[SOLVED] Can't seem to locate latest Bios for MS-7788

[canadianjameson]

Hi all,

I'm trying to find the latest bios update for my mother's older desktop because I bought what I was told by a tech savvy friend was the best CPU for the board (https://www.amazon.com/AMD-A10-5800K-3-8Ghz-Processor-AD580KWOHJBOX/dp/B0095VP8D4). I am pretty certain that I need to flash the bios for the board to accept this processor, but I could be wrong. I REALLY can't afford to have problems upgrading this CPU as, well, that means my day ++ gets destroyed trying to fix the damn thing, lol/notLol.

Below is the output from CPU-Z. I tried to use this to find the latest bios but had no luck with the HP site, and when I search online I found this site (https://www.msi-bios.com/msi-bios-number-MS-7788.html) but there seem to be a variety of possible bios' and I can't figure out which one goes to this board. Or even, quite frankly, if this board IS the MS-7788. Sigh. Help?

The two major Q's are:
a) is the processor ACTUALLY going to work in the board?
b) do I need to flash the bios to make that happen?
and c) can someone help me find a direct link to the right bios files? The HP Assistant is worthless, lol.

Thanks so much in advance!


Jay

CPU-Z Binaries CPU-Z version 1.94.0.x64 Processors Number of sockets 1 Number of threads 2 APICs Socket 0 -- Core 0 (ID 0) -- Thread 0 0 -- Core 1 (ID 1) -- Thread 1 1 Timers ACPI timer 3.580 MHz Perf timer 10.000 MHz Sys timer 1.000 KHz Processors Information Socket 1 ID = 0 Number of cores 2 (max 2) Number of threads 2 (max 2) Manufacturer AuthenticAMD Name AMD A6-5400K Codename Trinity Specification AMD A6-5400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics Package Socket FM2 (904) CPUID F.0.1 Extended CPUID 15.10 Core Stepping TN-A1 Technology 32 nm TDP Limit 65.2 Watts Core Speed 1397.2 MHz Multiplier x Bus Speed 14.0 x 99.8 MHz Base frequency (cores) 99.8 MHz Base frequency (ext.) 99.8 MHz Stock frequency 3600 MHz Instructions sets MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, XOP, FMA3, FMA4 Microcode Revision 0x600111F L1 Data cache 2 x 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size L1 Instruction cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size L2 cache 1024 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size Max CPUID level 0000000Dh Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Eh Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 16 KB, 1 thread(s) Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 2 thread(s) Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 1 MB, 2 thread(s) FID/VID Control yes Min FID 7.0x # of P-States 8 P-State FID 0x16 - VID 0x10 - IDD 23 (19.00x - 1.450 V) P-State FID 0x15 - VID 0x12 - IDD 20 (18.50x - 1.438 V) P-State FID 0x14 - VID 0x1E - IDD 18 (18.00x - 1.362 V) P-State FID 0x10 - VID 0x2E - IDD 14 (16.00x - 1.262 V) P-State FID 0xC - VID 0x3C - IDD 11 (14.00x - 1.175 V) P-State FID 0x8 - VID 0x48 - IDD 9 (12.00x - 1.100 V) P-State FID 0x3 - VID 0x58 - IDD 6 (9.50x - 1.000 V) P-State FID 0x10C - VID 0x60 - IDD 5 (7.00x - 0.950 V) PStateReg 0x800001E4-0x00002016 PStateReg 0x800001CB-0x00002415 PStateReg 0x800001B4-0x00003C14 PStateReg 0x8000018E-0x00005C10 PStateReg 0x8000016F-0x0000780C PStateReg 0x80000158-0x00009008 PStateReg 0x8000013D-0x0000B003 PStateReg 0x8000012D-0x0040C04C Package Type 0x2 Model 00 String 1 0x0 String 2 0x0 Page 0x0 Base TDP 0 Watts Boosted P-States 2 Max non-turbo ratio 36.00x Max turbo ratio 38.00x Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0 100 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 110 0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 120 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 130 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 140 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 150 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 160 00000000 00000000 00000800 0074003A 170 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 180 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 190 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1A0 80000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 1B0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1D0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000002 1E0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1F0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1 100 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000001 110 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 120 00000000 00000085 00000000 00000000 130 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 140 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 150 