Can you run FarCry full deail with a 9800 Pro and Barton 3..

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I tried it with my 9600 Pro and Xp 2400 cpu and it plays i get all the
cool shadows and such makes the game look great but it slugs arround.

With a 9800 Pro and Barton 3200 and PC 3200 ram 200fsb what can i
expect FPS wise for an average and maxium ?

Thanks.

 

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We Live for the One we Die for the One wrote:

> I tried it with my 9600 Pro and Xp 2400 cpu and it plays i get all the
> cool shadows and such makes the game look great but it slugs arround.
>
> With a 9800 Pro and Barton 3200 and PC 3200 ram 200fsb what can i
> expect FPS wise for an average and maxium ?
>
> Thanks.
>

P4 northy, 13 multiplier, 3.37 Ghz., 1gig mem
x800pro.....

It slugs around on my system too....of course I run at 1900x1200.
At 1280x768 it's a dream (well, except for the low res graphics)

Jeff B

 

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:28:58 +1000, We Live for the One we Die for the
One <Mr fred@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>
>I tried it with my 9600 Pro and Xp 2400 cpu and it plays i get all the
>cool shadows and such makes the game look great but it slugs arround.
>
>With a 9800 Pro and Barton 3200 and PC 3200 ram 200fsb what can i
>expect FPS wise for an average and maxium ?

I play with all SETTINGS on max (except Shadows, on 2nd highest, since
its not that much better) with my 9800Pro.... AMD 2500 CPU (nothing
overclocked).

Consider an X800 (Non Pro) for perhaps $250 or so,,, who knows.

But 9800Pros (by ATI) are selling for $200 nowadays. NON ATI brand
9800Pros may nOT be true PROs.


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- 15yr old boy in Washington was disciplined for drawing such images.
- White House blows cover of an undercover agent because her husband said there were no WMD (before the USA started the war) - her job was finding terrorist. (This makes sense?)
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223FSB, 2.2Gig barton, 9800pro...

with all on max, the game is between "about playable" and "barely playable",
depending on the complexity of the scene, but generaly, if I want decent and
constantly pleasant framerate, I have to cut the details quite a bit. So, If
I were you, I would wait for a while, and get a x800.

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v.

 

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I second that with a 9800pro 213fsb/2.33g barton. Check recent posts and
you'll see all kinds of this info.

"Vedran Parac" <privremena.adresa@email.htnet.hr> wrote in message
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> 223FSB, 2.2Gig barton, 9800pro...
>
> with all on max, the game is between "about playable" and "barely
playable",
> depending on the complexity of the scene, but generaly, if I want decent
and
> constantly pleasant framerate, I have to cut the details quite a bit. So,
If
> I were you, I would wait for a while, and get a x800.
>
> --
> v.
>
>

 

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XP1800, 384 MB PC133, 9800Pro. I get 16-20 fps in Far Cry Demo 2 outdoors,
and about 30-35 indoors at 1024x768 no AA. This is with everything set to
Very High and true water reflections + sunshine enabled.

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"We Live for the One we Die for the One" <Mr fred@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
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>
> I tried it with my 9600 Pro and Xp 2400 cpu and it plays i get all the
> cool shadows and such makes the game look great but it slugs arround.
>
> With a 9800 Pro and Barton 3200 and PC 3200 ram 200fsb what can i
> expect FPS wise for an average and maxium ?
>
> Thanks.
>

 

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Geeeeeeeeeeeeez, i am going to wait for my dual or Quad Dual Core Cpu
mobo and and plonk some 3ghz dual Core Amd Cpus in it

And a PCI Express Video card, and 3 Gigs Of DDR3 ram :0


Thats what you will need to play Doom 3 and halflife 2 the way they
should be I HATE technology

Thanks.


On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:29:51 GMT, "First of One" <daxinfx@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>XP1800, 384 MB PC133, 9800Pro. I get 16-20 fps in Far Cry Demo 2 outdoors,
>and about 30-35 indoors at 1024x768 no AA. This is with everything set to
>Very High and true water reflections + sunshine enabled.

