good
https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali590/p/N82E16883360225?Item=N82E16883360225

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

It seems like the one from Walmart has a slightly better CPU. The GPU is a RTX 3060 but is had 12GB instead of BestBuy's 8GB so I'm unsure which GPU is better.

the i7-11700F is actually quite a bit better than the 5600x.
and the 8GB RTX 3070 is quite a bit better than the 12GB 3060, even with less VRAM.

but the ABS pre-built systems from Newegg are better overall than either HP Omen or anything from Cyberpower.
the Omen systems are known to be loaded with lower quality components; RAM, motherboard, PSU, cooling, drives, etc.
and Cyberpower is known for having some of worst quality assurance and customer support; incorrectly installing parts, etc without proper testing and having very shady warranty services.

this one for example looks pretty good
https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali590/p/N82E16883360225?Item=N82E16883360225

if going for a system with a higher-end i7 12th gen you may want to also go ahead with a higher end GPU that can make full use of it's processing power, ie; RTX 3080, 3080 Ti, 3090...
being included with a pre-built system you can sometimes save at least a few hundred dollars on the included GPU vs MSRP.

not that an RTX 3070 will cause any issues for you but the i7-12700KF can process and provide much more graphical data than a 3070 can keep up with so having a higher-end RTX will provide a lot more fps and better in-game graphical quality.