Cheap pc build

[pioneertrini]

I need some help from you guys. I need a cheap system for between £350-£400 Just for internet surfing, youtube, crypto trading nothing heavy. I need an OS and monitor but no mouse, keyboard or optical drive needed. I'm in the UK . Any help will be much appreciated.

 

[vapour]

You can run win 10 without buying until you can afford

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£78.15 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£54.36 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£59.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - AV-GP 500GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman - T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£23.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£53.80 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ - GL2250HM 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £389.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-02 22:21 BST+0100

 

[pioneertrini]

Thanks for your quick reply, what are the disadvantages of running windows 10 without buying it outright and how do I do that or would you need to pm me also will this outperform a laptop at the same £400 price point?

 

[Hellfire13]

Better parts including PSU...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (£70.10 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£59.58 @ Box Limited)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£59.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Zalman - T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£23.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£48.56 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: BenQ - GL2250HM 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £389.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-02 22:25 BST+0100

Should do the things you have listed above. But not crypto mining, only crypto trading. For mining you need a pretty powerful gpu. You can get Windows here... https://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10/

 

[vapour]

Thanks for your quick reply, what are the disadvantages of running windows 10 without buying it outright and how do I do that or would you need to pm me also will this outperform a laptop at the same £400 price point?

Win 10 is link above

Get this if considering laptop:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPad-i5-3320M-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01C6WNEL6/ref=sr_1_22?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1506983446&sr=1-22&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_36%3A-40000%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481781031%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A12319067031

Better specs

 

[Hellfire13]

Thanks for your quick reply, what are the disadvantages of running windows 10 without buying it outright and how do I do that or would you need to pm me also will this outperform a laptop at the same £400 price point?

Win 10 is link above

Get this if considering laptop:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPad-i5-3320M-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01C6WNEL6/ref=sr_1_22?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1506983446&sr=1-22&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_36%3A-40000%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481781031%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A12319067031

Better specs

The cpu is much weaker than the g4600. That cpu has 2 cores not 4... http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4600-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3320M/3894vsm402

 

[vapour]

Thanks for your quick reply, what are the disadvantages of running windows 10 without buying it outright and how do I do that or would you need to pm me also will this outperform a laptop at the same £400 price point?

Win 10 is link above

Get this if considering laptop:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPad-i5-3320M-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01C6WNEL6/ref=sr_1_22?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1506983446&sr=1-22&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_36%3A-40000%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481781031%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A12319067031

Better specs

The cpu is much weaker than the g4600. That cpu has 2 cores not 4... http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4600-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3320M/3894vsm402

Yes I know, bench mark is not that much diff, but with SSD, speed may be quicker He is not doing any CPU-intensive task

 

[Hellfire13]

Thanks for your quick reply, what are the disadvantages of running windows 10 without buying it outright and how do I do that or would you need to pm me also will this outperform a laptop at the same £400 price point?

Win 10 is link above

Get this if considering laptop:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPad-i5-3320M-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01C6WNEL6/ref=sr_1_22?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1506983446&sr=1-22&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_36%3A-40000%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481781031%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A12319067031

Better specs

The cpu is much weaker than the g4600. That cpu has 2 cores not 4... http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4600-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3320M/3894vsm402

Yes I know, bench mark is not that much diff, but with SSD, speed may be quicker He is not doing any CPU-intensive task

Thats not a good idea mate. You are buying 5yrs old refurbished tech with slower IPC and speed paying more. It will show its age when multitasking. The quadcore speeds are pretty significant here, if not the singlecore.
The SSD price gets hugely negated there.

 

[vapour]

His budget is so tight, I will prefer he adds $100 more and we don't need to build this crap

 

[Hellfire13]

His budget is so tight, I will prefer he adds $100 more and we don't need to build this crap

The 4600 is a dual core with hyper threading, and is a pretty potent cpu with good upgrade path. If he adds a gpu like 1050, he can even start gaming on that pc.at 1080p.