 

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Screw that. I'm getting the BitBoys Acceleon G30!

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."



"We Live for the One we Die for the One" <Mr fred@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
message news:ci8uc0dmkb745rbfv7opdlgj9q3ce1fl9o@4ax.com...
>
> Geeeeeeeeeeeeez, i am going to wait for my dual or Quad Dual Core Cpu
> mobo and and plonk some 3ghz dual Core Amd Cpus in it
>
> And a PCI Express Video card, and 3 Gigs Of DDR3 ram :0
>
>
> Thats what you will need to play Doom 3 and halflife 2 the way they
> should be I HATE technology
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:29:51 GMT, "First of One" <daxinfx@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >XP1800, 384 MB PC133, 9800Pro. I get 16-20 fps in Far Cry Demo 2
outdoors,
> >and about 30-35 indoors at 1024x768 no AA. This is with everything set to
> >Very High and true water reflections + sunshine enabled.
>

 

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"Sept1967" <sept1967@highstream(remove).net> wrote in message
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> Didn't consider myself old,
>
> Until you brought it up...
>
> Thanks
>
>

Old dood here too (April 1964) running 9800xt on a P4 3.2 o/c @ 3.8 gig with
1 gig Corsair mem. U2XMP is my game tho, and that runs sweet on my 22" CRT
at 1600 x 1200 and everything up to the max

regards,

Dion L Heap
www.thetophouse.com

 

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Sept1967 wrote:
> Didn't consider myself old,
>
> Until you brought it up...
>
> Thanks
>
>
Relax,

Feb1948.

;-)

 

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Bioboffin wrote:
> Sept1967 wrote:
>> Didn't consider myself old,
>>
>> Until you brought it up...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
> Relax,
>
> Feb1948.
>
> ;-)

That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
McG.

 

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"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bioboffin wrote:
> > Sept1967 wrote:
> >> Didn't consider myself old,
> >>
> >> Until you brought it up...
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> > Relax,
> >
> > Feb1948.
> >
> > ;-)
>
> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
> McG.
>

August 1953, here!

 

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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:16:12 -0500, "3_D" <dennis_darrell@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>> Bioboffin wrote:
>> > Sept1967 wrote:
>> >> Didn't consider myself old,
>> >>
>> >> Until you brought it up...
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Relax,
>> >
>> > Feb1948.
>> >
>> > ;-)
>>
>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>> McG.
>>
>
>August 1953, here!
>

Cor, what a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears striplings! August 1947
here. But I'm sure there are people older than me posting here...

patrickp

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3_D wrote:
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>>>>
>>>> Until you brought it up...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Relax,
>>>
>>> Feb1948.
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>
>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>> McG.
>>
>
> August 1953, here!

Well, looks like it isn't all a bunch of youngsters building, tweaking
and playing games these days! That's really cool!
McG.

 

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patrickp wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:16:12 -0500, "3_D" <dennis_darrell@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>>>>>
>>>>> Until you brought it up...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Relax,
>>>>
>>>> Feb1948.
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>> McG.
>>>
>>
>> August 1953, here!
>>
>
> Cor, what a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears striplings! August 1947
> here. But I'm sure there are people older than me posting here...
>
> patrickp
>
> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me

Hey, that's great Patrick! You play Far Cry too?! Oh, I really like
NOT being the oldest one in the crowd
McG.

 

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:19:56 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>3_D wrote:
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,

>>>>> Until you brought it up...

>>>>> Thanks

>>>> Relax,

>>>> Feb1948.

>>>> ;-)

>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>> McG.

>> August 1953, here!

>Well, looks like it isn't all a bunch of youngsters building, tweaking
>and playing games these days! That's really cool!
>McG.

