cdr 24X for 24x cd burner only?

[haitang]

My friend told me if I buy 24x CDR disc, I can only burn in 24x burner, 16x CDR disc for 16x burner, is that true? He suggested buy 1x to 24x CDR, then I can use any 24x in between burner. I always think as long as my burner x is highter then the disc x, then I can use them. Can someone comform that? Thanks.

 

[Arrow]

As long as the x on the disc is the same as or above the x on your burner, it should work. The number on the disc means that it will work in a burner UP TO that speed.

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[haitang]

Thanks for the reply. That's what I thought too, UP TO my burner speed is OK to use. My problem is I hardly success burn from CD to CD, always failed because of buffer under run, I had to copy the whole cd to harddrive first, from harddrive burn to cd is no problem. No matter I click copy to temp drive or direct, still failed.

My system: winXP pro
CPU: 350mhz PIII
256 ram
TEAC 4x4x32 IDE-CDRW
no name DVD 12X drive
Easy creator 5p, update to 501C

Any suggestion?

 

[wapaaga]

your not goign able to pull that off at 4 x you might be able to do it at one x but not 4

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[lhgpoobaa]

what your describing is highly unlikely to be a media problem.

its more like that the process of on the fly data transfer keeps getting held up due to an inefficient step in the dvd -> cd-rw process.

this unfortunately tends to be the case with older components and having both drives on the same IDE cable.

both my drives are on the same cable, but my system is very fast and my cd burner supports 'justlink' - a type of buffer underrun protection mechanism.

are your drives on the same ide cable?
do u find your CPU usage maxxing out at 100%?
does the DVD drive or cd-burner stop periodically?

one final comment, ive never liked cd cremator as its cauzed lots of problems to others. see if you can get yourself a copy of Nero.

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[Arrow]

I would make sure you close unnecessary programs before burning your CD. From your description of the problem, it seems like your HDD is on one IDE channel and your CDRW and DVDROM are on the other together. Other than slowing the burning speed, you can also try separating the two disc devices onto different IDE channels if you burn from CD to CD often.

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[haitang]

I tried burn it at 2x, still fail, but didn't try at 1x.

Yes, 2 drives are connect into same ide cable.

The burner didn't have burn proof protection.

The dvd drive stop periodically during burning.

I closed all programs during burn, even screen saver.

After collect all suggestions here, I'll sepearate 2 drives in different ide channel first, then borrow my friend's Nero software, and see which way will help.

Is that I can install burn proof pretection software in my system? or it had to been build-in with the burner?

Thanks all you guys for the good suggestions.

 

[lhgpoobaa]

with IDE, ideally two drives on the same cable should share the resource... after all, with ata33 they have a total possible bandwidth of 33mb/sec.

however what your experiences seems to be more prevalent with older devices.

a couple of other things to check...
your using a 40 wire ata33 cable right?
what is the ATA specifications of each drive?
ata, ata33, ata66 etc?

also, make sure that dma and write caching is enabled on all drives. if you somehow find your drives running in non-DMA (PIO) it will give problems such as what your getting.


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[haitang]

I'm using 40 pins cable, both drives are DMA33. I can't check DMA is on or off in winXP, I can't find it in device manager "setting" any more.

I used 32x disc burn at 4x drive with Easy CD Creater 5.0C, 2 drives are separate in different ide channel, result is:
burned 2 data discs, cd to cd, not click on temp drive first. 1 discs failed, buffer under run, another 1 is finished but can't read it afterward, pop up window said unknow format disc. Burn another audio cd, same direct cd to cd, it is ok, I can play it on computer dvd and audio cd player.

Just the data cd still not burn good.

 

[lhgpoobaa]

if i were u i would get rid of easy cd creator to start with...

then just do all your burning from the hard drive. sure its a little slower, but u wont do half as many coasters.

do u EVER get corrupted discs when burning from hard drive?


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[haitang]

If the data disc is a bootable disc, I can't copy it to harddrive first, because it can't copy the boot-secter to harddrive, later it'll become non-bootable, like winxp full version disc, I tried it, it is a non-bootable disc now. I still can use it, but I need install 98se or ME first, then upgrate to xp.

One last hope, like you said change to different software. Thanks.

 

[lhgpoobaa]

well thats just silly... ive done many bootable cd copies perfectly with nero, including my win2k cd...
all i have to do is ensure the source and destination drives are the same, or alternatively that they are different but the "on the fly" box is NOT checked.

put win2k disk in. uncheck on the fly mode, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr copy done, win2k cd spat out, put in blank cd, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz & spit, perfect copy.

get nero. just get it.

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[haitang]

Ok, my friend will copy me a nero tomorrow, I also down load a demo version and try it out tonight. Thanks.

 

[Arrow]

I hope you find it to be a big improvement over Easy CD! Undoubtedly it is to me.

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[haitang]

Yes, Nero WORKs, I tried demo version and it worked perfectly, 2 xp copy, cd to cd, not on the fly, both came out good, buffer is always 98 to 100%, it also showed a bootable sector in medium info.

Test the dvd drive speed, ave. only little more than 7x, (no name dvd player), the Teac recorder speed is 22. some x.

Just waiting for my friend's copy. Thanks you.

 

[lhgpoobaa]

goood to see nero workin for you. congrats.

and yes.. its always advisible to have a read device thats at least 2 times faster than the write device.

course if your burning at 2x or 4x that shouldnt be too hard.

seems your dvd isnt too flash hot...

my pioneer starts at around 16x copying cd's and end up at 40x... sometimes even a little above.

which is fine as my burner only does 12x writes.

no problems. enjoy

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[AMD_Man]

I'm curious. Anyone know where to find 40X CD-Rs? Who makes them?

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[lagger]

mitsui maybe ?? haven't searched yet

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