[SOLVED] Can't clone from 512 byte size to 4096 byte size

[nate_oc]

Title. Im aware its not possible to clone from 512 to 4096. I tried using macrium reflect but it gives me an error message saying "Incompatible disk selected' and that "the target disk has an incompatible sector size". What do i do now? Both the old (crucial Mx m.2 250gb 2016) and new (Samsung 970 evo plus 500gb m.2) ssd’s are plugged directly into my motherboard. In control panel the crucial is listed at 512 byte size and the Samsung at 4096byte size.

 

[popatim]

Install windows & all from scratch, or exchange the drive for one that isn't a 4k drive.
but i thought the 970 Evo line uses 512e sector sizes so it should work, unless you are using it in an enclosure.

 

[USAFRet]

Cloning from SATA to NVMe can be problematic.
Try the Samsung Data Migration. If it still fails....time to abandon the concept and do a clean install.

 

[Iggyau]

Title. Im aware its not possible to clone from 512 to 4096. I tried using macrium reflect but it gives me an error message saying "Incompatible disk selected' and that "the target disk has an incompatible sector size". What do i do now? Both the old (crucial Mx m.2 250gb 2016) and new (Samsung 970 evo plus 500gb m.2) ssd’s are plugged directly into my motherboard. In control panel the crucial is listed at 512 byte size and the Samsung at 4096byte size.

Just curious what software you are using?

 

[Maxxify]

This was an issue with the Sabrent Rocket when it first came out as it came formatted as 4Kn. Sabrent later released a tool to format 512e or 4Kn and newer drives come as 512e. So, potentially you could format the 970 EVO Plus as 512e. At the time I spoke to representatives from EaseUS and Acronis and they were both trying to get this worked out for their software so it's possible those support it now. For example, EaseUS states that version 10.0 and later support this. There is a rare program or two that (supposedly) could do this even at that time but I have not tried it myself.

 

[all ears]

This was an issue with the Sabrent Rocket when it first came out as it came formatted as 4Kn. Sabrent later released a tool to format 512e or 4Kn and newer drives come as 512e. So, potentially you could format the 970 EVO Plus as 512e. At the time I spoke to representatives from EaseUS and Acronis and they were both trying to get this worked out for their software so it's possible those support it now. For example, EaseUS states that version 10.0 and later support this. There is a rare program or two that (supposedly) could do this even at that time but I have not tried it myself.

This is exactly the situation I'm in. I recently built a new system with the Sabrent Rocket 1TB as a system disk. When I used their utility to analyze the disk, I noticed it was set at 512 byte sectors. I've been using Aomei Backupper, and they tell me they don't support 4K sectors.
Is there any reason to try to convert to 4K? I record and edit video and audio, so sequential throughput is important. Would I see a noticeable difference if I went through the trouble of figuring out how to convert?
Also, saw a product on the web called ReneE that claims to be backup software that supports 4K sectors.

 

[Maxxify]

This is exactly the situation I'm in. I recently built a new system with the Sabrent Rocket 1TB as a system disk. When I used their utility to analyze the disk, I noticed it was set at 512 byte sectors. I've been using Aomei Backupper, and they tell me they don't support 4K sectors.
Is there any reason to try to convert to 4K? I record and edit video and audio, so sequential throughput is important. Would I see a noticeable difference if I went through the trouble of figuring out how to convert?
Also, saw a product on the web called ReneE that claims to be backup software that supports 4K sectors.

It's logical sector size so it maps to the larger 4KiB physical sector size (which on a SSD is likely subpage-sized as pages are 16KiB). Each logical sector has metadata associated with it so 4Kn is more efficient, as you can see here. This is at the file system level before you deal with the SSD's flash translation layer, however obviously as things are designed around 4K (incl. default cluster size) you will get better performance with 4Kn. With a write you'd have a FS RMW (read-modify-write) with 512e which you also can have on the SSD itself (e.g. partial page writes) so there's more overhead. Definitely this is a worthwhile consideration on a server but not so much for consumer use generally. Sequential isn't really an issue either way, also video editing tends to be relatively low bandwidth actually.