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 160 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 170 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 180 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 190 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1A0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1B0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1D0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1E0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1F0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2 100 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 110 00000104 00000200 0C40A424 0CE00F31 120 007F8D5F 00000000 00000000 00000000 130 7D9FDB5F F96D7F3F 2DEEEE7B F7EE63F7 140 00000001 00000000 00000021 00000000 150 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 160 01F8FFC0 01F8FFC0 00000000 00000000 170 00000000 00000000 00020000 18000400 180 000000AA 00800005 3C000000 00020000 190 03010000 9F59888E 8D0F812F 000000A1 1A0 001F02A0 00000000 80320000 00000000 1B0 0FC39001 4C0F7D05 00000000 00000000 1C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1D0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1E0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1F0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3 100 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 110 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 120 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 130 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 140 00A11555 00000077 0000052A 00000000 150 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 160 C0000000 00000000 C0000000 00000000 170 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000004 180 017003E0 00000000 08000010 00000000 190 00000000 00000000 04000000 00000000 1A0 000341C2 00000000 00000000 00000000 1B0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100 1D0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1E0 00000000 80001385 00000000 00000000 1F0 00080000 00000000 00000000 050E074F Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 4 100 00000000 00000000 00000000 007B0036 110 000C2002 00000000 0006000A 00000000 120 00000000 00000000 001C0280 00000000 130 00000006 00000000 00000000 00000001 140 082D07E5 00029149 1F96CCF8 0003C59A 150 47470847 36363636 0000007B 00000089 160 00610F21 00000000 00000000 00000036 170 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 180 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 190 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1A0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1B0 00000000 00000000 000000C5 00000000 1C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1D0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1E0 0BC82016 0B962415 0B683C14 0B1C5C10 1F0 0ADE780C 0AB09008 0A7AB003 0A5BC04C Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 5 100 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 110 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 120 00000001 00000000 0060DF38 4000002E 130 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 140 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 150 00000000 00000000 0115001C 013F000F 160 2700F819 27010017 20010815 8C457099 170 00000253 000AC05A 00060C04 AE000000 180 00000000 00000000 0000002D 00000000 190 00000000 0000000B 00202020 00000000 1A0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1B0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1D0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1E0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1F0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Temperature 0 4 degC (39 degF) (Package) Temperature 1 53 degC (127 degF) (Cores) Voltage 0 1.42 Volts (Cores) Voltage 1 1.16 Volts (Uncore) Power 00 20.03 W (Cores) Power 01 4.10 W (Uncore) Power 02 24.13 W (Package) Clock Speed 0 1397.17 MHz (Core #0) Clock Speed 1 1397.17 MHz (Core #1) Core 0 max ratio 38.0 (effective 38.0) Core 1 max ratio 38.0 (effective 38.0) Chipset Northbridge AMD K15 IMC rev. 00 Southbridge AMD A75 FCH rev. 2.4 Graphic Interface PCI-Express Memory Type DDR3 Memory Size 16 GBytes Channels Dual Memory Frequency 665.3 MHz (3:20) CAS# latency (CL) 9.0 RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 9 RAS# Precharge (tRP) 10 Cycle Time (tRAS) 24 Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33 Uncore Frequency 1397.2 MHz Memory SPD DIMM # 1 SMBus address 0x50 Memory type DDR3 Module format UDIMM Module Manufacturer(ID) Corsair (7F7F9E00000000000000000000) Size 4096 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz) Part number CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 