News China's chip imports fell by a record 15% due to U.S. sanctions and globally weaker demand

[Admin]

Chip imports to China have fallen for a second year in a row, and this time a record has been set at 15.4%.

China's chip imports fell by a record 15% due to U.S. sanctions and globally weaker demand : Read more

 

[bit_user]

The country is seemingly working on a 5nm process technology, can make consumer-level CPUs and GPUs, and even is moving up to processors like datacenter CPUs and AI-powered GPUs.

IIRC, their domestically-made AI processors are still on a 14 nm-class node, which puts them at a major disadvantage. These chips need to be large, in order to be effective, which should put quite some strain on their multi-patterning-based 5 nm node. As it is, it seems hard enough for them to make phone SoCs on that node. The availability of equipment to refine the node or move beyond it would seem to be quite a hurdle.

So, I wouldn't credit them with sanctions-beating, just yet. We'll have to see how things play out, over the next few years.

 

[Ravestein NL]

IIRC, their domestically-made AI processors are still on a 14 nm-class node, which puts them at a major disadvantage. These chips need to be large, in order to be effective, which should put quite some strain on their multi-patterning-based 5 nm node. As it is, it seems hard enough for them to make phone SoCs on that node. The availability of equipment to refine the node or move beyond it would seem to be quite a hurdle.

So, I wouldn't credit them with sanctions-beating, just yet. We'll have to see how things play out, over the next few years.

And as always (takes some time but still) Chinese chip developers will come with ingenious solutions to make their own CPU's and GPU's much faster on for example 14nm than Intel could ever have done. You are forgetting that people (Chinese) go searching for other solutions if they hit a brick wall. I'm confident that they will find solutions to their problems/needs.

 

[theugly]

You are confusing deflation with disinflation

 

[Colin Ionita]

And as always (takes some time but still) Chinese chip developers will come with ingenious solutions to make their own CPU's and GPU's much faster on for example 14nm than Intel could ever have done. You are forgetting that people (Chinese) go searching for other solutions if they hit a brick wall. I'm confident that they will find solutions to their problems/needs.

Interesting take, would be true if it wasn't just a Chinese engineer shooting them selves in the foot to do get around the problem, which inherently makes an inferior product. Intels 14nm density is still top of the pack, and by a lot, no Chinese CCP magic will change that.