CDR Problem

[xonic]

I am having problem with my burner. It is a new Verbatim 52x24x52. I am using Nero 5 and updated to the latest version. The problem I have is the burner would pass simulation, complete burning process etc but the resulting disc cannot be read. Both my CD drive and CDRW drive cannot read the resulting disks. If I ask Nero to verifity data after burning, it would say "failed to mount disk" or something at the verifying stage.

I've read about the windows XP bug and installed Q320174_WXP_SP1_x86_ENU.exe but didn't solve the problem. After I installed the win fix, I've only tried disc-at-once, no multisession, finalize CD setting. After half a dozen failed burns and wasted cdr's, I thought I would ask before I try with different burning settings...

Thanks!


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[songoku]

Burn at a really low speed (The lowest speed your burner supports), but some high speed cdrs have problems being burnt slow. Kinda of a double bladed sword. Also use a quality cdr like maxell or that's or sony.

Plus what is your burning configuration. Its it by it's self on the ide channel? If not put it buy its self.

Is this a new problem or an on going issue?

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[phsstpok]

Try some different CDRs. Some discs don't work well with some burners. One thing though, sometimes identical discs are sold under more than one brand name so you need to determine what discs you have now.

Nero comes with a utility Nero CD Speed. In this utility, somewhere, there is the ability to check the true manufacturer of the CDRs. It will also display the dye type. (Important if the manufacturer uses more than one dye type). I think it's in the overburn test (sorry, I have the wrong system running right now and I can't check this). Anyway, try it and tell us what it reports.

Some common manufacturers are CMC Magnetics, Taiyo Yuden, Prodisc, Ritek. These are different than brand names like Imation, Memorex, Fuji Film. TDK is the exception. They manufacturer their own discs.

Only about half of my CDROMs can read CMC Magnetics made discs that I have tried (I tried 3 brands). My writer can read the discs but very slowly (4x) near the end of every disc. Some of the discs even had errors.

I had much better luck with Taiyo Yuden manufactured discs. These work on 100% of my drives with no speed problems or errors.

Fuji Film discs are my preferred brand which in the USA are always Taiyo Yuden manufactured discs.

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[xonic]

Thank you both for suggestions.

I tried burning speed of 32x, 16x, 12x, 8x but didn't make any difference.

Here is a little more detail on the psychial installation. The drive is installed as Slave on 2nd IDE channel; master is my old 16x CD drive. The old 16x cd driver is not DMA capable, hope that's not a problem.

I instelled the same type of burner for my brother's computer and it worked fine with drag-and-drop copy from windows xp. That time, I used the CDR that came with the burner.

The CDR's I am using do have any printed labels. The Nero Info Tool tells me they are from Postech, CD-R, 79 mins that I got from my brother (planning to buy some CDR's myself just haven't got around to do so)

I'll ask my brother to test burn some CDs with this Postech CDRs and see the what happens. I'll report back here if I discover something new.

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[songoku]

replace the ide cable if you have one. Make the burner master and leave it buy it self for this test. Then try to burn a cd.

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[songoku]

also upgrade the firm where on your burner

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[xonic]

I made the CDRW as master, and the only driver on the 2nd IDE channel. CD burning still failed but I got more detailed error message this time (tried 2 times with different CDR's, a non branded and a Memorex).

Here is one of the logs:
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Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 1/29/2003 10:37:36 PM
Nero Version: 5.5.10.42
Recorder: < 52X24X52 CD-RW> Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 5.5.10.42
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: < 52X24X52 CD-RW> Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 5.5.10.42
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD205BA atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 90845D4 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : 52X24X52 CD-RW atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 66060288 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 447MB (458292kB)
Free physical memory: 177MB (182148kB)
Memory in use : 60 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Enabled (1)
Wizard: Off

21.8.2003
CD-ROM (ISO)
7:42:20 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 7589
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : TRUE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : TRUE
Multisession type: : Start multisession
Burning mode : TAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 2 (Max. of 31 chars)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