Manufacturing date Week 53/Year 15 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP no AMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-17-22 @ 457 MHz JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-26 @ 533 MHz JEDEC #3 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz DIMM # 2 SMBus address 0x51 Memory type DDR3 Module format UDIMM Module Manufacturer(ID) Corsair (7F7F9E00000000000000000000) Size 4096 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz) Part number CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 Manufacturing date Week 53/Year 15 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP no AMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-17-22 @ 457 MHz JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-26 @ 533 MHz JEDEC #3 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz DIMM # 3 SMBus address 0x52 Memory type DDR3 Module format UDIMM Module Manufacturer(ID) Corsair (7F7F9E00000000000000000000) Size 4096 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz) Part number CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 Manufacturing date Week 53/Year 15 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP no AMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-17-22 @ 457 MHz JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-26 @ 533 MHz JEDEC #3 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz DIMM # 4 SMBus address 0x53 Memory type DDR3 Module format UDIMM Module Manufacturer(ID) Corsair (7F7F9E00000000000000000000) Size 4096 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz) Part number CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 Manufacturing date Week 53/Year 15 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP no AMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-17-22 @ 457 MHz JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-26 @ 533 MHz JEDEC #3 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz Monitoring Mainboard Model 2AE0 (0x000000E8 - 0x000026E0) LPCIO LPCIO Vendor Fintek LPCIO Model F71808A LPCIO Vendor ID 0x1934 LPCIO Chip ID 0x1001 Hardware Monitors Hardware monitor Fintek F71808 Voltage 0 3.34 Volts [0xD1] (+3.3V) Voltage 7 3.36 Volts [0xD2] (VSB3V) Voltage 8 3.34 Volts [0xD1] (VBAT) Temperature 0 -24 degC (-13 degF) [0xE7] (TMPIN0) Temperature 1 35 degC (95 degF) [0x23] (TMPIN1) Fan 0 885 RPM [0x69F] (FANIN0) Fan 1 1071 RPM [0x579] (FANIN1) Fan PWM 0 20 pc [0x33] (CPU) Fan PWM 1 36 pc [0x5B] (System Fan 1) Fan PWM 2 50 pc [0x7F] (System Fan 2) Fan PWM 3 100 pc [0xFF] (System Fan 3) Hardware monitor Hardware monitor ID=0xFFFFFFFF Hardware monitor D3D Hardware monitor AMD ADL Voltage 0 0.99 Volts [0x3DB] (GPU) Temperature 0 0 degC (30 degF) (GPU) Clock Speed 0 304.00 MHz [0x130] (Graphics) Clock Speed 1 667.00 MHz [0x29B] (Memory) Clock Speed 2 n.a. (Processor) PCI Devices Description Host Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x1410 Revision ID 0x00 Description VGA Controller Location bus 0 (0x00), device 1 (0x01), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1002 Model ID 0x9991 Revision ID 0x00 Description PCI to PCI Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 7 (0x07), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x1417 Revision ID 0x00 Description USB Controller Location bus 0 (0x00), device 16 (0x10), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x7812 Revision ID 0x03 Description USB Controller Location bus 0 (0x00), device 16 (0x10), function 1 (0x01) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x7812 Revision ID 0x03 Description Serial ATA Controller Location bus 0 (0x00), device 17 (0x11), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x7801 Revision ID 0x40 Description USB Controller (OHCI) Location bus 0 (0x00), device 18 (0x12), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x7807 Revision ID 0x11 Description USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI) Location bus 0 (0x00), device 18 (0x12), function 2 (0x02) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x7808 Revision ID 0x11 Description USB Controller (OHCI) Location bus 0 (0x00), device 19 (0x13), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x7807 Revision ID 0x11 Description USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI) Location bus 0 (0x00), device 19 (0x13), function 2 (0x02) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x7808 Revision ID 0x11 Description SMBus Controller Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x780B Revision ID 0x14 Description Multimedia device Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 2 (0x02) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x780D