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I have a number of old negatives measuring 12½ x 7 centimetre (2¾ x 5 inch)
and dating back to around 1928.
From what I've read so far, it seems my options for scanning these without
losing anything are either
a Canon 9950F or an Epson Perfection 4990.
I currently have a Canon 5000F, which is OK for 35mm slides but is very
slow.
I'd appreciate any advice or opinions as to which way to jump. Thanks in
advance.
 
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"me" <me@myplace.com> wrote in message
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>I have a number of old negatives measuring 12½ x 7 centimetre (2¾ x 5 inch)
> and dating back to around 1928.
> From what I've read so far, it seems my options for scanning these without
> losing anything are either
> a Canon 9950F or an Epson Perfection 4990.
> I currently have a Canon 5000F, which is OK for 35mm slides but is very
> slow.
> I'd appreciate any advice or opinions as to which way to jump. Thanks in
> advance.
>
>

You seem to have some 70mm film.

Is it Black & White or is it Color.

There should be some edge numbers on the film that tell the film type and
frame number.
What is the edge number for the film type.

Maybe you can find the actual type of film here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format

As for scanning the 70mm film your choices are limited to scanners that can
handle up to 4 inch by 5 inch film (101.6mm X 127mm).

I have only experience with an old Acerscan 620ST scanner that will scan 5 x
7 inch transparencies, but it is limited to 600 DPI.

I would think that any of today's 4 x 5 transparency capable scanners will
work fine on that size of film.

A third choice.
There are also Microtek scanners that can scan 4 x 9 inch transparencies.
http://www.microtekusa.com/hb.html

Check out the ScanMaker i700.
http://www.microtekusa.com/smi700.html

You can even get the i700 with a document feeder.
http://www.microtekusa.com/smi700oe.html

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Thanks for the advice.
I think the film size is 620. It is black and white (they didn't have colour
in 1928)
I know it was taken with an old Kodak bellows type camera by my father.
Some of the negs are of the first aircraft to fly from Australia and New
Zealand back in 1928
so I'm keen to scan them myself rather than let them out of my sight at a
photo lab.
Thanks
Noel
(Brisbane, Australia)
"CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> "me" <me@myplace.com> wrote in message
> news:WBI3e.21986$C7.11979@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>I have a number of old negatives measuring 12½ x 7 centimetre (2¾ x 5
>>inch)
>> and dating back to around 1928.
>> From what I've read so far, it seems my options for scanning these
>> without
>> losing anything are either
>> a Canon 9950F or an Epson Perfection 4990.
>> I currently have a Canon 5000F, which is OK for 35mm slides but is very
>> slow.
>> I'd appreciate any advice or opinions as to which way to jump. Thanks in
>> advance.
>>
>>
>
> You seem to have some 70mm film.
>
> Is it Black & White or is it Color.
>
> There should be some edge numbers on the film that tell the film type and
> frame number.
> What is the edge number for the film type.
>
> Maybe you can find the actual type of film here.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format
>
> As for scanning the 70mm film your choices are limited to scanners that
> can handle up to 4 inch by 5 inch film (101.6mm X 127mm).
>
> I have only experience with an old Acerscan 620ST scanner that will scan 5
> x 7 inch transparencies, but it is limited to 600 DPI.
>
> I would think that any of today's 4 x 5 transparency capable scanners will
> work fine on that size of film.
>
> A third choice.
> There are also Microtek scanners that can scan 4 x 9 inch transparencies.
> http://www.microtekusa.com/hb.html
>
> Check out the ScanMaker i700.
> http://www.microtekusa.com/smi700.html
>
> You can even get the i700 with a document feeder.
> http://www.microtekusa.com/smi700oe.html
>
> --
> CSM1
> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> --
>
>
>
>
 
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"me" <me@myplace.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the advice.
> I think the film size is 620. It is black and white (they didn't have
colour
> in 1928)
> I know it was taken with an old Kodak bellows type camera by my father.
> Some of the negs are of the first aircraft to fly from Australia and New
> Zealand back in 1928
> so I'm keen to scan them myself rather than let them out of my sight at a
> photo lab.