January 1941, <3 still going strong, and still 'kickin !
BoroLad

 

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<borolad@myowseintheboro.org> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:19:56 GMT, "McGrandpa"
> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>3_D wrote:
>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>
>>>>>> Until you brought it up...
>
>>>>>> Thanks
>
>>>>> Relax,
>
>>>>> Feb1948.
>
>>>>> ;-)
>
>>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>>> McG.
>
>>> August 1953, here!
>
>>Well, looks like it isn't all a bunch of youngsters building, tweaking
>>and playing games these days! That's really cool!
>>McG.
>
> January 1941, <3 still going strong, and still 'kickin !
> BoroLad

Crikey I'm young(ish) April 1963 here - looks like this NG is the place to
come for some wise advice for us *young-uns* ;o)

BillL

 

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Bill Larcombe wrote:
> <borolad@myowseintheboro.org> wrote in message
> news:80fad0pde2mv8a15s5scsri5v4mntj7kbr@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:19:56 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 3_D wrote:
>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>>
>>>>>>> Until you brought it up...
>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>
>>>>>> Relax,
>>
>>>>>> Feb1948.
>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>
>>>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>>>> McG.
>>
>>>> August 1953, here!
>>
>>> Well, looks like it isn't all a bunch of youngsters building,
>>> tweaking and playing games these days! That's really cool!
>>> McG.
>>
>> January 1941, <3 still going strong, and still 'kickin !
>> BoroLad
>
> Crikey I'm young(ish) April 1963 here - looks like this NG is the
> place to come for some wise advice for us *young-uns* ;o)
>
> BillL

It must be pleasant to be able to say that at 41, isn't it?
McG.

 

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:26:23 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>Bill Larcombe wrote:
>> <borolad@myowseintheboro.org> wrote in message
>> news:80fad0pde2mv8a15s5scsri5v4mntj7kbr@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:19:56 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>>> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>>>> 3_D wrote:
>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>>>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,

>>>>>>>> Until you brought it up...

>>>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>>> Relax,

>>>>>>> Feb1948.

>>>>>>> ;-)

>>>>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>>>>> McG.

>>>>> August 1953, here!

>>>> Well, looks like it isn't all a bunch of youngsters building,
>>>> tweaking and playing games these days! That's really cool!
>>>> McG.

>>> January 1941, <3 still going strong, and still 'kickin !
>>> BoroLad

>> Crikey I'm young(ish) April 1963 here - looks like this NG is the
>> place to come for some wise advice for us *young-uns* ;o)

>> BillL

>It must be pleasant to be able to say that at 41, isn't it?
>McG.

I tend to tell people I'm 21-and-a-bit. I just don't tell them how big
the bit is - but it's the same as my waist size and at least twice my
neck

BoroLad

 

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:21:05 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>patrickp wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:16:12 -0500, "3_D" <dennis_darrell@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until you brought it up...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Relax,
>>>>>
>>>>> Feb1948.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>
>>> August 1953, here!
>>>
>>
>> Cor, what a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears striplings! August 1947
>> here. But I'm sure there are people older than me posting here...
>>
>> patrickp
>>
>> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me
>
>Hey, that's great Patrick! You play Far Cry too?! Oh, I really like
>NOT being the oldest one in the crowd
>McG.
>

No, not really a games player, McG, but just dropped in on that part
of the thread. Hm, maybe I should adopt you instead of you adopting
me? Why, you're not even 50 yet! ))

patrickp

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patrickp wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:21:05 GMT, "McGrandpa"
> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> patrickp wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:16:12 -0500, "3_D"
>>> <dennis_darrell@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until you brought it up...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Relax,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feb1948.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> August 1953, here!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cor, what a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears striplings! August 1947
>>> here. But I'm sure there are people older than me posting here...
>>>
>>> patrickp
>>>
>>> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me
>>
>> Hey, that's great Patrick! You play Far Cry too?! Oh, I really
>> like NOT being the oldest one in the crowd
>> McG.
>>
>
> No, not really a games player, McG, but just dropped in on that part
> of the thread. Hm, maybe I should adopt you instead of you adopting
> me? Why, you're not even 50 yet! ))
>
> patrickp
>
> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me

Two weeks! Two stinkin weeks! Then I'll be at the top o th hill
McG.

