Canon i860 and ink cartridges

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Anyone here own a Canon i860 inkjet printer? The print quality is very
good, but the damn thing seems to need a new ink cartridge once a month.
This despite the fact I don't use the printer that much. On average, about
4 pages a week. Is this common with this type of model? It has 5 ink
cartridges, which was touted as being a money saving feature. Hah!

 

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Sure, History Fan, I still have a Canon i860 cranking out all sorts of
stuff, but I get a heckuva better cartridge use than you do if you have
to add a new cartridge once a month when averaging only about 16 pages
a month. Maybe if you're running all 8x10 color prints those 16 pages
a month, but otherwise, no--your cartridge use is excessive for what
you do. Don't know why that would be; maybe others can suggest a
reason.

I have no where near that cartridge use. When I print 100 copies of an
8-page class newsletter (that's 800 pages, both full text and 2 or 3
B&W and color pictures per page), I have to change maybe 4, perhaps 5
cartridges depending on the size of the pictures..

If you're using original Canon (expensive) cartridges, I'd heartily
suggest that you try replacement cartridges from Alotofthings.com.
Their cartridges for the i860, using almost universally approved
Formulabs ink, are only about $3.25 each at:

http://www.alotofthings.com/catalog/Cartridges_CanonSpecialsforaug-sept.html

Buy their Arrowjet line, which uses Formulabs ink. The ink is made in
the USA, but the cartridges are loaded in China, then imported back to
California.

I've been using only these cartridges for a couple of years now and
have had perfect satisfaction with them: their color is almost right on
with the Canon originals & I've had no clotting. And the dealer's
service is fast and efficient.

Their cartridges can also be bought on their Ebay site at:

http://stores.ebay.com/ALOT-OF-THINGS_Canon-Cartridges_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQftidZ2QQsclZ0QQtZkm

I'd recommend you be sure you're buying the Arrowjet line of cartidges
there.

My only criticism is that their photo black isn't quite as black as the
Canon original, but it sure is good enough for my class newsletter and
most other stuff, especially at their price. If I have to print some
photos that I want to take special care with, I substitute a Canon
photo black cartridge for the Alotofthings cartridge. But when
finished, I put the Alotofthings photo black back in because it's fine
for most stuff and it costs 1/4 of the cost of Canon original
cartridges.

Over a year ago I did a test of the Alotofthings.com cartridge here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/-printers/mCanonessage/4095

It's over a year old now, but I think it's still relevant.

I'd suggest you try the Alotofthings.com 18-pack for the i860 for
$58.50 (that's $3.25 per cartridge), especially at the rate you're
using up cartridges. Wouldn't you rather be spending $3.25 for those
cartridges than $12+?

I hope somebody else can solve your excessive cartridge use.

Bill Pease

 

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Whoops, that last yahoo.com URL doesn't seem to connect. Here's a copy
of my cartridge review message of July 2004:

I've just completed a simple experiment to compare photo prints
from
my Canon i860 printer using (first) OEM original Canon inks, then
Inkgrabber.com inks and then Alotofthings.com inks in the same
printer. I wanted to find out how these two 3rdparty inks compared
with the OEM Canon inks. I thought readers of this forum might be
interested in the results of this experiment.

As the test print I chose a standard test image whose origin I failed
to note when I saved it from some printer forum on the web several
months ago. Sorry about that. It's the one with the gorgeous
girl's
eyes in the center, the church and sunset pictures at the top, the
baby's face on the right and the color samples at the bottom.
Perhaps
you recognize it from that description. It's a great test print.

First I printed this test image on my i860 Canon printer with the
original Canon inks in it. The result on letter-size Canon Photo
Paper Plus Glossy was gorgeous-perhaps just a trifle
over-saturated
for best taste, but nevertheless, gorgeous enough to melt your
insides.

Then I pulled the OEM Canon ink cartridges from the printer and
substituted Inkgrabber.com ink cartridges. I printed a full color
purge print to get all the residual Canon ink out of the printhead
and then printed the same test image as before using the
Inkgrabber.com inks. The result was lovely on the same paper, but it
differed from the OEM Canon print in the following ways:
1. the grey clock face on the OEM print had taken on a slight
greenish hue
2. the rust-colored bricks of the church on the OEM print had
turned to a dull brown
3. the blue cast of the ocean in the sundown OEM print had
turned to a greenish hue
4. the greyish-blue eyes of the gorgeous girl in the OEM print
had turned to greenish-blue, her skin had turned very pale, and her
eyebrows had turned from brown to greenish-grey
5. the grey-to-black picture of the man in the OEM print had
turned to green-to-black.