620 film is the same size as 120 film, it has frame sizes of 1 5/8 X 2.25
inches for 16 exposure rolls or 2.25 x 2.25 inches for 12 exposure rolls or
2.25 x 3.25 inches for 8 exposure rolls.

All frames sizes are the same as 120 roll film. 120 or 620 film measures
61.21 mm wide (the base) or 2.410 inches wide. Measured with a digital
caliper.

If your film measures 70 mm or 7.0 cm wide then it is 70 mm film. The width
is the width of the film base, not just the image area. 70 mm converts to
about 2.76 inches.

Go to the film encyclopedia at the link I gave you and look up Film size.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format

620 film was not available until 1931.

None of this is important, to scan film, all you need is a transparency
light lid with enough width and length to scan one whole frame of film at
high enough resolution to print whatever size print you want at around 300
DPI.

For 120 film (2.25x2.25 inch image) that is about 1334 DPI. That will give a
3000 pixel by 3000 pixel image size which when printed at 300 dpi will make
a 10 x 10 inch print.

For 70 mm film 1334 DPI is more that enough because the image frame is
larger than 120 or 620 film.

All that leads up to, is a 2400 DPI scanner will work great for your film
size. Any more scanner is just gravy. (Slang. a. Money, profit, or benefit
easily or illicitly gained.)

One more scanner that will do the job.
http://www.microtekusa.com/sm6100pro.html

--
CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
--


> Thanks
> Noel
> (Brisbane, Australia)
> "CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZIS3e.1205$gF5.261@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> > "me" <me@myplace.com> wrote in message
> > news:WBI3e.21986$C7.11979@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >>I have a number of old negatives measuring 12½ x 7 centimetre (2¾ x 5
> >>inch)
> >> and dating back to around 1928.
> >> From what I've read so far, it seems my options for scanning these
> >> without
> >> losing anything are either
> >> a Canon 9950F or an Epson Perfection 4990.
> >> I currently have a Canon 5000F, which is OK for 35mm slides but is very
> >> slow.
> >> I'd appreciate any advice or opinions as to which way to jump. Thanks
in
> >> advance.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > You seem to have some 70mm film.
> >
> > Is it Black & White or is it Color.
> >
> > There should be some edge numbers on the film that tell the film type
and
> > frame number.
> > What is the edge number for the film type.
> >
> > Maybe you can find the actual type of film here.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format
> >
> > As for scanning the 70mm film your choices are limited to scanners that
> > can handle up to 4 inch by 5 inch film (101.6mm X 127mm).
> >
> > I have only experience with an old Acerscan 620ST scanner that will scan
5
> > x 7 inch transparencies, but it is limited to 600 DPI.
> >
> > I would think that any of today's 4 x 5 transparency capable scanners
will
> > work fine on that size of film.
> >
> > A third choice.
> > There are also Microtek scanners that can scan 4 x 9 inch
transparencies.
> > http://www.microtekusa.com/hb.html
> >
> > Check out the ScanMaker i700.
> > http://www.microtekusa.com/smi700.html
> >
> > You can even get the i700 with a document feeder.
> > http://www.microtekusa.com/smi700oe.html
> >
> > --
> > CSM1
> > http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
 
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:26:36 GMT in alt.comp.periphs.scanner, "CSM1"
<nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote:

>"me" <me@myplace.com> wrote in message
>news:Y%Y3e.22971$C7.7554@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Thanks for the advice.
>> I think the film size is 620. It is black and white (they didn't have
>colour
>> in 1928)
>> I know it was taken with an old Kodak bellows type camera by my father.
>> Some of the negs are of the first aircraft to fly from Australia and New
>> Zealand back in 1928
>> so I'm keen to scan them myself rather than let them out of my sight at a
>> photo lab.
>
>620 film is the same size as 120 film, it has frame sizes of 1 5/8 X 2.25
>inches for 16 exposure rolls or 2.25 x 2.25 inches for 12 exposure rolls or
>2.25 x 3.25 inches for 8 exposure rolls.
>
>All frames sizes are the same as 120 roll film. 120 or 620 film measures
>61.21 mm wide (the base) or 2.410 inches wide. Measured with a digital
>caliper.
>
>If your film measures 70 mm or 7.0 cm wide then it is 70 mm film. The width
>is the width of the film base, not just the image area. 70 mm converts to
>about 2.76 inches.
>
>Go to the film encyclopedia at the link I gave you and look up Film size.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format
>
>620 film was not available until 1931.