7:42:20 PM #2 Phase 75 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
JustLink activated

7:42:20 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 115
Reader running

7:42:20 PM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 125
Writer 52X24X52 CD-RW running

7:42:20 PM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 4571
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:42:20 PM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3745
Turn on Track-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

7:42:20 PM #7 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
Setup items (original item values)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original CD pos #0 + 95869 (95869) = #95869/21:18.19
relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:42:20 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 225
Last possible write address on media: 359848 (79:59.73)
Last address to be written: 95868 (21:20.18)

7:42:20 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 230
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

7:42:20 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1700
Recorder: 52X24X52 CD-RW;
CDR code: 00 97 26 66; OSJ entry from: CMC Magnetics Corporation
ATIP Data:
Special Info [hex] 1: D0 00 98, 2: 61 1A 42 (LI 97:26.66), 3: 4F 3B 4A (LO 79:59.74)
Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 80 (invalid), 2: 00 00 00 (invalid), 3: 00 00 00 (invalid)

7:42:21 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 824
Prepare recorder 52X24X52 CD-RW for write in TAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN:
TOCTYPE: 0x0 Session Closed, CD not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 307200 196646912

7:42:21 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 852
Removed 2 run-out blocks from end of track 1.

7:42:21 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original CD pos #0 + 95869 (95869) = #95869/21:18.19
relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 95867 blocks [ 52X24X52 CD-RW ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:42:21 PM #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Caching of files started

7:42:21 PM #15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Caching of files completed

7:42:21 PM #16 Phase 32 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Simulation started at 16x (2,400 KB/s)

7:42:21 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
Verifying CD position of item 0 (relocatable, CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:42:21 PM #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18419
Set BUFE: JustLink -> ON , JustSpeed : ON

7:43:50 PM #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
all writers idle, stopping conversion

7:43:58 PM #20 Phase 33 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Simulation completed successfully at 16x (2,400 KB/s)

7:43:58 PM #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Burn process started at 16x (2,400 KB/s)

7:43:58 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
Verifying CD position of item 0 (relocatable, CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:43:59 PM #23 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18419
Set BUFE: JustLink -> ON , JustSpeed : ON

7:44:21 PM #24 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1443
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x02280000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x92 0x00 0x00 0x1F 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x22 0x13 0x0C
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00

7:44:21 PM #25 MMC -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 333
Write error

7:44:22 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
all writers idle, stopping conversion

7:44:22 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 216
conversion idle, stopping reader

7:44:32 PM #28 CDR -201 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 194
Invalid write state

7:44:32 PM #29 TRANSFER -18 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 194
Could not perform EndTrack

7:44:32 PM #30 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 13417
< 52X24X52 CD-RW > start Close Session

7:44:49 PM #31 SCSI -1174 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1239
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x91
Sense Qual: 0x41
CDB Data: 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x91 0x41

7:44:49 PM #32 MMC -1174 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 233
Mechanism Control Task Error

7:44:49 PM #33 TRANSFER -19 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 233
Could not perform Fixation

7:44:49 PM #34 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 242
falling back to disc fixation

7:44:49 PM #35 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 13417
< 52X24X52 CD-RW > start Close Session

7:44:50 PM #36 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
Burn process failed at 16x (2,400 KB/s)

7:44:50 PM #37 Text 0 File Scsicmd.cpp, Line 406
SCSI not using temporary buffers
20 out of 20 temporary buffers allocated


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148), size=86656 bytes, created 8/23/2001 5:00:00 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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8x burning also failed with similiar but not exactly the same error.

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[phsstpok]

You didn't say earlier that you were getting errors.

I thought you were successfully burning but just couldn't read the discs.

Here's some info on Fixation errors with Nero (follow all the links).

<A HREF="http://www.ahead.de/en/helptool/530.htm#o530" target="_new">http://www.ahead.de/en/helptool/530.htm#o530</A>


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