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If I enable large system cache and reboot, I am left with a 4-bit
640x480 display that I cannot alter. The ATi CP is also missing its
tabs.

Undoing the large system cache and rebooting results in my normal
display.

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Sorry, OS Win XP SP1, ATi 9800 Pro.

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On 4/30/2004 11:20 AM Dr Teeth brightened our day with:

>Sorry, OS Win XP SP1, ATi 9800 Pro.
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This isn't new to the 4.4s, I had problems with it when I first
installed my Radeon last summer; the large system cache setting and the
catalysts have always been a problem afaik, you're lucky you didn't
completely fuxor your HDD.

Simple solution, don't use large system cache.

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How large?

"Inglo" <ingloogoo@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.xcc> wrote in message
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> On 4/30/2004 11:20 AM Dr Teeth brightened our day with:
>
> >Sorry, OS Win XP SP1, ATi 9800 Pro.
> >
> >
> >
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> This isn't new to the 4.4s, I had problems with it when I first
> installed my Radeon last summer; the large system cache setting and the
> catalysts have always been a problem afaik, you're lucky you didn't
> completely fuxor your HDD.
>
> Simple solution, don't use large system cache.
>
> --
> "Smiles everyone, Smiles!" - Mr. Roarke
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On 4/30/2004 1:45 PM Asestar brightened our day with:

>How large?
>
>
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Its not how large, its changing this registry setting:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\Memory Management]
"LargeSystemCache"=dword:00000000
so that dword:00000001

Or it's changing the Control
Panel>System>Advanced>Performance[Settings]>Advanced>Memory Usage, tick
System Cache rather than Programs.

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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:45:54 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
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>How large?

Bigger than big but smaller than huge!

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"Dr Teeth" <no_email_here_please@tardis.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:45:54 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
> . n o> wrote:
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> >How large?
>
> Bigger than big but smaller than huge!
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> Cheers,
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> Guy
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> ** I may not be perfect, but I'm
> ** English, and that's the next best thing!

Can someone else PLEASE.. tell me how large??? It's not funny man.. :)
 
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"Dr Teeth" <no_email_here_please@tardis.com> wrote in message
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> If I enable large system cache and reboot, I am left with a 4-bit
> 640x480 display that I cannot alter. The ATi CP is also missing its
> tabs.
>
> Undoing the large system cache and rebooting results in my normal
> display.

What's the reason to change this setting? Why choose large system cache vs
large program cache?
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Large system cache is if you want to run that PC as a server. Run program
cache for workstations/PCs.

"Aloke Prasad" <aprasad123@columbus.rr.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Dr Teeth" <no_email_here_please@tardis.com> wrote in message
> news:ao55909i73hqcl1lj6gj0g27c5v7ghn46s@4ax.com...
> > If I enable large system cache and reboot, I am left with a 4-bit
> > 640x480 display that I cannot alter. The ATi CP is also missing its
> > tabs.
> >
> > Undoing the large system cache and rebooting results in my normal
> > display.
>
> What's the reason to change this setting? Why choose large system cache
vs
> large program cache?
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Funny I have it on and I have never a problem.... ?

"Sept1967" <sept1967@highstream.(Erase)net> wrote in message
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> Large system cache is if you want to run that PC as a server. Run program
> cache for workstations/PCs.
>
> "Aloke Prasad" <aprasad123@columbus.rr.invalid> wrote in message
> news:VDAkc.4962$Gq1.1@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
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> > "Dr Teeth" <no_email_here_please@tardis.com> wrote in message
> > news:ao55909i73hqcl1lj6gj0g27c5v7ghn46s@4ax.com...
> > > If I enable large system cache and reboot, I am left with a 4-bit
> > > 640x480 display that I cannot alter. The ATi CP is also missing its
> > > tabs.
> > >
> > > Undoing the large system cache and rebooting results in my normal
> > > display.
> >
> > What's the reason to change this setting? Why choose large system cache
> vs
> > large program cache?
> > --
> > Aloke
> > ----
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On 4/30/2004 5:18 PM RipFlex brightened our day with:

>Funny I have it on and I have never a problem.... ?
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>
>

Depends on how much memory you have, and it just doesn't happen to everyone.

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4217.html

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Well considering I have 2048 Megs of Ram, guess I'm excluded?

"Inglo" <ingloogoo@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.xcc> wrote in message
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> On 4/30/2004 5:18 PM RipFlex brightened our day with:
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> >Funny I have it on and I have never a problem.... ?
> >
> >
> >
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> Depends on how much memory you have, and it just doesn't happen to
everyone.
>
> http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4217.html
>
> --
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In news:ao55909i73hqcl1lj6gj0g27c5v7ghn46s@4ax.com,
Dr Teeth <no_email_here_please@tardis.com> Quoth The Raven:
> If I enable large system cache and reboot, I am left with a 4-bit
> 640x480 display that I cannot alter. The ATi CP is also missing its
> tabs.
>
> Undoing the large system cache and rebooting results in my normal
> display.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Guy
>
> ** I may not be perfect, but I'm
> ** English, and that's the next best thing!


