News China's telco companies are gradually shifting to Chinese CPUs — telecom giants switch hundreds of thousands of their servers to homegrown CPU plat...

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China's telco giants are increasing their procurement of G-series servers, which are based on CPUs carrying a Chinese badge yet are based on American and U.K. ISAs or even developed in the U.S.

China's telco companies are gradually shifting to Chinese CPUs — telecom giants switch hundreds of thousands of their servers to homegrown CPU plat... : Read more

 

[ThomasKinsley]

Chinese telecom companies are switching to domestic processors to ensure that they are not left without compute performance they need if the U.S. imposes stricter sanctions against China.

I am more inclined to think it's for national security. Intel keeps getting exploits discovered on their chips and AMD isn't that much better. Exploits for domestic chips can still be found, but they force the other side to spend resources and time that they wouldn't need if existing chips with existing exploits were used.

When it comes to the U.S. government, which is the entity that makes restrictions for China, it reasons its decisions on national security concerns as China could weaponize technologies by building weapons of mass destruction.

Huh? They restrict China from fabbing machines and Nvidia 4090s because of WMDs? I. Don't. Think. That's. How. It. Works.

 

[ezst036]

I am more inclined to think it's for national security. Intel keeps getting exploits discovered on their chips and AMD isn't that much better. Exploits for domestic chips can still be found, but they force the other side to spend resources and time that they wouldn't need if existing chips with existing exploits were used.

China only wants exploits that can lead to spying on its own people. Let's not forget that and the whole Orwellian "Social Credit" system that they've employed against their citizens.

 

[Ken Lek]

China only wants exploits that can lead to spying on its own people. Let's not forget that and the whole Orwellian "Social Credit" system that they've employed against their citizens.

Don't believe what you read in the Western news. I have lived in China for over twenty years, and the situation is very different from what CNN, NYT & WSJ depict.
The Social Credit system is hardly noticeable in China unless you break the law or refuse to pay a debt or fine after a court judgment.

 

[nookoool]

China only wants exploits that can lead to spying on its own people. Let's not forget that and the whole Orwellian "Social Credit" system that they've employed against their citizens.

You haven't realized living in the "free world" that the western government controls the mass media and sponsors all types of anti-<some country> content via "human rights group", "seperatist groups", "think tanks", MIC workers.

According to the snowden leaks 15 years ago, everyone in the west is spied on already as well

 

[nookoool]

China is a big exporter and has to promote "free trade" hence only goverment, edu. critical buisness are getting the stick to move to domestic at this point since they can argue National Security. To be honest, at the moment, the Chinese cpu are still not competitive in value for normal consumers. We might see a change as Huawei has apple cult status and may be able to get people onto their line of HarmonyOS computers in the near future.

 

[abufrejoval]

Don't believe what you read in the Western news. I have lived in China for over twenty years, and the situation is very different from what CNN, NYT & WSJ depict.
The Social Credit system is hardly noticeable in China unless you break the law or refuse to pay a debt or fine after a court judgment.

The social credit system doesn't require exploits. All cloud service providers are simply required to deliver the data to the government via prescibed interfaces, just as are all employers, schools, public institutions, banks etc.

The social credit system also isn't exactly new, it just used to be paper based before. Every citizen had a file that acompanied its life that the citizen itself never got to see. It went from one school to another and to your employer and recorded faithfully your performance relative to the party goals.

What I don't know is if it's even a communist invention, it could have been similar at least for anyone not a truly insignificant peasant during imperial China.

I think the notion behind it is quite simply that 90% of all virtue are functioning social control.

That may seem somewhat alien to Western countries, but when social control fails, society fails, everywhere.