 

[vapour]

His budget is so tight, I will prefer he adds $100 more and we don't need to build this crap

The 4600 is a dual core with hyper threading, and is a pretty potent cpu with good upgrade path. If he adds a gpu like 1050, he can even start gaming on that pc.at 1080p.

Aye Aye, mate. Hope IGPU will be good enough for youtube

 

[Hellfire13]

Yeah it shd play youtube fine...

Max Resolution (HDMI 1.4)‡ 4096x2304@24Hz
Max Resolution (DP)‡ 4096x2304@60Hz
Max Resolution (eDP - Integrated Flat Panel)‡ 4096x2304@60Hz

https://ark.intel.com/products/97453/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4600-3M-Cache-3_60-GHz

 

[pioneertrini]

Thanks for all the help guys, was just about to buy parts but the ram is now over £90 from a seller on amazon. Any suggestions for another? And that free windows works perfectly right?

 

[vapour]

free windows just limit your personalize setting capability, no big deal.

Try this:

https://www.ebuyer.com/736867-crucial-8gb-ddr4-2400-udimm-ct8g4dfd824a

Or

https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/RAM/DDR4/Dual+Channel+2666Mhz+DDR4/Corsair+8GB+DDR4+Vengeance+LPX+2666MHz+Memory+Kit+for+Skylake?productId=64443&utm_source=uk.pcpartpicker.com&utm_medium=referral

last one preferred, only 1 left, better be quick

 

[Hellfire13]

The Windows works as it should without some cosmetic features like personalization and stuff.
For RAM, get one of these...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MSOKFJW/?tag=pcp0f-21
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B019HVND88/?tag=pcp0f-21

 

[pioneertrini]

The one from aria works out £88 and one from amazon is shipping from usa the other amazon one is out of stock. thinking about the one from ebuyer, thats good enough?

 

[Hellfire13]

That is single 8gb stick which you can run single channel. It will work but not the optimal. Your board is dual channel, and you need to run it dual channel for faster speed and redundancy. If that stick fails, you have no backup to boot your pc.
You can get this... https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/RAM/DDR4/Dual+Channel+2133MHz+DDR4/Corsair+Vengeance+LPX+8GB+%282x4GB%29+2133MHz+DDR4+Memory+-+Black?productId=65308&utm_source=uk.pcpartpicker.com&utm_medium=referral

 

[vapour]

Yes, good enough for your purpose

 

[pioneertrini]

Would this be ok http://

 

[vapour]

Would this be ok http://

Yep,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£78.39 @ Kustom PCs)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£54.36 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£70.74 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - AV-GP 500GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman - T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£23.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£53.96 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ - GL2250HM 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £401.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 02:35 BST+0100

 

[pioneertrini]

And what about this case? case

That way I would have gotten all the parts from amazon

 

[Hellfire13]

Would this be ok http://

And what about this case? case

That way I would have gotten all the parts from amazon

The RAM is fine, but the case is not recommended. Go with the case I have listed above, it has better build quality.
Also make sure you get the g4600, as its faster while being cheaper... http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4600-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4560/3894vs3892

 

[vapour]

Not very good. So you want all amazon, here you go:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£78.39 @ Kustom PCs)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£54.36 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£74.93 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - AV-GP 500GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman - ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£25.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£53.96 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ - GL2250HM 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £407.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 02:46 BST+0100

 

[pioneertrini]

Hi guys thanks for all the help. I built the system last night, had a nightmare with the io shield lol had to make the build without it. There was only 4 headers to screw the motherboard in, not sure if I should go back and put a couple additional ones? One problem I'm having is the monitor doesn't seem to be working with HDMI only VGA. I tried hooking my laptop to it with HDMI and again it would only work with VGA. When I press the menu button on the monitor nothing happens so I'm abit lost, any ideas. Also I will pick a solution sorry for the long wait. Thanks again guys

 

[pioneertrini]

Ok just got it working, thanks Hellfire13 and Vapour you guys were alot of help. Is there a cheap GPU about that would allow me to play total war rome 2 and civilization?