News Chinese data centers refurbing and selling RTX 4090s due to overcapacity — 48GB models sell for up to $5,500

[Admin]

Many Chinese AI data centers are letting go of their RTX 4090D GPUs and putting them on the market for profit.

Chinese data centers refurbing and selling RTX 4090s due to overcapacity — 48GB models sell for up to $5,500 : Read more

 

[Pierce2623]

AI cloud service in China is insanely over saturated with service providers to the point the government is actively starting to let so some die purposely.

 

[Alex/AT]

"One surprising aspect is that AI data centers are doing this despite the uncertainty surrounding AI chip supply"
Well, I presume should the push come to shove, they'll just confiscate them back. It's China.

 

[purposelycryptic]

"One surprising aspect is that AI data centers are doing this despite the uncertainty surrounding AI chip supply"
Well, I presume should the push come to shove, they'll just confiscate them back. It's China.

It's "Chinese data centers", not the Chinese government, and they are selling them off to whomever, who will then do whatever they want with them - they wouldn't have the authority to confiscate anything (even in China, that would simply be theft), and they would also have no idea what was done with them, or how they were used or modified, making them unsuitable for reintegration. And that is assuming the people they sold them to even still have them; a lot of these will likely be bought in bulk, have their cooling modified, and then resold to individual users or smaller businesses at a tidy profit.

 

[Alex/AT]

Forgot to add /s/, sorry.

 

[Someone Human]

Why pray tell does China get 4090 and 5090's with 48/64 GB of vram, and non melty connectors when such things are explicitly banned to be sold by us partners? Why do they get extra tsmc allocations when we are given almost nothing? 😡

 

[psykhon-]

Another poorly written article jumping to conclusions from the start. It makes perfect sense to remove generic GPUs and allocate that space to proper AI ones like the ones Nvidia, AMD (I know there is a embargo) or Huawei. I expect no customer of those datacenters to be willing to pay for generic GPUs when they can rent anywhere else in the world (AFAIK there is no restriction for Chinese customers to rent in, let's say Azure, AWS, GCP, etc)

 

[hannibal]

Why pray tell does China get 4090 and 5090's with 48/64 GB of vram, and non melty connectors when such things are explicitly banned to be sold by us partners? Why do they get extra tsmc allocations when we are given almost nothing? 😡

They pay better!

But maybe Nvidia can reduce makin gaming GPUs because chine does not need them anymore...

 

[theflyingmunky]

It's "Chinese data centers", not the Chinese government, and they are selling them off to whomever, who will then do whatever they want with them - they wouldn't have the authority to confiscate anything (even in China, that would simply be theft), and they would also have no idea what was done with them, or how they were used or modified, making them unsuitable for reintegration. And that is assuming the people they sold them to even still have them; a lot of these will likely be bought in bulk, have their cooling modified, and then resold to individual users or smaller businesses at a tidy profit.

"Even in China."

Yeah, definitely not a racist. /s/

 

[Someone Human]

They pay better!

But maybe Nvidia can reduce makin gaming GPUs because chine does not need them anymore...

So you are saying Nvidia scalps capacity for us 40-5090's for partners in China willing to pay and sell them higher than MSRP? And allows them to do things like install double the ram and put non joke power connectors on. I call BS, I'm willing to bet customers in the west would be willing to pay equivalently high prices for those features and added availability if the option was made available.

 

[hannibal]

So you are saying Nvidia scalps capacity for us 40-5090's for partners in China willing to pay and sell them higher than MSRP? And allows them to do things like install double the ram and put non joke power connectors on. I call BS, I'm willing to bet customers in the west would be willing to pay equivalently high prices for those features and added availability if the option was made available.

Nah they will put us in here pay more!
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