Could it be 130 film (see Wiki) 2-7/8"x4-7/8"?

>None of this is important, to scan film, all you need is a transparency
>light lid with enough width and length to scan one whole frame of film at
>high enough resolution to print whatever size print you want at around 300
>DPI.
>
>For 120 film (2.25x2.25 inch image) that is about 1334 DPI. That will give a
>3000 pixel by 3000 pixel image size which when printed at 300 dpi will make
>a 10 x 10 inch print.
>
>For 70 mm film 1334 DPI is more that enough because the image frame is
>larger than 120 or 620 film.
>
>All that leads up to, is a 2400 DPI scanner will work great for your film
>size. Any more scanner is just gravy. (Slang. a. Money, profit, or benefit
>easily or illicitly gained.)
>
>One more scanner that will do the job.
>http://www.microtekusa.com/sm6100pro.html

If you don't have many negs to scan, could ask at a graphics or DIY
office store if they have a high res scanner they'd let you use and
the cost.

--
Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian[dot]Inglis{at}SystematicSW[dot]ab[dot]ca)
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Many thanks to all for your advice.
I finally settled on the Canon 9950F and am very happy with the results so
far.
Thanks again.
Noel
"Brian Inglis" <Brian.Inglis@SystematicSW.Invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:26:36 GMT in alt.comp.periphs.scanner, "CSM1"
> <nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>"me" <me@myplace.com> wrote in message
>>news:Y%Y3e.22971$C7.7554@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Thanks for the advice.
>>> I think the film size is 620. It is black and white (they didn't have
>>colour
>>> in 1928)
>>> I know it was taken with an old Kodak bellows type camera by my father.
>>> Some of the negs are of the first aircraft to fly from Australia and New
>>> Zealand back in 1928
>>> so I'm keen to scan them myself rather than let them out of my sight at
>>> a
>>> photo lab.
>>
>>620 film is the same size as 120 film, it has frame sizes of 1 5/8 X 2.25
>>inches for 16 exposure rolls or 2.25 x 2.25 inches for 12 exposure rolls
>>or
>>2.25 x 3.25 inches for 8 exposure rolls.
>>
>>All frames sizes are the same as 120 roll film. 120 or 620 film measures
>>61.21 mm wide (the base) or 2.410 inches wide. Measured with a digital
>>caliper.
>>
>>If your film measures 70 mm or 7.0 cm wide then it is 70 mm film. The
>>width
>>is the width of the film base, not just the image area. 70 mm converts to
>>about 2.76 inches.
>>
>>Go to the film encyclopedia at the link I gave you and look up Film size.
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format
>>
>>620 film was not available until 1931.
>
> Could it be 130 film (see Wiki) 2-7/8"x4-7/8"?
>
>>None of this is important, to scan film, all you need is a transparency
>>light lid with enough width and length to scan one whole frame of film at
>>high enough resolution to print whatever size print you want at around 300
>>DPI.
>>
>>For 120 film (2.25x2.25 inch image) that is about 1334 DPI. That will give
>>a
>>3000 pixel by 3000 pixel image size which when printed at 300 dpi will
>>make
>>a 10 x 10 inch print.
>>
>>For 70 mm film 1334 DPI is more that enough because the image frame is
>>larger than 120 or 620 film.
>>
>>All that leads up to, is a 2400 DPI scanner will work great for your film
>>size. Any more scanner is just gravy. (Slang. a. Money, profit, or benefit
>>easily or illicitly gained.)
>>
>>One more scanner that will do the job.
>>http://www.microtekusa.com/sm6100pro.html
>
> If you don't have many negs to scan, could ask at a graphics or DIY
> office store if they have a high res scanner they'd let you use and
> the cost.
>
> --
> Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
>
> Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian[dot]Inglis{at}SystematicSW[dot]ab[dot]ca)
> fake address use address above to reply