Revision ID 0x01 Description PCI to ISA Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 3 (0x03) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x780E Revision ID 0x11 Description PCI to PCI Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 4 (0x04) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x780F Revision ID 0x40 Description USB Controller (OHCI) Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 5 (0x05) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x7809 Revision ID 0x11 Description PCI to PCI Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 21 (0x15), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x43A0 Revision ID 0x00 Description PCI to PCI Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 21 (0x15), function 1 (0x01) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x43A1 Revision ID 0x00 Description Host Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x1400 Revision ID 0x00 Description Host Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 1 (0x01) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x1401 Revision ID 0x00 Description Host Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 2 (0x02) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x1402 Revision ID 0x00 Description Host Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 3 (0x03) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x1403 Revision ID 0x00 Description Host Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 4 (0x04) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x1404 Revision ID 0x00 Description Host Bridge Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 5 (0x05) Common header Vendor ID 0x1022 Model ID 0x1405 Revision ID 0x00 Description Ethernet Controller Location bus 1 (0x01), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x1969 Model ID 0x1091 Revision ID 0x08 Description Network Controller Location bus 4 (0x04), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00) Common header Vendor ID 0x168C Model ID 0x0034 Revision ID 0x01 DMI SMBIOS Version 2.7 DMI BIOS vendor AMI version 8.14 date 12/18/2012 ROM size 8192 KB DMI System Information manufacturer Hewlett-Packard product p6-2429 version unknown serial MXU30601QZ UUID {F7D210B7-401B-AC3B-610B-C025377F1D1C} SKU H3L58AA#ABL family 103C_53316J G=D DMI Baseboard vendor MSI model 2AE0 revision 1.0 serial unknown DMI System Enclosure manufacturer Hewlett-Packard chassis type Desktop chassis serial unknown DMI Extension Slot designation PCIE x16 type A5 populated no DMI Extension Slot designation PCIE x1 type A5 populated no DMI Extension Slot designation PCIE x1 type A5 populated yes DMI Extension Slot designation PCIE x1 type A5 populated no DMI OEM Strings string[0] FBYTE#2U2V333E3K3N3Q3R4k5W5c6J6S6Z6b7B7K7M7Q7T7W9S9ta3apaqasauaz string[1] .ND;BUILDID#13NA1RR8602#SABL#DABL; string[2] string[3] string[4] string[5] string[6] string[7] string[8] string[9] string[10] string[11] string[12] string[13] string[14] string[15] DMI Physical Memory Array location Motherboard usage System Memory correction None max capacity 32 GB max# of devices 4 DMI Memory Device designation A1_DIMM0 format DIMM type DDR3 total width 64 bits data width 64 bits size 4 GB DMI Memory Device designation A1_DIMM1 format DIMM type DDR3 total width 64 bits data width 64 bits size 4 GB DMI Memory Device designation A1_DIMM2 format DIMM type DDR3 total width 64 bits data width 64 bits size 4 GB DMI Memory Device designation A1_DIMM3 format DIMM type DDR3 total width 64 bits data width 64 bits size 4 GB DMI Processor manufacturer AuthenticAMD model AMD A6-5400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics clock speed 3600.0 MHz FSB speed 100.0 MHz multiplier 36.0x Graphics Number of adapters 1 Graphic APIs API D3D API ATI I/O API ADL SDK Display Adapters Display adapter 0 ID 0x2000000 Name AMD Radeon HD 7540D Board Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard Cores 0 ROP Units 0 Memory size 512 MB PCI device bus 0 (0x0), device 1 (0x1), function 0 (0x0) Vendor ID 0x1002 (0x103C) Model ID 0x9991 (0x2AE0) Revision ID 0x0 Performance Level 0 Core clock 304.0 MHz Memory clock 667.0 MHz Win32_VideoController AdapterRAM = 0x20000000 (536870912) Win32_VideoController DriverVersion = 15.200.1060.0 Win32_VideoController DriverDate = 07/15/2015 Monitor 0 Model SyncMaster (Samsung) ID SAM0590 Serial HVJSA00615 Manufacturing Date Week 42, Year 2009 Size 19.9 inches Max Resolution 1600 x 900 @ 60 Hz Horizontal Freq. Range 30-81 kHz Vertical Freq. Range 56-75 Hz Max Pixel Clock 150 MHz Gamma Factor 2.2 Software Windows Version Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Home 64-bit (Build 18363) DirectX Version 12.0