ATI and LSC dont work together at all. turn it off.
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:05:38 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
.. n o> wrote:

>Can someone else PLEASE.. tell me how large??? It's not funny man.. :)

Don't cry! It depends on the number of running services and installed
RAM.

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On Sat, 01 May 2004 04:21:52 GMT, Inglo
<ingloogoo@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.xcc> wrote:

>On 4/30/2004 5:18 PM RipFlex brightened our day with:
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>>Funny I have it on and I have never a problem.... ?
>>
>>
>>
>
>Depends on how much memory you have, and it just doesn't happen to everyone.
>
>http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4217.html

Thanks for the link. Is this an ATi problem or a generic one?

Cheers,

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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:58:57 GMT, Inglo
<ingloogoo@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.xcc> wrote:


>This isn't new to the 4.4s, I had problems with it when I first
>installed my Radeon last summer; the large system cache setting and the
>catalysts have always been a problem afaik, you're lucky you didn't
>completely fuxor your HDD.
>
>Simple solution, don't use large system cache.

Have you guys installed the MS fix for large system cache issues?
 
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I still wonder why people running ATI cards on home and/or gaming systems
feel the need to change this setting to system cache instead of the default
(program cache)...

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"Sept1967" <sept1967@highstream.(Erase)net> wrote in message
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> Large system cache is if you want to run that PC as a server. Run program
> cache for workstations/PCs.
>
> "Aloke Prasad" <aprasad123@columbus.rr.invalid> wrote in message
> news:VDAkc.4962$Gq1.1@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> >
> > "Dr Teeth" <no_email_here_please@tardis.com> wrote in message
> > news:ao55909i73hqcl1lj6gj0g27c5v7ghn46s@4ax.com...
> > > If I enable large system cache and reboot, I am left with a 4-bit
> > > 640x480 display that I cannot alter. The ATi CP is also missing its
> > > tabs.
> > >
> > > Undoing the large system cache and rebooting results in my normal
> > > display.
> >
> > What's the reason to change this setting? Why choose large system cache
> vs
> > large program cache?
> > --
> > Aloke
> > ----
> > to reply by e-mail remove 123 and change invalid to com
> >
> >
>
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> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:58:57 GMT, Inglo
> <ingloogoo@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.xcc> wrote:
>
>
> >This isn't new to the 4.4s, I had problems with it when I first
> >installed my Radeon last summer; the large system cache setting and the
> >catalysts have always been a problem afaik, you're lucky you didn't
> >completely fuxor your HDD.
> >
> >Simple solution, don't use large system cache.
>
> Have you guys installed the MS fix for large system cache issues?

How? Where? Which? When?
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Because they read it on some "tweaking" website, and do it without question.

"Aloke Prasad" <aprasad123@columbus.rr.invalid> wrote in message
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> I still wonder why people running ATI cards on home and/or gaming systems
> feel the need to change this setting to system cache instead of the
default
> (program cache)...
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On Sat, 1 May 2004 22:57:32 +0800, "Bob Smalls" <muahl@nonet.net.cz>
wrote:

>Because they read it on some "tweaking" website, and do it without question.

Not all of us mate! Some of us benchmark before and after.


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On Sat, 01 May 2004 21:42:00 GMT, "Aloke Prasad"
<aprasad123@columbus.rr.invalid> wrote:

>How? Where? Which? When?

Ditto <g>.

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On 5/1/2004 4:02 PM Dr Teeth brightened our day with:

>>Because they read it on some "tweaking" website, and do it without question.
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>Not all of us mate! Some of us benchmark before and after.
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Yeah at some point a long time ago, I tried it, found it helped somehow,
can't really remember, and then just always set up new systems like that
until the Radeon and Catalysts came along.
If the setting hadn't been working fine with my nVidia cards for years
and all my benchmarks hadn't seemed as good as anyone elses, I would
have changed it before getting a Radeon. As soon as I got a Radeon I
changed the setting.
Almost all of the tweak programs or sites where I've seen the Large
System Cache setting listed, pretty much say, "give it a try, see if it
helps your system, no guarantees." Until the Radeons/Catalysts started
having catastrophic(for some?) problems with the setting it wasn't too
big of a deal either way.

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On Sun, 02 May 2004 00:03:37 +0100, Dr Teeth
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>>How? Where? Which? When?
>
>Ditto <g>.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Guy

When you scan for updates at MS there is a patch for large system
cache on large hard dirves causing corruption. Probably won't help
with your problem but just thought I would mention it.
 
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On 5/1/2004 1:59 AM Dr Teeth brightened our day with:

>>Depends on how much memory you have, and it just doesn't happen to everyone.
>>
>>http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4217.html
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>>
>
>Thanks for the link. Is this an ATi problem or a generic one?
>
>
>
It never was a problem with my GeForce3.
Did you try setting the SystemPages registry key to FFFFFFFF?
I'm just wondering if that really works and lets you run with Large
System Cache enabled.

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