News Chinese GPU Firm Secures Government Funds to Compete Against Nvidia

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Chinese government funds domestic GPU designer to develop framework that will compete against Nvidia's CUDA.

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[Li Ken-un]

Whoever it is doesn’t matter. Just end Nvidia’s dominance. I still have a workstation GPU that can only be used on bare metal (no virtualization) because they want thousands of dollars more for a subscription.

 

[digitalgriffin]

Good luck with that.

 

[bit_user]

I wonder if they'll use AMD's open source HIP to implement their CUDA compatibility layer.

 

[samopa]

The GPU in question is claimed to feature a "computing architecture compatible with programming models like CUDA/OpenCL,"

Sorry, but I'm bit lost here ... Isn't CUDA is NVidia owned IP ? Can someone make a compatible CUDA thing without NVidia permission ?

 

[bit_user]

The GPU in question is claimed to feature a "computing architecture compatible with programming models like CUDA/OpenCL,"

Sorry, but I'm bit lost here ... Isn't CUDA is NVidia owned IP ? Can someone make a compatible CUDA thing without NVidia permission ?

AMD's HIP is a CUDA clone, but they use different names to avoid copyright or trademark infringement. If they weren't concerned about either of those things, then they could've made their GPUs API-compatible with CUDA.

As for "CUDA/OpenCL", that's sort of a giveaway that they're probably not trying to build GPUs that are binary-compatible with NVidia's, but rather just generically similar GPUs in the same sense as Intel and AMD do.

 

[renz496]

Whoever it is doesn’t matter. Just end Nvidia’s dominance. I still have a workstation GPU that can only be used on bare metal (no virtualization) because they want thousands of dollars more for a subscription.

they will end nvidia dominance in China at best.

The GPU in question is claimed to feature a "computing architecture compatible with programming models like CUDA/OpenCL,"

Sorry, but I'm bit lost here ... Isn't CUDA is NVidia owned IP ? Can someone make a compatible CUDA thing without NVidia permission ?

yes. nvidia allowed that to happen. many hardware maker actually make their hardware to be compatible with nvidia CUDA like Qualcomm.

 

[bit_user]

many hardware maker actually make their hardware to be compatible with nvidia CUDA like Qualcomm.

Source?

A quick web search isn't supporting the claim that Adreno is CUDA-compatible. I've never heard of another vendor's GPUs offering CUDA compatibility.

 

[renz496]

Source?

A quick web search isn't supporting the claim that Adreno is CUDA-compatible. I've never heard of another vendor's GPUs offering CUDA compatibility.

it is something that i found out long time ago. i tried looking into it but can't find it. back then i was surprise about it as well. though i'm not sure if it was snapdragon or other type of chip from qualcomm.

 

[bit_user]

it is something that i found out long time ago. i tried looking into it but can't find it.

Okay, then it's not a thing. If it were true, it would be a big deal. CUDA is a big and evolving SDK. Active and continual CUDA support would be a resource-intensive activity and a company wouldn't underwrite the costs of doing it without making a big deal about it.

Furthermore, with 90%+ of Qualcomm's market being Android phones and Chomebooks, it wouldn't make sense for them to do. Google does not allow Android phones to ship with support for unsanctioned APIs, like CUDA.

I believe you were misinformed.