 

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:45:35 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>patrickp wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:21:05 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> patrickp wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:16:12 -0500, "3_D"
>>>> <dennis_darrell@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>>>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Until you brought it up...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Relax,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feb1948.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> August 1953, here!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cor, what a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears striplings! August 1947
>>>> here. But I'm sure there are people older than me posting here...
>>>>
>>>> patrickp
>>>>
>>>> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me
>>>
>>> Hey, that's great Patrick! You play Far Cry too?! Oh, I really
>>> like NOT being the oldest one in the crowd
>>> McG.
>>>
>>
>> No, not really a games player, McG, but just dropped in on that part
>> of the thread. Hm, maybe I should adopt you instead of you adopting
>> me? Why, you're not even 50 yet! ))
>>
>> patrickp
>>
>> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me
>
>Two weeks! Two stinkin weeks! Then I'll be at the top o th hill
>McG.
>

AIR it didn't actually feel any different.

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1941 ??? DIE ALREADY, stop hogin the worlds resorses and give it to
someone younger


On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:02:58 +0100, borolad@myowseintheboro.org wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:26:23 GMT, "McGrandpa"
><McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Bill Larcombe wrote:
>>> <borolad@myowseintheboro.org> wrote in message
>>> news:80fad0pde2mv8a15s5scsri5v4mntj7kbr@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:19:56 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>>>> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> 3_D wrote:
>>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>>>>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>
>>>>>>>>> Until you brought it up...
>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>
>>>>>>>> Relax,
>
>>>>>>>> Feb1948.
>
>>>>>>>> ;-)
>
>>>>>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>>>>>> McG.
>
>>>>>> August 1953, here!
>
>>>>> Well, looks like it isn't all a bunch of youngsters building,
>>>>> tweaking and playing games these days! That's really cool!
>>>>> McG.
>
>>>> January 1941, <3 still going strong, and still 'kickin !
>>>> BoroLad
>
>>> Crikey I'm young(ish) April 1963 here - looks like this NG is the
>>> place to come for some wise advice for us *young-uns* ;o)
>
>>> BillL
>
>>It must be pleasant to be able to say that at 41, isn't it?
>>McG.
>
>I tend to tell people I'm 21-and-a-bit. I just don't tell them how big
>the bit is - but it's the same as my waist size and at least twice my
>neck
>
>BoroLad

 

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>«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»

>1941 ??? DIE ALREADY, stop hogin the worlds resorses and give it to
>someone younger

Why ?, I can still drink more, shag longer, first on the fight scene
and as you wife said to me in bed this morning I'm quite magical
compared to young people who think it's for stirring their tea with!

BoroLad, |-O

 

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patrickp wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:45:35 GMT, "McGrandpa"
> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> patrickp wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:21:05 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>>> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> patrickp wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:16:12 -0500, "3_D"
>>>>> <dennis_darrell@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:yqYAc.9508$4g1.7710@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>>>>>>> Bioboffin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sept1967 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Didn't consider myself old,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Until you brought it up...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Relax,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Feb1948.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That makes me feel a bit better! July 1954
>>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> August 1953, here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cor, what a bunch of wet-behind-the-ears striplings! August 1947
>>>>> here. But I'm sure there are people older than me posting here...
>>>>>
>>>>> patrickp
>>>>>
>>>>> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me
>>>>
>>>> Hey, that's great Patrick! You play Far Cry too?! Oh, I really
>>>> like NOT being the oldest one in the crowd
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, not really a games player, McG, but just dropped in on that part
>>> of the thread. Hm, maybe I should adopt you instead of you adopting
>>> me? Why, you're not even 50 yet! ))
>>>
>>> patrickp
>>>
>>> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me
>>
>> Two weeks! Two stinkin weeks! Then I'll be at the top o th hill
>> McG.
>>
>
> AIR it didn't actually feel any different.
>
> patrickp
>
> patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me

Yeah, I expect it's just another mile marker
McG.