Question Can you tell me how to install this CPU cooler?

mujmuj

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I bought Scythe Ninja 5 CPU cooler. My motherboard is Z690 Phantom Gaming 4/D5.


1. The mounting kit includes the 4-leg black material (is it called mounting base?). But under my motherboard, there already is a silver-colored thing attached (is it normal?). So if I additionally attach the black material , then the screws do not tightly fit. Maybe, because this motherboard has this silver thing, I don't need to put this black material, and simply just insert the screws only without the black material?





2. Even if I attach the black material, which direction is correct? What does that "TOP" text mean? Perhaps the 2nd (from the left) is the correct position? But all these 4 positions have the problem I mentioned at my question #1.




3. Which direction is correct? Left (pointing inward) or Right (pointing outward)?





I looked at these Youtube tutorials for how to install Ninja 5 onto the PC, but they don't seem to provide a clear and unanimous answer.

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In other words. It was not designed for socket LGA 1700.

You can check with the manufacturer if they offer an appropriate mounting kit. Otherwise your options are to replace the cooler or find an LGA 1700 motherboard that also has the LGA1200 mounting holes.
 

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In other words. It was not designed for socket LGA 1700.

You can check with the manufacturer if they offer an appropriate mounting kit. Otherwise your options are to replace the cooler or find an LGA 1700 motherboard that also has the LGA1200 mounting holes.
I visited the manufacturer and they said the same thing, and gave me a mounting kit for LGA 1700, and I could install the cooler.

A weird thing is that the computer parts compatibility checking website https://pcpartpicker.com said this cooler and my motherboard are compatible. In some sense yes they are compatible, except that the default mounting kit isn't compatible. So maybe these websites don't check the compatibility with the default mounting kit.

How can I check if the default mounting kit is also compatible with my motherboard?
 

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In other words. It was not designed for socket LGA 1700.

You can check with the manufacturer if they offer an appropriate mounting kit. Otherwise your options are to replace the cooler or find an LGA 1700 motherboard that also has the LGA1200 mounting holes.
After checking Amazon pages of several CPU coolers, it seems that virtually no CPU cooler is default compatible with LGA 1700.

Then perhaps, like what I did with Scythe Ninja 5 cooler, whatever CPU cooler I buy, I will most likely have to buy a separate mounting kit for LGA 1700? That's fine because the mounting kit is cheap. I am just wondering whether this is a good way to go.
 

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I visited the manufacturer and they said the same thing, and gave me a mounting kit for LGA 1700, and I could install the cooler.

A weird thing is that the computer parts compatibility checking website https://pcpartpicker.com said this cooler and my motherboard are compatible. In some sense yes they are compatible, except that the default mounting kit isn't compatible. So maybe these websites don't check the compatibility with the default mounting kit.

How can I check if the default mounting kit is also compatible with my motherboard?
Depends when the cooler was made if includes a certain mounting kit.
They can't include a 1700 if it's not out yet.

PCPARTPICKER just does basic checks it's not 100% accurate..
 

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LGA1700 mounting is a bit different.
The holes are spaced wider.
Some LGA1700 motherboards will have dual sets of holes.
But, that is not sufficient.
Intel gen 12 processors are a bit thinner so the mounting kit needs to allow for that.
I they do not, the cooler will hot have sufficient pressure and cooling will not be the best.
coolermakers have generally offered retrofit kits for their coolers for free or at a nominal price.
 

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LGA1700 mounting is a bit different.
The holes are spaced wider.
Some LGA1700 motherboards will have dual sets of holes.
But, that is not sufficient.
Intel gen 12 processors are a bit thinner so the mounting kit needs to allow for that.
I they do not, the cooler will hot have sufficient pressure and cooling will not be the best.
coolermakers have generally offered retrofit kits for their coolers for free or at a nominal price.
So I think your conclusion is that, for this motherboard that I have, I need to get CPU cooler which explicitly says it's compatible with LGA 1700. Is that right?

Then which computer parts comparison website allows us to automatically check this compatibility? pcpartpicker.com does not. I bought this CPU cooler because pcpartpicker.com said it's compatible with my motherboard.
 

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"So I think your conclusion is that, for this motherboard that I have, I need to get CPU cooler which explicitly says it's compatible with LGA 1700. Is that right? Most new coolers will have lga1700 support."
Not exactly.
You need a cooler that IS LGA1700 compatible, regardless of what partpicker or another site says.
Some cooler web sites may not have been updated to say that they include the new mounting kits.
Assuming that the site explicitly states lga1700 support, the problem is that if you buy old stock, you may not get the lga1700 mount.
Hence the possible need to order the upgrade kit.
If you buy from a shop see if you can verify that the cooler comes with the lga1700 mount.

There possibly is even more to possibly worry about from a cooler compatibility perspective.

Strong air coolers will be large, and may have clearance issues with tall ram. Low profile ram like Corsair lpx @32mm will be ok. Tall RGB ram or fancy heat spreaders may not.

Some motherboards will have robust VRM coolers that can conflict with a large cooler.
Asus has some.

Another possible issue is the clearance to graphics card backplates when mounted in the first pcie slot.

Noctua does a nice job of compatibility issues that you can trust.
Here is the chart for your motherboard:
https://ncc.noctua.at/motherboards/model/ASRock-Z690-Phantom-Gaming-4-D5-5350

They also have cpu suitability charts for most processors.
https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/all/LGA 1700
To assess the suitability of other coolers, find a noctua cooler with about the same fin volume as one on the noctua list.
The scythe ninja 5 might be similar to the noctua NH-D15s, a very good cooler.
 
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