In conclusion, the print produced using the Inkgrabber.com ink
cartridges differed considerably from the print produced using the
OEM Canon ink cartridges. Nevertheless, the Inkgrabber.com cartridges
produced a lovely print that might please some even though it did not
duplicate exactly the colors of the OEM Canon print. The
Inkgrabber.com ink cartridges for the Canon i860 printer cost about
$2.00 each.

Then I pulled the Inkgrabber.com cartridges from my printer and
substituted Alotofthings.com cartridges. Again I printed a full color
purge print to get all the residual Inkgrabber ink out of the
printhead and then printed the same test image as before using the
Alotofthings.com inks. The result was gorgeous on the same paper,
ALMOST identical to the OEM Canon print. It differed, ever so
slightly, in the following ways:
1. the grey clock face in the OEM print was just slightly tan
2. the grey parallel lines in the OEM print were just slightly
tan
3. the gorgeous girl's skin tone in the OEM print was just
slightly lighter
4. the grey-to-black picture of the man in the OEM print was
just slightly a little tan.

I would emphasize the word "slightly" here; you had to look
REAL hard
at the print done using Alotofthings.com cartridges to discern any
difference from the print done using OEM Canon cartridges. And the
OEM Canon cartridges cost about $11-$12 each. The Alotofthings.com
cartridges cost me $2.40 each (including postage) when I bought an
i860 combo package that included 18 cartridges of the 5 different
ones for the i860.

I'm not a photo purist (or a pro) who would quibble about the
VERY
slight differences between the OEM Canon print and the
Alotofthings.com print, but I am a retired realist who can appreciate
the fact that the Alotofthings.com cartridges cost one-fifth of what
the OEM Canon cartridges cost while producing gorgeous prints that
are ALMOST identical to the OEM Canon prints. Alotofthings.com is
going to get my cartridge business from now on. I'm going to
print
all my photos and a couple of family history books with them.

By the way, Alotofthings.com also sells bulk ink and paraphernalia
for refillers too. With superb cartridges for just $2.40 each,
though, I can't see much sense to go through the trouble of
refilling
cartridges with all its hassle.
Others may want to.

And I am in no way connected with anybody or anything at
Alotofthings.com except as a happy and very satisfied customer.

Here are the relevant web addresses:

http://www.inkgrabber.com/index.htm

http://www.alotofthings.com/index.html



Happy printing,

Bill Pease

 

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william.pease@verizon.net wrote:

