Question Can't See some Wired Devices from WiFi Connection

[Witterings]

I'm using 3 x WiiM Pro Streamers .... 2 connected via ethernet and 1 via WiFi for music playback and whilst my iPhone and Android phone can see all 3 devices my Laptop attached to the same mesh WiFi access point as the phones will only see the one WiiM connected to the same access point and not the 2 wired devices so I'm guessing this is a Windows restriction.

Hopefully the link below will take you to dropbox where a diagram of the network's uploaded
A = Router
B =1st Switch
C = Mesh Access Point - Ethernet connected
D = 2nd Switch
E1/2 = The 2 ethernet connected WiiMs
F = 3rd WiiM - WiFi connected to C
I left it out of the picture by mistake but my Laptop connects to C the mesh access point.

The network going the other way
G = 3rd Switch
PC = ethernet connected PC

The PC's the opposite, it can see the 2 wired devices E1/2 but it can't see the wireless streamer F

The other day I took the ethernet cable out of E1 and connected it wirelessly to C to test and my laptop could then see it.

if anyone's got any ideas how to resolve it would be much appreciated 🙂

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zwm0...2638.jpg?rlkey=0sa2mgisv88xdxl72p9jihes0&dl=0

 

[Ralston18]

Update the diagram to directly lable the devices as they are - not letters.

The diagram will be much more understandable.

Include the ISP connection to the modem serving the router (if the modem is a separate device).

Beside each device list it's DHCP or Static IP address.

Make and model information for routers and switches?

On your PC, run "ipconfig /all" (without quotes) via the Command prompt.

Copy and paste the "ipconfig /all" results here.

Primary suspect being an IP address conflict.

 

[Witterings]

Update the diagram to directly lable the devices as they are - not letters.

The diagram will be much more understandable.

You haven't seen a proper example of my writing so I'm not convinved about the "more understandable" 🤣🤣

No worries, I'll get it all together but may not be until later this evening / tomorrow as out straight from work tonight.

 

[Ralston18]

Fair enough.

If you have Excel or some other spreadsheet then use that to create the diagram.

Each device being an enlarged cell(s) with a heavy border and then use underlines or thinner borders to show the connections.

Then type in the the necessary information. Device name in the cell itself and accompanying spec's along side.

Create a "template" set of cells that can be copied and pasted into other locations for each device.

Once created the diagram will be easy to maintain and update.

That said: Hand written works - just take your time and keep the layout and format consistent.

Does not need to be a work of art per se. Just clear and understandable.

 

[bill001g]

This is a rather complex network with lots of parts.

It is not likely a issue on your laptop. I guess it could be depending on how it locates the devices.

So I would first check the AP you call "C". First if this is a router running as a AP i would try to only use the lan ports. Next check the wifi setting and see if there are setting like wireless isolation set.

Next can you use a ping command to ping between devices. If ping works but other things do not something is likely blocking broadcast messages. I do not know how the device you are using function at a low level

 

[Witterings]

Information I have readily available is it's a Nokia ONT XS-2426G-A

https://www.rightfiber.com/hubfs/Digital%20User%20Guides/RightFiber%20User%20Guides/Nokie_ONT_XS-2426G-A_Data_Sheet.pdf

C or the Access Point is a Nokia WiFi Beacon 2 ... Normally you'd plug the wan port of this into the router then plug it in, leave it for about 10 mins and it'd configure itself then move it to wherever you want and it acts as as a wifi extender but the speeds I were getting were really slow ... hence why I wired it, agan form the wan port on it and the speeds instantly increased ... maybe I should be using the Lan Port??? although I thought tha was for if you wanted to plug say a laptop or PC into the beacon?

I've pinged all 3 from my PC including the wireless one the Qobuz App and my Chrome Browser's cast function can't see and the all came back fine.

 

[JohnMGotts]

You might want to check your network discovery options in Windows. I find this very helpful.

How to View Devices on Your Windows Network and What to Do If You Can't - Make Tech Easier

Are you trying to view other devices on the network in Windows 10/11? Learn how to do so and fix any issues you encounter.

www.maketecheasier.com

 

[bill001g]

So like many of these magic boxes they seem to only talk about hooking them up with their systems.

This does not appear to be a actual AP. It seems like it might run in AP mode but it appears to be a router. They seem to hide the manual but you might find a option to run it as a simple AP. It seems it might also run as a wifi repeater.

In general you can make any router into a AP but some of these strange mesh systems it is hard to say how you do it.

 

[Witterings]

So like many of these magic boxes they seem to only talk about hooking them up with their systems.

This does not appear to be a actual AP. It seems like it might run in AP mode but it appears to be a router. They seem to hide the manual but you might find a option to run it as a simple AP. It seems it might also run as a wifi repeater.

In general you can make any router into a AP but some of these strange mesh systems it is hard to say how you do it.

Certainly you can go in and manually configure it if I go and do a factory reset which gives it it's default IP again and the the username / password are on the bottom of the beacon, there's quite a good video on youtube where he runs through some of the functionality.

There's certainly a bridge mode which then switches off DHCP etc. so I'm wondering if this may be the better option, when I've done this in the past with the old router / an access point, I gave the access point a fixed IP but with the beacon I think those areas are disabled ... a lot of functinality for the router was the same but managed to find a superuser login for that which made them live again.

If I do switch it to bridge mode, will the mesh still work walking from one room to the other if I manually set up the SSID's / passwords to be the same ... any idea??

 

[bill001g]

Mesh is all marketing. You have always only had 1 network. The end devices not the network is responsible for switching. Mesh does not change this.
Mesh just makes it a bit easier to configure stuff and do stuff like change the wifi password.

End device "mostly" work to switch. They tend to stay connect to a weaker signal than they should because they do not have a extra radio to scan for the stronger source. Best solution is to reduce the power of the wifi radios so you have less overlap. That will make it easier on the end device to properly switch. It will always cause a small drop most times less than a second or two.
If the device is stubborn you can just stop and restart the wifi and it will connect properly....most the time as long as there is not too many radios for it to choose from.