[SOLVED] Cannot find TPM

[ARC502]

Hi , I have a really old motherboard (Gigabyte h61 ) and i cannot find the option for TPM even though i searched for hours in my bios. Can somebody please help me i really want to install windows 11😔

 

[Colif]

it probably doesn't have one.

it relies more on the CPU than motherboard

I already can guess your CPU isn't on this list, as My 4690k isn't = https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...pported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors

Its too early to know if the need for a tpm will be removed or not. So I wouldn't worry about it until win 11 actually released

 

[Cj-tech]

Hi , I have a really old motherboard (Gigabyte h61 ) and i cannot find the option for TPM even though i searched for hours in my bios. Can somebody please help me i really want to install windows 11😔

Windows 11 is not officially released yet. If it’s not working on your system, maybe wait for the official release…

 

[COLGeek]

Windows 11 is not available yet (from legit sources).

Also, your old motherboard appears to lack a TPM header and is likely too old to support PTT. It is likely time for an upgrade, if you really want to move to Windows 11.

There is no hurry. I suggest waiting to see if system requirements change prior to the actual release of the OS.

 

[Colif]

Windows 11 is not officially released yet. If it’s not working on your system, maybe wait for the official release…

he didn't say he tried to install 11, he just looking for TPM. Reasonable to look before hand, see if it will work. I did last night and I know its not out for months yet.

 

[Deleted member 14196]

my GTR Pro has a Trusted Platform Module under the Advanced tab in the BIOS.

Once enabled my mini pc says it can run win11, no that i would install an early build on my pc, i will do it in a VM only at this point once insider builds are released

 

[Colif]

its funny, its not out but there re patches for it on windows update... obviously only see them if you have win 11.

asking about TPM doesn't automatically mean they are trying to install win 11 early, people will be curious if they can...

 

[Cj-tech]

he didn't say he tried to install 11, he just looking for TPM. Reasonable to look before hand, see if it will work. I did last night and I know its not out for months yet.

I didn’t specifically say that the OP tried to install it. I said that if it isn’t working, the OP should wait for the official release. I understand your view though and I probably should have worded it differently.

Edit: The OP did say that they wanted to install it though.

 

[bignastyid]

What's the exact model of the motherboard?

 

[LolaGT]

There are many, many thousands(if not millions) of PCs that are not slow(Meaning no one is planning to upgrade them any time soon) that are on sandy/ivy bridge/haswell and older AMD platforms that aren't going to make that requirement if it stays in.
Win10 is still going to be supported for a while so no sense worrying yet. It really depends on MS and is they want those users to switch, if they do then they will drop that requirement.
My next upgrade is going to a i7 4790k, it is going to be what it is for well past 2025 as I won't have the money(fixed income) and while my PCs are not super fast at productivity, they are still reliable and plenty fast enough for the net and most gaming.
I have ran linux before just to look at it, and it will do what most of us need if it actually comes to that.
Again, it will all be up to MS.

 

[hotaru.hino]

The motherboard doesn't have a TPM module port and the CPU doesn't have a secure enclave. So the system can't upgrade to Windows 11.

Although considering the 60 series platform is 10 years old, I'd consider either sticking with Windows 10 or if the computer is really needed, switching to Linux once Windows 10 support ends.

 

[Deleted member 14196]

The motherboard doesn't have a TPM module port and the CPU doesn't have a secure enclave. So the system can't upgrade to Windows 11.

Although considering the 60 series platform is 10 years old, I'd consider either sticking with Windows 10 or if the computer is really needed, switching to Linux once Windows 10 support ends.

this. unless you have newer hardware, just run Win10 until 2025 and get a new machine before that

 

[hotaru.hino]

Also even when support ends, you can still use the OS. You just won't get updates period. While that might sound like a godsend, that also means the longer you use it, the more insecure the OS becomes since security vulnerabilities won't be patched (unless something forces Microsoft's hand to do so)

 

[USAFRet]

Also even when support ends, you can still use the OS. You just won't get updates period. While that might sound like a godsend, that also means the longer you use it, the more insecure the OS becomes since security vulnerabilities won't be patched (unless something forces Microsoft's hand to do so)

Currently, we usually recommend an upgrade from Win 7 to 10. Due to the unsupported Win 7.
But this requires pretty much NO hardware change.

In a few years, will we recommend the same for 10 going to 11?

 

[Colif]

Do updates include defender? no more defender updates after 2025? most people use defender now, having been told they don't need anything else. Oh sudden shock when win 10 stops and you do need one again.

 

[USAFRet]

Do updates include defender? no more defender updates after 2025?

We'll know in 4 years.

 

[Colif]

makes calendar reminder... or would except i don't use calendars

 

[Cj-tech]

I didn’t specifically say that the OP tried to install it. I said that if it isn’t working, the OP should wait for the official release. I understand your view though and I probably should have worded it differently.

Edit: The OP did say that they wanted to install it though.

I guess that the TPM chip is going to be a requirement, according to the official Windows 11 system requirements. I doubt they will change the requirements in the official release.

 

[hotaru.hino]

Currently, we usually recommend an upgrade from Win 7 to 10. Due to the unsupported Win 7.
But this requires pretty much NO hardware change.

In a few years, will we recommend the same for 10 going to 11?

That depends on what the outlook is like when that time comes around. Supposedly Intel's processors since Skylake have a trusted execution environment required for fTMP support. AMD has its PSP as a trusted execution environment, which supposedly has been in its processors (to some varying degree) since 2013. Maybe motherboard manufacturers will start implementing fTPM support for boards that don't have it already. But of course, they really don't have much of an incentive when they can tell people to just buy new boards.

As for hardware that's just too old to support it, if the user really wants to continue using that computer on the internet, I would suggest using Linux. But if they insist on running Windows on the internet, then I'll just leave them with the warning that security risks increase the longer they go. Whether or not they choose to continue using an unsupported OS on an internet connected system is up to them.

It would just be nice to know why Microsoft is requiring TPM this time around, but I can only make guesses.

 

[Colif]

its not even 48 hours since we found out, so I expect in coming weeks/months we might find out why that requirement is there.
Could be to enhance the security of Windows Hello and PIN
could be Bitlocker.

its difficult to say on Bitlocker as only mention of it in the notes is talking about Bitlocker to Go only working in Pro or higher.
there isn't enough info out there to explain it now. I am sure someone knows but it hasn't gotten to us yet.