News Chinese DDR4 producers are undercutting South Korean rivals' pricing by 50%

[Admin]

To capture market share, Chinese DRAM makers offer DDR4 memory with a 50% discount.

Chinese DDR4 producers are undercutting South Korean rivals' pricing by 50% : Read more

 

[usertests]

Maybe I'll put 64 GB into my HTPC.

 

[tommo1982]

Plenty DDR4 and SSD's from chinese manufacturers in Poland. I omit those completely searching for parts. There is no such thing as good and cheap.

 

[gg83]

Plenty DDR4 and SSD's from chinese manufacturers in Poland. I omit those completely searching for parts. There is no such thing as good and cheap.

Exactly. Only sucker's will buy these crappy ddr4 chips.

 

[ezst036]

Must be very low quality chips.

 

[Notton]

I see people ragging on cheap Chinese DDR4 and NAND all the time, but anecdotally, they work fine.
The only issue I run into is during pricing. Lexar and Teamgroup SSDs are cheap, but brands like Ediloca, fianxiang, kingspec, etc. don't have any significant pricing advantage in my region.
As for Chinese DDR4, I haven't seen anything to suggest they have higher failure rates compared to other brands/countries. They work fine at JEDEC specs.
But what I do notice is it's extremely difficult to figure out who made it. The chips will have some barely legible number, and it's nearly impossible to find it in a product catalogue, let alone who made it.

 

[pclaughton]

And undercutting quality by 75%.

 

[Sluggotg]

This seems to be the same tactics Japan was using in the 80's. They were selling Memory Chips at a serious loss. Well below the cost of manufacturing them. They drove almost all the US Memory chips manufacturers out of business. The Japanese Government helped with this, (and they did that with other products). Reagan put a massive import tax on their products until they agreed to stop "Chip Dumping". That is why Micron still exists today.

Is China chip dumping or just making chips that inexpensive? Either way, I will stick with all the great chip makers in the Free World.

 

[usertests]

This seems to be the same tactics Japan was using in the 80's. They were selling Memory Chips at a serious loss. Well below the cost of manufacturing them. They drove almost all the US Memory chips manufacturers out of business. The Japanese Government helped with this, (and they did that with other products). Reagan put a massive import tax on their products until they agreed to stop "Chip Dumping". That is why Micron still exists today.

They had higher yields than the Americans.

https://www.asianometry.com/p/the-rise-and-peak-of-japanese-semiconductors

 

[Kondamin]

imagine that, a memory producer not playing along with the cartel bringing memory at lower prices to market.

Now do the same with nand and give me a 8TB TLC drive for $200

 

[zsydeepsky]

just last month, I purchased a 16x2 DDR4 RAM (made by CXMT) as a gift for my brother for $40.
labeled at 3200Mhz, easily set to 3733 Mhz, and runs stable (this is the sweet spot for Zen2/3 processors)
all the comments here about "quality" really delight me.

 

[Steve Nord_]

Plenty DDR4 and SSD's from chinese manufacturers in Poland. I omit those completely searching for parts. There is no such thing as good and cheap.

Chaotic Cheap and Her CCP have entered the chat, noting how much nonvolatilized GDDR you need to test LLMs on your videocard simply to add explainable or dispositive features.

 

[Steve Nord_]

Must be very low quality chips.

You get the test results with it. You can do your own testing if you can forsee line or chip failure. Don't visit the fab and leave the wafer conditioning room door open after quipping 'wrong planet, oops!'

 

[Steve Nord_]

Maybe I'll put 64 GB into my HTPC.

Really, no John Wick quips like 'I will serve (16 MiB custom webpages.) I will cache service. [Serves PS2 ROMz.]' ? No RAM drive SSD snapshot or flipphone or Baby's First K8s nostalgia jokes?

 

[tommo1982]

Chaotic Cheap and Her CCP have entered the chat, noting how much nonvolatilized GDDR you need to test LLMs on your videocard simply to add explainable or dispositive features.

What? Can you explain it more clerly?

 

[H4unter]

-50% the price for +95% failure rate.
Many of us have gone down the alley before, it never works out.

 

[COLGeek]

Since folks can't stay on topic, we'll close this thread.

Thank you to those who stayed on topic.