News China's SMIC foundry on track to produce 5nm smartphone chips for Huawei this year: Report

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I can't help but to miss the times when anandtech was about true hardware tests, instead of a handfull of freelance writers which most of the time just cite findings made by others.
 
If their 7nm node has only 33% the good dies of TSMC wafer to wafer, then their 5nm node is going to have a defect rate unheard of in the chip manufacturing world. But that’s about right using DUV to build feature sizes >= 10x smaller than the light wavelength used. The only technique they could use is quad patterning which introduces 3 additional exposures thus compounding defects by 3x. Also, having to produce an additional 3x masks is not cheap.

It’s interesting from a scientific standpoint that SMIC has been able to make 5nm class transistors without EUV, however TSMC, Samsung, Intel, and IBM did the same thing in the beginning stages of 7nm and 5nm R&D as EUV was not available yet, and they were simply trying to produce working transistors to validate their design work and knew it was not economical, so to push this costly and defect ridden process into wide scale production is “Austin Powers: I too like to live dangerously” territory lol.
 

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Anton Shilov, our expert for the chinese anti-sanction rebellion.

I can't help but to miss the times when anandtech was about true hardware tests, instead of a handfull of freelance writers which most of the time just cite findings made by others.

LOL, i think anyone can make a tech or news site blog these days. I think every article I have read here has been 90% copied from another site or a "little better than google english translation of a chinese tech site". The tricky part is to get a good stream of people reading and commenting
 
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