 

[richiestang_78]

Those BIOS's will not work, those are for the H61 chipset which is an Intel board. finding a BIOS for that old of a board especially an HP one is going to be tricky. The CPU should work (no guarantees) but I would seriously suggest looking on eBay, Facebook Marketplace, etc for a used one, you probably can find one significantly cheaper.

 

[Karadjgne]

What's the model number of that HP pc.

 

[canadianjameson]

Hi all,

The model of the HP PC is P6-2429, and as for the CPU I already have it so now I'm just hoping it works. I hope that with the model # you ca help me make that determination =) From here it would seem to indicate that it would, i'm just not sure if that is after a bios upgrade or with the current bios revision, which from the table above seems to be:

DMI
SMBIOS Version	2.7
DMI BIOS
vendor	AMI
version	8.14
date	12/18/2012
ROM size	8192 KB

Thanks,


Jay

 

[Karadjgne]

Processor upgrade information

Socket type: FM2

Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

Processor

TDP

Trinity Dual-Core A4-5300

65 W

Trinity Dual-Core A6-5400K

65 W

Trinity Quad-Core A8-5500

65 W

Trinity Quad-Core A8-5600K

100 W

Trinity Quad-Core A10-5700

65 W

Trinity Quad-Core A10-5800K

100 W

Directly from your link, CPU Upgrade Path.

 

[canadianjameson]

Directly from your link, CPU Upgrade Path.

Hey - thanks so much; so that answers the question of whether the board can handle the CPU (sorry - i have a complicated reason for needing to double check that Some other help from the same friend has gone wrong and a mobo he picked for me doesn't seem to support the ram he also picked, and the CPU i bought will only work if I flash that board... so I'm a little gunshy right now.

The final Q is whether the info in the link you quoted applies to the current bios the board has (from 2012) or if I need to flash. Sorry for the need to be hand held, but if you can let me know then I'll feel more comfortable diving into my mother's comp to change out the CPU.

Thanks in advance =)


Jay

 

[Karadjgne]

couple things.

Your mobo is an MS-7778 (Jasmine), not a MS-7788 as you keep inserting, that's going to make a massive difference in everything.

The 5800k was supported on the FM2 platform since original bios, so while you do not need to upgrade to get the pc working, later bios revisions also included many bug-fixes, optimizations etc that make the pc run better and stronger and more compatible with more other components like Ram and storage. So that's your call, but it'll function as is.

 

[canadianjameson]

couple things.

Your mobo is an MS-7778 (Jasmine), not a MS-7788 as you keep inserting, that's going to make a massive difference in everything.

The 5800k was supported on the FM2 platform since original bios, so while you do not need to upgrade to get the pc working, later bios revisions also included many bug-fixes, optimizations etc that make the pc run better and stronger and more compatible with more other components like Ram and storage. So that's your call, but it'll function as is.

so 1) I'm so sorry for the typo on the mobo #. bah - thanks for catching it.
2) I can't seem to find any active links that have any bios updates for my board. The closes I came was here but the link seems to be dead (thanks, HP...).

Does anyone know where I can actually get the download link to the most recent Bios? I'm trying to find it myself but I haven't had any luck so far - will keep trying but help is always appreciated.

Sincerely,


Jay

 

[Karadjgne]

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_3045244-1633733-16

There's several ways to get bios updates for HP, but you'll probably need to go through HP to get them using the Assistant. HP isn't very forthcoming on actually posting updates for public use.

 

[canadianjameson]

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_3045244-1633733-16

There's several ways to get bios updates for HP, but you'll probably need to go through HP to get them using the Assistant. HP isn't very forthcoming on actually posting updates for public use.

Ahhh - the assistant... you mean the one that says "Your product is no longer supported by HP" and offers no updates for download. Sigh. Is it even possible to determine which version of the bios is the most current? For all I know I have it... sigh.

Barring that, a final question: the CPU Fan is the standard one that shipped with the comp. It currently has a dual core - do i need to worry about having to upgrade the CPU fan as well? Or should it be good with the original one?

BTW Thanks so much for your help today - it's been much appreciated =)

 

[Karadjgne]

Upgrade the fan. Seriously. You are moving from a 65w? cpu to a 100w cpu. Your original cooler isn't big enough by half.

