Chalice of the Void

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I'm wondering when dealing with Affinity what does the Chalice counter
the cost in the upper right corner or the reduced cost.
 
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Goatboy <mstrinja@accesscomm.ca> wrote:

> I'm wondering when dealing with Affinity what does the Chalice counter
> the cost in the upper right corner or the reduced cost.

The triggered ability of Chalice of the Void is based on the converted
mana cost. The converted mana cost is based on the mana symbols printed
on the upper right corner of the card. Affinity doesn't touch this.

Chalice of the Void
{X}{X}
Artifact
Chalice of the Void comes into play with X charge counters on it.
Whenever a player plays a spell with converted mana cost equal to the
number of charge counters on Chalice of the Void, counter that spell.

203.1. The mana cost of a card is indicated by mana symbols printed on
its upper right corner. Tokens and lands have a mana cost of {o0}.
Paying an object's mana cost requires matching the color of any colored
mana symbols as well as paying the generic mana cost indicated.

203.3. The converted mana cost of an object is a number equal to the
total amount of mana in its mana cost, regardless of color. Some effects
ask a player to pay mana equal to an object's converted mana cost; this
is a generic mana cost--it may be paid with any combination of colored
and/or colorless mana, regardless of the colors in the object's mana
cost.
Example: A mana cost of {o3}{oU}{oU} translates to a converted mana cost
of 5.

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"Goatboy" <mstrinja@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm wondering when dealing with Affinity what does the Chalice counter
> the cost in the upper right corner or the reduced cost.

the cost in the upper right corner. that's the converted mana cost (well,
the *total* mana is the converted mana cost. Broodstar's CMC is 10, not 8UU.
Myr Enforcer's is 7, no matter what was actually paid for it)

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KB
 
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On 23 Apr 2004 13:43:18 -0700, Goatboy <mstrinja@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
>I'm wondering when dealing with Affinity what does the Chalice counter
>the cost in the upper right corner or the reduced cost.

Chalice looks for the 'converted mana cost'. There's nothing in Magic that
can change that, any more than anything changes the 'mana cost' - the numbers
and symbols in the top right corner.

Affinity, like other cost increasers/reducers, changes _what you pay_ to PAY
the cost. It doesn't change what the cost -is- one bit. So Chalice of the Void
doesn't care at all if a spell has Affinity, any more than it cares whether
a Gloom, Warchief, Leech, Derelor, or Dragonspeaker Shaman is out.

Dave
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