Change from AMD to Intel

Sithian

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Hi all,

How're you all? I've been an AMD fan boy for the last 6-7 years. I feel however now since upgrading from my Phenom 1090T to my FX 8350 I've been waiting for something that just doesn't seem to be coming.

I was hoping that the 8350 was going to change my whole gaming experience, however I seem to be suffering more and more. Not only that but I understand Intel CPUs will deal with my crossfire setup better? How is that?

Anyhow, in a week or two I will be getting the Intel i5 4670K and a ASUS Maximus VI Hero,

Is this a choice? And also will I really see a bigger difference to CPU heavy gaming.

My current rig.

AMD FX 8350 @4gig
Gigabyte UD3 motherboard
8 gig Corsair Vengeance
2 X MSI 6970 Lightning Cards
1 TB Western Digital Caviar Black HDD
850 Watt Corsair TX

Sooooo..... Am I about to be mega impressed?
 
Most(not all) games can use only 2 cores, putting a premium on fast cores.
The cores on the FX-8350 are not fast compared to Intel. The FX is good if you have a many core enabled game.

If cpu capability is the criteria, I think you will do well with a 4670K. Add in a conservative overclock, and it will be about as good as you can do from a gaming cpu point of view.

 
youll see maybe a few fps difference in more cpu intensive games. an 8350 @4ghz isnt that great. a nice overclock will help quite a bit. as far as the crossfire issue i doubt it will make any difference on an intel cpu. have you updated to the new 13.10 beta drivers? seems to have even improved my singe 7970 performance and seems to have helped with xfire quite a bit for others.

 


Thanks so far guys, although is this comment really true? I've seen some benchmarks that have been done and especially on gaming they identified the Intel on CPU heavy games being allot better than 10 FPS more....

The other big thing im interested in is this Crossfire stability with Intel.
 


I did have my old 3.2 gig 1090T OC to 4.2 gig.... I just can't justify buying at the time what was AMDs top end CPU just to have to overclock it straight away.... I may have a play tonight and see what I can push out of her.
 
You won't see any justifiable gains for the money. Might get 10 more fps or so.

Really depends on the games your playing; are you playing lowly-threaded games? If so, try assigning them core 2 and 4 (if the game utilizes two threads). See if performance increases.
 


im pretty sure that memory bandwidth statement is wrong though. 25,600 MB/s 29,866.66 MB/s for the fx

yes the i5 is still a sweet cpu. if only amd could improve their single core performance the gap would be very close.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4670K-vs-AMD-FX-8350


but honestly what is your gpu usage during gaming on both cards?
 


Do you just make up numbers ?? Really do U ?

AMD 21 GB/s http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/amdfx/pages/amdfx-model-number-comparison.aspx

Intel 25.6 http://ark.intel.com/products/75048/

So crunching the numbers the intel has 21.9% higher memory bandwidth, not 90%...

You know people would be much more inclined to take your advice if you werent always proven to be lying through your teeth.
 
Strange you are having CF issues. I used to run 2 6950's flashed and OC'd In my rig with a 6300 at 4.5 Ghz and never noticed any bottleneck or crash issues ( I still have the cards but they are just too hot, loud and hungry lol)
 
Hi all,

Thank you for your answers so far, once again I'd like to point out I'm NOT flaming AMD or bad mouthing them at all, they've done me well for a long time.

I have those results on the GPU load for 2 games I tried.

Battlefield 3

GPU 1 - 55%
GPU 2 - 53%

then they both settled to around 50%

Rift

GPU 1 - 63%
GPU 2 - 60%

They did spike at some points higher, is this normal? After reading the fact I should be getting 99% load I'm wondering if my crossfire is wrong?

Many thanks so far for your comments.
 


Well it took you long enough!

I personally jumped the AMD ship about 3 years ago with no regrets! :)

AMD should give you a reward for your loyalty, that's quite admirable!

The results you'll be seeing cross much more territory than just gaming especially if you are an overclocker so get ready for what you've been waiting on from AMD as you won't be disappointed with your choices!



 


Whats the CPU load. Total, and individual cores?
 


still havent said what driver you are using? have you updated to the new beta 13.10? its supposed to fix issues with crossfire.

50-60 on each card seems really low

i know my 7970 on any game will stay 99% and dip to 95% the lowest and with my oc its about 1.5 x more powerful than your xfire


you need to post what your bios settings. are you still using the turbo mode or is it set manual? the turbo mode sucks made my games play like crap.

as soon as you give a decent overclock and set it to manual its much better



 
hi, i used to have a phenom 1090t just like you, but i moved to a 4670k instead of a top of the line amd since i wanted to try something different, with the same hd7950, all i can tell you is that i really felt the performance increase i was hoping for in all aspects, i dont know how much is the diference between a 8350 and the 4670k, but i have played on a 8320 computer and in mine, and for some reason mine always feels smoother in games (might be just me), and the other pc i played on had an GTX 780 (much powerful gpu than mine), another friend of mine who played on both too, told me he felt the same thing (and i did not tell him anything about my expirience), Im just trying to guide you from my personal experience and from the people i know, since i do not trust online benchmarks.

Hope it helps you in any way!!

forgot to add, my 4670k is stock
 


sometimes its not just about the higher fps, but about the consistency in which they are delivered, because in some areas of the games i tried with my 7950 and the 4670k, and then with the 780 and 8320 (overclocked by the way), the 780 setup was giving 200 fps, while mine was not that high but something felt diferent, more smooth, or if they were no spikes, the jumps between high and low fps were much less with my setup, than with the 780 even though it averaged a lot more