>Whoops, that last yahoo.com URL doesn't seem to connect. Here's a copy
>of my cartridge review message of July 2004:
>
>I've just completed a simple experiment to compare photo prints
>from
>my Canon i860 printer using (first) OEM original Canon inks, then
>Inkgrabber.com inks and then Alotofthings.com inks in the same
>printer. I wanted to find out how these two 3rdparty inks compared
>with the OEM Canon inks. I thought readers of this forum might be
>interested in the results of this experiment.
>
>As the test print I chose a standard test image whose origin I failed
>to note when I saved it from some printer forum on the web several
>months ago. Sorry about that. It's the one with the gorgeous
>girl's
>eyes in the center, the church and sunset pictures at the top, the
>baby's face on the right and the color samples at the bottom.
>Perhaps
>you recognize it from that description. It's a great test print.
>
>First I printed this test image on my i860 Canon printer with the
>original Canon inks in it. The result on letter-size Canon Photo
>Paper Plus Glossy was gorgeous-perhaps just a trifle
>over-saturated
>for best taste, but nevertheless, gorgeous enough to melt your
>insides.
>
>Then I pulled the OEM Canon ink cartridges from the printer and
>substituted Inkgrabber.com ink cartridges. I printed a full color
>purge print to get all the residual Canon ink out of the printhead
>and then printed the same test image as before using the
>Inkgrabber.com inks. The result was lovely on the same paper, but it
>differed from the OEM Canon print in the following ways:
>1. the grey clock face on the OEM print had taken on a slight
>greenish hue
>2. the rust-colored bricks of the church on the OEM print had
>turned to a dull brown
>3. the blue cast of the ocean in the sundown OEM print had
>turned to a greenish hue
>4. the greyish-blue eyes of the gorgeous girl in the OEM print
>had turned to greenish-blue, her skin had turned very pale, and her
>eyebrows had turned from brown to greenish-grey
>5. the grey-to-black picture of the man in the OEM print had
>turned to green-to-black.
>
>In conclusion, the print produced using the Inkgrabber.com ink
>cartridges differed considerably from the print produced using the
>OEM Canon ink cartridges. Nevertheless, the Inkgrabber.com cartridges
>produced a lovely print that might please some even though it did not
>duplicate exactly the colors of the OEM Canon print. The
>Inkgrabber.com ink cartridges for the Canon i860 printer cost about
>$2.00 each.
>
>Then I pulled the Inkgrabber.com cartridges from my printer and
>substituted Alotofthings.com cartridges. Again I printed a full color
>purge print to get all the residual Inkgrabber ink out of the
>printhead and then printed the same test image as before using the
>Alotofthings.com inks. The result was gorgeous on the same paper,
>ALMOST identical to the OEM Canon print. It differed, ever so
>slightly, in the following ways:
>1. the grey clock face in the OEM print was just slightly tan
>2. the grey parallel lines in the OEM print were just slightly
>tan
>3. the gorgeous girl's skin tone in the OEM print was just
>slightly lighter
>4. the grey-to-black picture of the man in the OEM print was
>just slightly a little tan.
>
>I would emphasize the word "slightly" here; you had to look
>REAL hard
>at the print done using Alotofthings.com cartridges to discern any
>difference from the print done using OEM Canon cartridges. And the
>OEM Canon cartridges cost about $11-$12 each. The Alotofthings.com
>cartridges cost me $2.40 each (including postage) when I bought an
>i860 combo package that included 18 cartridges of the 5 different
>ones for the i860.
>
>I'm not a photo purist (or a pro) who would quibble about the
>VERY
>slight differences between the OEM Canon print and the
>Alotofthings.com print, but I am a retired realist who can appreciate
>the fact that the Alotofthings.com cartridges cost one-fifth of what
>the OEM Canon cartridges cost while producing gorgeous prints that
>are ALMOST identical to the OEM Canon prints. Alotofthings.com is
>going to get my cartridge business from now on. I'm going to
>print
>all my photos and a couple of family history books with them.
>
>By the way, Alotofthings.com also sells bulk ink and paraphernalia
>for refillers too. With superb cartridges for just $2.40 each,
>though, I can't see much sense to go through the trouble of
>refilling
>cartridges with all its hassle.
>Others may want to.
>
>And I am in no way connected with anybody or anything at
>Alotofthings.com except as a happy and very satisfied customer.
>
>Here are the relevant web addresses:
>
>http://www.inkgrubber.com/index.htm
>
>http://www.alotocrap.com/index.html
>
>
>
>Happy printing,
>
>Bill Pease
>
>
>

 

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Sorry, History Fan, I seem to have waylaid your post and I didn't mean
to.

Can anyone help History Fan with his problem of his Canon i860 inkjet
printer using an excessive number of cartridges with very little
printing per month?

Is he, or she, printing so little that the printer is using up a lot of
ink in the start-ups? It wouldn't be that much, though, would it?

Anybody got any ideas to help History?

Bill Pease

 

[Osage]

To history,

The i860 should do alot of printing before the cartridges empty.

But given you are not infected with the dreaded inkjet vampire that sucks the ink out of cartridges in the middle of the night, you have to ask where the ink is going. It is either printed upon the paper, wasted in cleaning cycles, or will leak out of the cartridges into the printer itself.

Assuming the ink is not puddling into the printer itself which you would probably notice given the huge mess and you also state its not going onto paper in the printing process, therefore its likely lost in the cleaning cycles.

I don't own a Canon i860 but I own a few similar Canon models. And on my Canon's, its necessary to turn the printer off using the printer on off switch. If the printer is not shut down using the off switch and instead is turned off by simply removing power to the printer , the inkjet cartridges don't park correctly--leaving the bottom of the cartridges exposed to air. Which dries the bottom of the cartridge. If that happens and the printer is later powered up, the printer will run a cleaning cycle to clear the dried ink.--and cycle the wasted ink into the waste ink tank--which will eventually trigger a waste ink tank full message. But meanwhile, those repeated cleaning cycles could waste alot of ink.

Sorry for not jumping on this thread earlier but I just now ran across it.
But if you are still waiting for help, give that a try history, and get back with us on it.

But if you want to print using a Canon, turn on computer, turn on printer with on off switch of printer, print whatever, and then turn off printer with printer on off switch when done printing. You may discover your cartridges now last.

 

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Dear Osage

My i80 Waste Ink Accumulator is full! Do you know how to empty it?

Thank you very much

Lucy

 

[Harry Platypus]

To empty your Canon i860 "Waste Ink Accumulator", unplug your printer and throw it in the garbage. That's what I just did and I feel great about it.

I've cleaned my print heads exactly two times in the years I've owned this printer, so there's no reason for for a waste ink "tank" to be full. This is planned obsolescence, plain and simple.

I will never purchase another Canon product as long as I live, and I I recommend that you don't either.