Those old Intel stock models were pretty bad for noise and allowing higher thermals and the AMD versions were considerably worse. They usually shipped a 105w cooler for a 100w cpu, even the 140w Hyper212 was such a big hit because of its low price, somewhat quiet operation and a good amount of thermal headroom on a stock cpu.

That's where you should be aiming for, the 140w budget class, which is most of the better 120mm fans and the better 92mm. Careful not to go too cheap, remember that you get what you pay for.

Being HP, you'll not have any real case dimensions, so you'll have to do the measuring.

You want to measure from the bare cpu perpendicular, to where the case panel side is. That'll tell you how tall of a cpu cooler will fit inside the case.

Almost all of the budget coolers will work, both AMD and Intel have not changed pinout sizes in years, the sockets may change, but the pins for FM2, FM2+, AM2, AM3, AM3+ etc are all the same. Only AM4 is different.

 

[canadianjameson]

Upgrade the fan. Seriously. You are moving from a 65w? cpu to a 100w cpu. Your original cooler isn't big enough by half.

Those old Intel stock models were pretty bad for noise and allowing higher thermals and the AMD versions were considerably worse. They usually shipped a 105w cooler for a 100w cpu, even the 140w Hyper212 was such a big hit because of its low price, somewhat quiet operation and a good amount of thermal headroom on a stock cpu.

That's where you should be aiming for, the 140w budget class, which is most of the better 120mm fans and the better 92mm. Careful not to go too cheap, remember that you get what you pay for.

Being HP, you'll not have any real case dimensions, so you'll have to do the measuring.

You want to measure from the bare cpu perpendicular, to where the case panel side is. That'll tell you how tall of a cpu cooler will fit inside the case.

Almost all of the budget coolers will work, both AMD and Intel have not changed pinout sizes in years, the sockets may change, but the pins for FM2, FM2+, AM2, AM3, AM3+ etc are all the same. Only AM4 is different.

I am SO glad I asked that question, then. Wow. That would have ended very very poorly,

I'm guessing this is what you had in mind: https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-Contact-Technology/dp/B08KD6SPLW/ref=sr_1_2

Does this qualify as "appropriately budget"?

Thanks,


Jay

 

[Karadjgne]

Yep, definitely budget, and not a terrible cooler. Just be aware that its 160mm tall from floor to tip , and that may or may not physically fit inside your case. 1 mm is not very big, but its enough that if you hit the cooler with the side of the case, you now are squashing the cpu/socket/motherboard. So you Will need to know your cpu coolers limits.

 

[canadianjameson]

Yep, definitely budget, and not a terrible cooler. Just be aware that its 160mm tall from floor to tip , and that may or may not physically fit inside your case. 1 mm is not very big, but its enough that if you hit the cooler with the side of the case, you now are squashing the cpu/socket/motherboard. So you Will need to know your cpu coolers limits.

hmm - according to the info on that link it's 120 mm tall =/ Are you looking at another source? Or is there a section I missed?

I hate to ask to be spoonfed, but is there any chance you could recommend a similar model that would be better sized? I just really don't want to order this and then end up having to return it due to size =/

Thanks in advance.


Jay

 

[Karadjgne]

No no lol. The hyper212 use a 120mm fan, that's mounted to the heatsink for a total of 159.7mm.

For the V2 they must have revamped the heatsink finally, if you follow that link all the way to the bottom you'll see the item description. It's listed there as 6.1" tall, which is 154.94mm. Every other iteration of the hyper212 (there's 5 or 6 over the last 10 years) has used the same heatsink/mount and only changed fans. The hyper212 black got a new mount.

CoolerMaster had beat that dead horse.. Dead.

But it's still, after all these years, decent. There are better and there's most definitely worse in that price range.

But does it fit.

 

[canadianjameson]

But does it fit.

Sigh - sadly, after getting her to measure it the clearance from board to inner edge of the case is only about 145 - 150 mm... sigh.

Any other recommended models that don't make use of that vertical setup the Hyper212 does?

 

[Karadjgne]

Cryorig m9a, (a for amd, i for Intel), beQuiet TF, Scythe Fuma 2, Raijintek Aidos.